Bunting got 5 and a game for elbow to the head of Cernak (suspended 3 games)

GQS

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Cernak never had the puck, therefore Bunting should never have hit him in the first place, much less the head
That's my point. Bunting WASN'T LOOKING TO HIT ANYONE. 5-6 seconds after the faceoff he turned to his left and Cernak turned to his right and it was Cernak who went INTO Bunting and not the reverse. Many people here believe Bunting made an intentional run at Cernak and was even aiming for his head. That's what I disagree with when its Cernak who went into Bunting leaning forward and down.
 

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Many people here believe Bunting made an intentional run at Cernak and was even aiming for his head. That's what I disagree with when its Cernak who went into Bunting leaning forward and down.

I've watched it like 30 times now and it still looks like he lunged at Cernak intentionally against the run of play well away from the puck.
 

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That's my point. Bunting WASN'T LOOKING TO HIT ANYONE. 5-6 seconds after the faceoff he turned to his left and Cernak turned to his right and it was Cernak who went INTO Bunting and not the reverse. Many people here believe Bunting made an intentional run at Cernak and was even aiming for his head. That's what I disagree with when its Cernak who went into Bunting leaning forward and down.
Also, Jack Kennedy drove his head 1000km/h into a bullet that was levitating in mid air, back in ol 63
 

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Again look at the video I posted which shows the entire incident. Which timestamp shows Bunting purposely hitting Cernak? At 1:43:05 you clearly see Cernak TURNING INTO Bunting when he was looking the other way.

Also that's what I said. You stay planted while delivering the hit. Bunting makes contact with Cernak close to upright and then lifts up abit after the contact. His shoulder was tensed upward instinctually to try and absorb the impact as best he can and NOT throwing it out to hit Cernak like many are claiming he did.
Hold on, now you are saying Cernak was turning into Bunting? Before your argument was he was about to deliver a hit to the unsuspecting Bunting? Interesting.
Bunting changed his path towards Cernak that is very clear in any video. How do you explain this? Or was there a grass knoll? Magic Bullet?

I've watched it like 30 times now and it still looks like he lunged at Cernak intentionally against the run of play well away from the puck.
watch once watch it 30 times. Bunting clearly changed his path towards Cernak. His intent was contact with Cernak.
 
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Prettyisland

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An opportunity to gain control of the puck? The puck was along the boards and neither Cernak nor Bunting were skating towards it.
The point was I think he’s an idiot but I don’t think he meant to hit him in the head. I used the term borderline for a reason. If his intent was to hit him square in the face we have a true cheap shot artist/genius. I don’t give that credit. I just think he’s an idiot
 

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I don't think that was necessarily a deliberate shot, as it looks like he was expecting contact and trying to shrug it off. But at the same time, it's very much a major penalty to leap into a guy's head away from the puck. Bunting has to be under control and can't really complain about a major after he does something like this.
 

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I've watched it like 30 times now and it still looks like he lunged at Cernak intentionally against the run of play well away from the puck.
I still attest... Bunting knew Cernak was coming, thought he had him lined up at the shoulder, misjudged that Cernak was a bit behind him, leaned in for the hit and whiffed, the elbow comes up as part of the natural follow through in a hit, catching Cernak in the face. Accidental because Bunting is doing things recklessly... never sure of Cernak's actual position.

The guy is a moron.

Going for an illegal hit recklessly. Ends up far worse.
 

T REX

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Smdh...magic leaps and fighting for the puck.

Also the score was 4-2 at the time...leafs weren't about to "tie it up"

Talk about revisionist history. I mean this is less than 24 hours ago.
 

JianYang

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This is a textbook suspension. Even dops won't screw this up

The only thing bunting has going for him is that he already got 5 and a game.
 

Golden_Jet

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Again look at the video I posted which shows the entire incident. Which timestamp shows Bunting purposely hitting Cernak? At 1:43:05 you clearly see Cernak TURNING INTO Bunting when he was looking the other way.

Also that's what I said. You stay planted while delivering the hit. Bunting makes contact with Cernak close to upright and then lifts up abit after the contact. His shoulder was tensed upward instinctually to try and absorb the impact as best he can and NOT throwing it out to hit Cernak like many are claiming he did.
Lmao, the video you posted disagrees with you, all you hear is Dangle saying is Mike why, Mike you idiot……, and just keeps repeating it.
 
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That's my point. Bunting WASN'T LOOKING TO HIT ANYONE. 5-6 seconds after the faceoff he turned to his left and Cernak turned to his right and it was Cernak who went INTO Bunting and not the reverse. Many people here believe Bunting made an intentional run at Cernak and was even aiming for his head. That's what I disagree with when its Cernak who went into Bunting leaning forward and down.
:laugh::laugh::laugh: oh man the mental gymnastics
 

Leafs87

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This is a textbook suspension. Even dops won't screw this up

The only thing bunting has going for him is that he already got 5 and a game.

He’s also surprisingly got a pretty clean suspension history. He’s always been an agitator but when it comes to crossing the line like this he doesn’t have a bad history.

Regardless, this one was bad and he likely will get a suspension
 

DisgruntledHawkFan

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That's my point. Bunting WASN'T LOOKING TO HIT ANYONE. 5-6 seconds after the faceoff he turned to his left and Cernak turned to his right and it was Cernak who went INTO Bunting and not the reverse. Many people here believe Bunting made an intentional run at Cernak and was even aiming for his head. That's what I disagree with when its Cernak who went into Bunting leaning forward and down.
Bunting left his feet bud. He knew what he was doing.
 

toddkaz

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Bunting left his feet bud. He knew what he was doing.
I watched the replay a few times and don't see him leaving his feet. That being said I am not sure leaving your feet equates to purposely elbowing as people leave their feet and don't elbow.
 

Enga Olly

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Looked unintentional, Bunting was anticipating contact, didn't get any other than Cernak being lower than expected. Its a little reckless but this can happen in a contact sport. I don't see this as suspension worthy at all.

I think there should be less emphasis on intention as opposed to actions and results. There should always be extra penalties for intention but let's get out of trying to read people's minds on what they intended and let's look at the reckless/dangerous behaviour and the results first and foremost.

Like a car accident. Didn't mean to run the red and t-bone that car, but it killed all the passengers. Yeah well you did regardless of your intention
 

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I think it's 1 game because it's the playoffs. Probably 2 in the regular season.
 

Ducer

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Lol charging it was one stride a leaf player always gets a suspension in the playoffs.
 

InTheBox

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That's my point. Bunting WASN'T LOOKING TO HIT ANYONE. 5-6 seconds after the faceoff he turned to his left and Cernak turned to his right and it was Cernak who went INTO Bunting and not the reverse. Many people here believe Bunting made an intentional run at Cernak and was even aiming for his head. That's what I disagree with when its Cernak who went into Bunting leaning forward and down.

So, Cernak should have got the penalty for hitting Bunting's elbow with his head? That sounds about right.
 

DuklaNation

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I think there should be less emphasis on intention as opposed to actions and results. There should always be extra penalties for intention but let's get out of trying to read people's minds on what they intended and let's look at the reckless/dangerous behaviour and the results first and foremost.

Like a car accident. Didn't mean to run the red and t-bone that car, but it killed all the passengers. Yeah well you did regardless of your intention
Your analogy is completely irrelevant. LOL
 

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