Proposal: Buffalo-Minnesota

[57special]

So Peterka and Rossi have nearly identical salary projections. That seems to mirror what people on HF have been saying.

Byram, too, for that matter.

 

[ctmagic]

I wonder if a 3rd team gets involved with Peterka going to MN, Rossi to said team, and other pieces to Buffalo from a team like Chicago or Pittsburgh .

 

[AKL]

I wonder if a 3rd team gets involved with Peterka going to MN, Rossi to said team, and other pieces to Buffalo from a team like Chicago or Pittsburgh .

I don't think it's this complicated. They want a 2C behind Norris to bump McLeod down, Rossi also has familiarity with Quinn, who they really want to unlock here.

 

[ctmagic]

I don't think it's this complicated. They want a 2C behind Norris to bump McLeod down, Rossi also has familiarity with Quinn, who they really want to unlock here.

My pondering was based off Russo’s comments today confirming our interest in Peterka, but saying he was unsure of Buffalo’s interest in Rossi.

 

[AKL]

My pondering was based off Russo’s comments today confirming our interest in Peterka, but saying he was unsure of Buffalo’s interest in Rossi.

Unsure in the sense that he just doesn't know one way or the other, or unsure in the sense that he's pretty sure they don't have interest?

 

[DJN21]

If Faber is scoring 50+ points, Buffalo is adding significantly to Thompson. Faber’s primary function is defensive ability. Scoring 50+ along with that would make him a top 5 dman in the league. Those are never traded for wingers… Even the 40+ goal scoring kind.

I like Faber alot...enjoy him.

Would be my response to adding significantly to tage in a trade.

 

[ctmagic]

Unsure in the sense that he just doesn't know one way or the other, or unsure in the sense that he's pretty sure they don't have interest?

Just didn’t know

 

[Satanphonehome]

I don't think it's this complicated. They want a 2C behind Norris to bump McLeod down, Rossi also has familiarity with Quinn, who they really want to unlock here.

This is not meant as a knock on Rossi, but I don’t know that he’s a fit.

I get the depth chart argument but when you list the qualities the Sabres need most you come up with things like size, snarl, experience, leadership and defensive acumen.

I don’t think of any of those things when I think of Rossi;

 

[ctmagic]

Despite his size, Rossi does go to the dirty areas, he competes, and he has a 2-way game that I believe will continue to grow. The only steal l pick is size and average NHL speed.

 

[AKL]

This is not meant as a knock on Rossi, but I don’t know that he’s a fit.

I get the depth chart argument but when you list the qualities the Sabres need most you come up with things like size, snarl, experience, leadership and defensive acumen.

I don’t think of any of those things when I think of Rossi;

Everyone needs those most in a 6'2 220lb frame, but those players aren't common. But when it comes to what you're giving up to get him in this hypothetical scenario, Peterka doesn't have those either.

 

[Spurgeon]

Despite his size, Rossi does go to the dirty areas, he competes, and he has a 2-way game that I believe will continue to grow. The only steal l pick is size and average NHL speed.

I’m not sure I completely agree with this. I do think he absolutely plays larger than his size, but there were a noticeable amount of plays where he just looked plain lazy on the backcheck.

Maybe it was whatever ailment he was dealing with, but I’ve seen him not hustle to get back on odd man rushes more times than I’d like. It wouldn’t surprise me if this was one of the issues Hynes has with him. Must’ve picked it up from Vanek.

 

[Satanphonehome]

Everyone needs those most in a 6'2 220lb frame, but those players aren't common. But when it comes to what you're giving up to get him in this hypothetical scenario, Peterka doesn't have those either.

Agreed.

The reason I'd be willing to give up what Peterka has is to get some of the things he doesn't.

Generally speaking, the Sabre forward ranks lean toward scoring goals and rushing the puck and away from killing plays and cycling the corners

They need to correct that balance and Rossi doesn't really do that.

 

[Sota Popinski]

If you want Tuch, open the wallet. From Min it is Rossi, your first, and your best prospect. He is all around a top 10 winger in the NHL. Shorthanded, blocked shots, dawg on the forecheck.

AHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[Djp]

I don't think it's this complicated. They want a 2C behind Norris to bump McLeod down, Rossi also has familiarity with Quinn, who they really want to unlock here.

