Confirmed with Link: Bunting to Nashville

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Good luck, Schenn, our coach doesn't believe in crease clearing D-men and you seem to kind of suck anyway.

Won't miss Bunting much - had some good games but also so many games where he handled the puck like this is the first time he had ever held a hockey stick. Shit was bizarre.
 
We moved a shit ass winger for a center.

We basically made a lateral move at defense, yet Schenn has more name recongition.

Not sure what the issue at all is. We went from a 4th to a 5th and acquired a younger, better forward.
I'm good with the trade Novak for Bunting, it's just Schenn I don't get. I hope we flip him and bring in a solid prospect or high pick like a 2nd rounder
 
I would love to hear Dubas explain the point to both moves today.

From Taylor Haase:​

Dubas on Bunting, Desharnais trades, deadline outlook​

Kyle Dubas on Wednesday took questions submitted via email following the trades of Michael Bunting and a 2026 fourth-round pick to the Predators for defenseman Luke Schenn and Tommy Novak, and Vincent Desharnais to the Sharks for a 2028 fifth-round pick.

On the motivation behind the trades: "We looked at the two trades in totality – Desharnais, Bunting and a pick for Novak, Schenn and a pick. The motivation being that Tommy was younger, under team control for an additional season over (Bunting), carried a lower cap charge and is primarily a center – we felt that carried a large amount of value as we move ahead here with our plans. As for Luke, his experience, leadership, toughness, and spirit will be a major benefit to helping the Penguins maintain standards and support our existing core as they help to lead us through this phase in our program’s evolution."

On what they like about Novak: "We like Tommy’s ability to control play, generate scoring chances for himself and others, and produce at even strength. Nashville did a great job with his development over the years and he blossomed into a very solid player for them. He has been on our priority list for a few years now here and we feel his mobility, playmaking and production as a center provides us a great option in the years ahead."

On if they intend on keeping Schenn or flipping him at the deadline or this summer: "We moved Vinny to San Jose in lock step with the Nashville trade because we feel that having Luke’s defensive play, character, leadership, toughness and spirit is something we need here to help push our program through this phase and preserve our culture and standards as we work to return to contention. We believe the way he plays and the way he carries himself each day will be very well received by Penguins fans and the City of Pittsburgh."

On why Bunting did not fit into the future plans here: "I wouldn’t say that that Bunts didn’t fit into our plans. As we know, I’ve got a long relationship with Bunts and think the world of him as a person and player. Last season he came in at a tough time, right when we had pivoted the Penguins from two decades of – rightfully – really going for it every season. His competitiveness and scoring was a key factor in the late season run for us here. After a tough start this season, he showed his usual resilience and rebounded for us. In the end, Bunts was obviously central to Nashville doing this deal and those are the difficult decisions you have to make in this chair. Regardless of personal feelings, we have to always do what’s in the best interest of the Pittsburgh Penguins."

On his view of the market ahead of the deadline: "This is one of the more unique markets that I’ve encountered leading up to the trade deadline. There’s a lot of parity and different strategies that contending teams have deployed, combined with teams that are out of the race being very clear that with the salary cap going up in in 2025-2026 and the two years beyond, that they plan to be aggressive with their acquisitions come July. Overall, I think we are positioned well over the next few days – but especially heading into the summer and beyond – to continue to execute our plan as we have been for the last 12 months and continue to work to return the Penguins back into contention as soon as possible."
 

From Taylor Haase:​

Dubas on Bunting, Desharnais trades, deadline outlook​

Kyle Dubas on Wednesday took questions submitted via email following the trades of Michael Bunting and a 2026 fourth-round pick to the Predators for defenseman Luke Schenn and Tommy Novak, and Vincent Desharnais to the Sharks for a 2028 fifth-round pick.

On the motivation behind the trades: "We looked at the two trades in totality – Desharnais, Bunting and a pick for Novak, Schenn and a pick. The motivation being that Tommy was younger, under team control for an additional season over (Bunting), carried a lower cap charge and is primarily a center – we felt that carried a large amount of value as we move ahead here with our plans. As for Luke, his experience, leadership, toughness, and spirit will be a major benefit to helping the Penguins maintain standards and support our existing core as they help to lead us through this phase in our program’s evolution."

