Rumor: Buffalo & NYR having conversations about Trocheck today

[toddkaz]

i didn't suggest helenius. im not insisting on helenius. i'm not insisting on anything except "45th and B tier prospect is not in line with historic comps for player"

Glad to see you walked back your Ritchie is Helenius comparison.

 

[noncents]

Glad to see you walked back your Ritchie is Helenius comparison.

what is the buffalo rough equivalent for ritchie 1st 3rd kylington?

 

[Der Jaeger]

player A: 32yo 901gp 295g 279a 574p 47.4% FO 6mm aav expiring

player B: 32yo 868gp 239g 392a 631pts 54.3% FO 5.625 3yrs control


any guesses?

Nelson got traded coming off three consecutive 30+ goal seasons and had 20 in 61 at the time of the trade. The last time he didn’t score over 20 in a full season prior to that was 2017-2018.

That season was the last time Trocheck scored over 30 goals.

So there’s going to be cost difference between a goal scoring center who projected as Colorado’s 2C, and a player who is being brought into a role to help ease in a group of young centers.

 

[noncents]

Nelson got traded coming off three consecutive 30+ goal seasons and had 20 in 61 at the time of the trade. The last time he didn’t score over 20 in a full season prior to that was 2017-2018.

That season was the last time Trocheck scored over 30 goals.

So there’s going to be cost difference between a goal scoring center who projected as Colorado’s 2C, and a player who is being brought into a role to help ease in a group of young centers.

nelson is the better goalscorer, no doubt. trocheck is better at everything else.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I think he would be good add for the Sabres. How is his skating/speed?

I think #20 plus b level futures is a good base. But Sabres have too many forwards as it is, so I don’t know what we’d be sending back

 

[Der Jaeger]

nelson is the better goalscorer, no doubt. trocheck is better at everything else.

No argument. But there will be a difference in trade cost for two players who project into different roles, especially with the difference in what they did over the five years prior to a trade.

Looking at a full career to grade trade cost without looking at recent performance prior to the trade isn’t a good trade comparison.

 

[noncents]

I can assure you that you are literally the only person who thinks that. Aside from maybe Callum Ritchie’s mom.

oh would you look at that.

4/13/26 athletic scott wheeler's top 100 drafted prospect rankings, selections:

22 mrtka
26 ritchie
32 helenius
38 ostlund

 

[AcerComputer]

I wonder if 4th OA for Trocheck gets it done

 

[Veaktore Vitto]

Rumors would be Late 1st , Krebs and a descent prospect

Assuming Buffalo would do the

Guys, there is no world you are getting Ostlund or Kulich. Get a grip.

I agree but would they do Krebs , late 1st and what ok prospect ?

 

[stokes84]

Rumors world be Late 1st , Krebs and a descent prospect

Assuming Buffalo would do the


I agree but would they do Krebs , late 1st and what ok prospect ?

A lot more reasonable.

We know Jarmo is willing to move Mrtka. 20 + Mrtka + Krebs still seems rich to me, but it wouldn’t shock me.

 

[noncents]

A lot more reasonable.

We know Jarmo is willing to move Mrtka. 20 + Mrtka + Krebs still seems rich to me, but it wouldn’t shock me.

drury has stated he's looking for forward with scoring upside, so i don't think this package is a fit even if value is there.

 

[AirGut]

drury has stated he's looking for forward with scoring upside, so i don't think this package is a fit even if value is there.

If Drury is hoping for a forward at #5 like Malhotra or Björck I could see the interest then in Mrtka + the pick where you could take a D too.

 

[SML2]

I wonder if 4th OA for Trocheck gets it done

Buffalo adds.

 

[Big Al 92]

I think he would be good add for the Sabres. How is his skating/speed?

I think #20 plus b level futures is a good base. But Sabres have too many forwards as it is, so I don’t know what we’d be sending back

He's a good skater and has very good stamina, he held up well for the full 60 minutes in tough playoff games

 

[Fly Boy]

He's a good skater and has very good stamina, he held up well for the full 60 minutes in tough playoff games

That was 2 years ago. By the time he makes the playoffs next year (if he makes it), he'll have been 3 years removed at 33. He just isn't a guy a lot of us fans would like unfortunately, especially not at the cost of what's been throw around the last few days. Our GM on the other hand? Who knows.

 

[Beerz]

Rumors would be Late 1st , Krebs and a descent prospect

Assuming Buffalo would do the


I agree but would they do Krebs , late 1st and what ok prospect ?

Probably..but i wouldn't trade the 1st.

Krebs all day tho

 

[The don godfather]

I wonder if 4th OA for Trocheck gets it done

Yes if Jarmo is having Scotch and eggs.

 

[Big Al 92]

That was 2 years ago. By the time he makes the playoffs next year (if he makes it), he'll have been 3 years removed at 33. No thanks.

Someone asked was he a good skater, I said he is.

I've watched every Rangers game from this season, which isn't 2 years ago. His stamina remains strong.

Lastly, I don't know why you're saying no thanks as if we're GMs discussing a trade the poster and I weren't even discussing a trade. The actual GMs are doing that.

So again, someone asked a question, I answered

 

[UnleashRasmus]

I am not a Trochek fan. His stats have average written all over him. He'd improve the center depth, but not a fan. Have no love for Drury. Keep your guys.

 

[noncents]

I am not a Trochek fan. His stats have average written all over him. He'd improve the center depth, but not a fan. Have no love for Drury. Keep your guys.

bro this isn't rangers fans suggesting there's a fit. the rumor is buffalo has interest.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

BUffalo will have to pay the GOLD MEDAL tax if they want Vincenzo

Keep your fools gold.

 

[Gardner McKay]

bro this isn't rangers fans suggesting there's a fit. the rumor is buffalo has interest.

Bingo.

If Trocheck played for the Sharks, Canes, etc. many of these same people would be tripping over themselves to get him.

It is actually quite funny how horribly irrational people are.

It's a legitimate rumor. I'm sorry that people are so unbelievably soft and have lived in an echo chamber for so long that they can't cope with things they don't like.

Maybe he goes to Buffalo. Maybe doesn't. Either way until we see something legitimate that is contrary, it is a real rumor.

 

[Club]

Out to lunch & highly underestimating our young players if Peg & NYR fanbases think we're adding guys to 4OA nonetheless for an aging Goaltender who has a track record of underperforming in the playoffs & a guy nearing the tail end of his career

 

[UnleashRasmus]

again: Buffalo is interested in Trocheck, according to the thread first post.

tbh trocheck schneider for 4 makes sense to me mobile RHD with size and 2C. bang.

No it doesn't at all. Schneiders rights aren't worth anything close to more than a 5th.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Out to lunch & highly underestimating our young players if Peg & NYR fanbases think we're adding guys to 4OA nonetheless for an aging Goaltender who has a track record of underperforming in the playoffs & a guy nearing the tail end of his career

I can promise you, no one actually believes that.