Buffalo has Kulich who played fine as a rookie playing center. They also have I stlund and Helenius in thr AHL.

A young 2C is not a big need. This is where they might look for a vet C/W with say 2 yrs left on a contract

Everyone needs those most in a 6'2 220lb frame, but those players aren't common. But when it comes to what you're giving up to get him in this hypothetical scenario, Peterka doesn't have those either.

Peterka can get you that in a trade, rossi likely cant.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Peterka for Rossi makes sense. Don't complicate it

 

[Satanphonehome]

Peterka for Rossi makes sense. Don't complicate it

It does not make sense for a Sabres team trying to get bigger, meaner and better defensively.

It is a lateral move where they are probably giving up the better player and definitely giving up the better talent.

And if they really wanted to upgrade the middle at the expense of the wing, they have a smarter move available simply by shifting back Tage.

Nothing wrong at all with a Thompson, Norris, McLeod, Krebs spine.

 

[TageGod]

It does not make sense for a Sabres team trying to get bigger, meaner and better defensively.

It is a lateral move where they are probably giving up the better player and definitely giving up the better talent.

And if they really wanted to upgrade the middle at the expense of the wing, they have a smarter move available simply by shifting back Tage.

Nothing wrong at all with a Thompson, Norris, McLeod, Krebs spine.

? Peterka is one of the worst defensive players to ever grace the ice.

 

[Orvald]

I wonder if a 3rd team gets involved with Peterka going to MN, Rossi to said team, and other pieces to Buffalo from a team like Chicago or Pittsburgh .

Nah, Rossi would be for Peterka straight up

Byram if that is on your mind would prolly go to the likes of Calgary or San Jose.

 

[truthbluth]

As a Sabres fan, I’d do Peterka for Rossi straight up. I think Rossi’s size issues can be mitigated with the right linemates/system. Peterka will be a P/G winger for like the next 7 years. But he just doesn’t play any defense at all. I like him, and am fine not trading him, but if I’m going to pay somebody $7 mil/year, I’d rather have it be on an undersized center than a one-dimensional winger. That’s just a preference though. I think the value in that deal slightly favors Buffalo for the simple reason that centers (regardless of height) are more valuable.

 

[57special]

I’m not sure I completely agree with this. I do think he absolutely plays larger than his size, but there were a noticeable amount of plays where he just looked plain lazy on the backcheck.

Maybe it was whatever ailment he was dealing with, but I’ve seen him not hustle to get back on odd man rushes more times than I’d like. It wouldn’t surprise me if this was one of the issues Hynes has with him. Must’ve picked it up from Vanek.

Was he lazy, or just tired, and maybe a bit beat up? He played the 2nd most minutes among forwards during the regular season, and was a key contributor when Kaprizov , JEE, Hartman, and Zucc were out. It was also his first time ever in the playoffs.

When i think of adjectives to describe Rossi, "lazy" is not one of them. He did look slower and less effective at the end of the season, and less willing to engage physically. I suspect there was an injury. Earlier in the season he was quite willing to engage in puck battles, and go to the front of the net.

 

[Zman5778]

As a Sabres fan, I’d do Peterka for Rossi straight up. I think Rossi’s size issues can be mitigated with the right linemates/system. Peterka will be a P/G winger for like the next 7 years. But he just doesn’t play any defense at all. I like him, and am fine not trading him, but if I’m going to pay somebody $7 mil/year, I’d rather have it be on an undersized center than a one-dimensional winger. That’s just a preference though. I think the value in that deal slightly favors Buffalo for the simple reason that centers (regardless of height) are more valuable.

Rossi/Tuch might be a really, really nice duo for us (if Tuch stays long-term).

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

Nah, Rossi would be for Peterka straight up

Byram if that is on your mind would prolly go to the likes of Calgary or San Jose.

Reported asking from Philly was first round pick. Peterska much more than 1st round pick

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Reported asking from Philly was first round pick. Peterska much more than 1st round pick

The Philly thing was made up and debunked many many times. It's flat out not true

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Eriksson Ek and Brodin for Peterka and Byram

+ something if needed

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Eriksson Ek and Brodin for Peterka and Byram

+ something if needed

In what world do you think wild are going to trade their 1c and stud two way C for a winger? LOl Not happening. Ek isn't getting traded and he's not waiving

wild aren't trading Brodin for Byram. Ek is beyond Untouchable