On what they like about Novak: "We like Tommy’s ability to control play, generate scoring chances for himself and others, and produce at even strength. Nashville did a great job with his development over the years and he blossomed into a very solid player for them. He has been on our priority list for a few years now here and we feel his mobility, playmaking and production as a center provides us a great option in the years ahead."

On if they intend on keeping Schenn or flipping him at the deadline or this summer: "We moved Vinny to San Jose in lock step with the Nashville trade because we feel that having Luke’s defensive play, character, leadership, toughness and spirit is something we need here to help push our program through this phase and preserve our culture and standards as we work to return to contention. We believe the way he plays and the way he carries himself each day will be very well received by Penguins fans and the City of Pittsburgh."

On why Bunting did not fit into the future plans here: "I wouldn’t say that that Bunts didn’t fit into our plans. As we know, I’ve got a long relationship with Bunts and think the world of him as a person and player. Last season he came in at a tough time, right when we had pivoted the Penguins from two decades of – rightfully – really going for it every season. His competitiveness and scoring was a key factor in the late season run for us here. After a tough start this season, he showed his usual resilience and rebounded for us. In the end, Bunts was obviously central to Nashville doing this deal and those are the difficult decisions you have to make in this chair. Regardless of personal feelings, we have to always do what’s in the best interest of the Pittsburgh Penguins."

On his view of the market ahead of the deadline: "This is one of the more unique markets that I’ve encountered leading up to the trade deadline. There’s a lot of parity and different strategies that contending teams have deployed, combined with teams that are out of the race being very clear that with the salary cap going up in in 2025-2026 and the two years beyond, that they plan to be aggressive with their acquisitions come July. Overall, I think we are positioned well over the next few days – but especially heading into the summer and beyond – to continue to execute our plan as we have been for the last 12 months and continue to work to return the Penguins back into contention as soon as possible."
So reading that, I'm assuming Schenn isn't going anywhere. Not sure how I feel about that to be honest!
 
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What the hell is dubas' kink with underachieving Nashville players?

Jesus dubas' version of roster building.... It's like a kid who can't walk past a dairy queen without spending 1.99 on a kids cup of vanilla soft serve.

Honestly i don't get the love for Novak. Hes a soft, pass first, center with average foot speed who "can" play wing but doesn't seem to produce much from the wing.

He's basically Jan effing hrdina 2.0

So what, are we going to shift Geno to wing full time and run Geno/novak/Tomasino second line?

It's the only way adding Novak makes sense. He's not an ideal 3rd line center, since he's not physical enough or defensively minded to lead a shut down 3rd line and he's not talented enough to be the man on a more offensive 3rd line. (Not that we have any talent to build an offensive 3rd line)

And he doesn't have the foot speed or the shot to be an effective top six winger...

so yeah he's basically Jan hrdina out there slow playing the puck before passing to past his prime Geno.

Anyone know what kip Miller is up to these days?
 
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Find if very hard to believe Dubas values any toughness. Been pretty clear him and Sully are lock step in not wanting anything to do with it !!
 
We moved a shit ass winger for a center.

We basically made a lateral move at defense, yet Schenn has more name recongition.

Not sure what the issue at all is. We went from a 4th to a 5th and acquired a younger, better forward.
Is Novak better??? He sounds soft..... when not scoring, invisible.... just the way our meathead coach has built throughout the entire organization. I would rather have JP over any of Novak, Glass, Heinen, Accari or lizzard.
 
I don't have a problem with keeping Schenn, it's not like he won't have any value going forward in the next trade deadline and even though it sounds super corny, the idea that you need people to keep a rebuilding environment professional is definitely true. Look at Buffalo for example 1.
 
The fact that KD said he got younger in the Novak for Bunting move but picked up a D that's going to be 36 at the start of next season while trying to get younger here!!

The point is Dubas acquired Novak who has a better chance of return value in a trade than Bunting given his position and Schenn who has a better chance of return value in a trade than Desharnais gives the name value.

Is Novak better??? He sounds soft..... when not scoring, invisible.... just the way our meathead coach has built throughout the entire organization. I would rather have JP over any of Novak, Glass, Heinen, Accari or lizzard.

It’s about acquiring more valuable assets.
 
As for Luke, his experience, leadership, toughness, and spirit will be a major benefit to helping the Penguins maintain standards and support our existing core as they help to lead us through this phase in our program’s evolution."

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I don't have a problem with keeping Schenn, it's not like he won't have any value going forward in the next trade deadline and even though it sounds super corny, the idea that you need people to keep a rebuilding environment professional is definitely true. Look at Buffalo for example 1.
Yeah. I don't really care if they flip him until next year. We can retain a big chunk of his salary and trade him to almost anyone then. Lots of years will want veteran depth at defense without being locked into the term. It should be an easier sell, maybe a better return then too.
 
If Schenn is flipped, it's a nice bit of work from Dubas.

If Schenn stays, maybe he helps mentor the likes of Pickering and helps keep the puck out of the net for 14 minutes a night so that Blomqvist and Murashov aren't under siege for a full 60 minutes.

Novak is better than Bunting, though the Pens will need to develop some guys who can score around the net.

Dubas' real test is what he does with other pieces between now and Friday, and what he does this off-season.

The next 4 months will tell us a lot more about Dubas' plan and execution than even the last 12 months have.
 

From Taylor Haase:​

Dubas on Bunting, Desharnais trades, deadline outlook​

Kyle Dubas on Wednesday took questions submitted via email following the trades of Michael Bunting and a 2026 fourth-round pick to the Predators for defenseman Luke Schenn and Tommy Novak, and Vincent Desharnais to the Sharks for a 2028 fifth-round pick.

On the motivation behind the trades: "We looked at the two trades in totality – Desharnais, Bunting and a pick for Novak, Schenn and a pick. The motivation being that Tommy was younger, under team control for an additional season over (Bunting), carried a lower cap charge and is primarily a center – we felt that carried a large amount of value as we move ahead here with our plans. As for Luke, his experience, leadership, toughness, and spirit will be a major benefit to helping the Penguins maintain standards and support our existing core as they help to lead us through this phase in our program’s evolution."

On what they like about Novak: "We like Tommy’s ability to control play, generate scoring chances for himself and others, and produce at even strength. Nashville did a great job with his development over the years and he blossomed into a very solid player for them. He has been on our priority list for a few years now here and we feel his mobility, playmaking and production as a center provides us a great option in the years ahead."

On if they intend on keeping Schenn or flipping him at the deadline or this summer: "We moved Vinny to San Jose in lock step with the Nashville trade because we feel that having Luke’s defensive play, character, leadership, toughness and spirit is something we need here to help push our program through this phase and preserve our culture and standards as we work to return to contention. We believe the way he plays and the way he carries himself each day will be very well received by Penguins fans and the City of Pittsburgh."

On why Bunting did not fit into the future plans here: "I wouldn’t say that that Bunts didn’t fit into our plans. As we know, I’ve got a long relationship with Bunts and think the world of him as a person and player. Last season he came in at a tough time, right when we had pivoted the Penguins from two decades of – rightfully – really going for it every season. His competitiveness and scoring was a key factor in the late season run for us here. After a tough start this season, he showed his usual resilience and rebounded for us. In the end, Bunts was obviously central to Nashville doing this deal and those are the difficult decisions you have to make in this chair. Regardless of personal feelings, we have to always do what’s in the best interest of the Pittsburgh Penguins."

On his view of the market ahead of the deadline: "This is one of the more unique markets that I’ve encountered leading up to the trade deadline. There’s a lot of parity and different strategies that contending teams have deployed, combined with teams that are out of the race being very clear that with the salary cap going up in in 2025-2026 and the two years beyond, that they plan to be aggressive with their acquisitions come July. Overall, I think we are positioned well over the next few days – but especially heading into the summer and beyond – to continue to execute our plan as we have been for the last 12 months and continue to work to return the Penguins back into contention as soon as possible."
:sarcasm:
 
The point of the trade was to acquire Novak who like Dubas said is signed for longer than Bunting was and who gives the Pens flexibility with his ability to play center. He's also younger than Bunting. Signed at a reasonable cap hit too. Schenn can either be flipped or can just help mentor younger players on the team.

The Penguins aren't tearing it down to the studs. Anyone expecting Dubas to just trade every veteran purely for futures is going to be disappointed.

It's also pretty much impossible to do because any player with term on their contract is going to result in trades where other teams want to send term/salary back. You might get pure futures for a rental, but you probably aren't getting them for someone with term. For players with term if you're going to get futures you're probably also taking salary back.
 

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