Bounces R Way
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I could definitely see a deal that makes sense between these two teams but it's not the one in the OP.
Proposal: Buffalo-Calgary
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This is interesting to me, do you view mangiapane and Coleman as better than Backlund or are you just interested in wingers and think Backlund costs to much?
Any of the 3 would be good adds. Mangiapane would pretty much be free at full cap right now. I think we should wait on him for the TDL where we'd get a 2nd. Coleman would be pricey and I'm not sure he'd waive. Backlund I don't think would waive and he likely isn't available.
Any of them could help form a shutdown line in Buffalo. I'm agreed with you that this is the Sabres biggest need.
Zman5778
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Backlund is the captain with 2 years left and I highly, highly doubt he'd waive for Buffalo. He'd make for a great veteran 3C for us, but I just don't see him wanting to move......or Calgary wanting to move him.
Mangiapane and Coleman are just a better fit for what we need and are more likely to waive to come to Buffalo.......and I think Calgary would be more likely to move one of them.
I'd do that deal. We might get a touch more at the TDL, but I think there's more value in that development spot beside Backlund and Coleman than their would be in getting an additional 4th or 5th round pick.
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Backlund would be dynamite for a team looking to contend right now. Is Buffalo there yet? If not, they could just be wasting assets, as Backlund is not getting any younger. Coleman may be the better add, as he likely has a few more years in the tank.
then just either a 3rd or mangi+ dallas 2nd for your 2nd works fine too
Ynnek
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Backlund is 10 games away from 1000 with Calgary and the Captain he is going nowhere. My guess is he stays and passes Iggy in games played.
I think there’s a lot of possibility for a deal here.
As a Sabres fan I’d personally be interested in any of…
Kadri
Backlund
Coleman
Mangiapanne
Weegar
- I believe Backlund would be the one for sure to block a trade to Buffalo.
-Kadri Weegar & Mangiapanne are from Ontario which makes me think they’d be open to a deal closer to home.
-Coleman might be interested in Buffalo as well to be back in the US.
As fir Calgary I believe there’s plenty on Buffalo they’d be interested in.
Jokhiharju
Krebs
Samuelsson
Rosen
Kulich
Savoie
Ostlund
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Those are all pieces I believe each team would be willing to move for the right price and both have what the other is looking for.
As a Sabres fan I’d personally be interested in any of…
Kadri
Backlund
Coleman
Mangiapanne
Weegar
- I believe Backlund would be the one for sure to block a trade to Buffalo.
-Kadri Weegar & Mangiapanne are from Ontario which makes me think they’d be open to a deal closer to home.
-Coleman might be interested in Buffalo as well to be back in the US.
As fir Calgary I believe there’s plenty on Buffalo they’d be interested in.
Jokhiharju
Krebs
Samuelsson
Rosen
Kulich
Savoie
Ostlund
#11OA
Those are all pieces I believe each team would be willing to move for the right price and both have what the other is looking for.
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I’d do that, with a conditional pick to a 2nd rounder if Buffalo makes the playoffs. Easy peasy.
IIRC Mangiapane was a Sabres fan? Could be wrong.
I’d personally rather go for 11th overall but Mangiapane doesn’t get that alone. Are there any “cap dumps” past Skinner? Maybe Clifton so you can go after Pesce? Or even Marino if Jersey picks him up?
Kadri to Buffalo would actually be a good fit I think. Buffalo fans don't see his value mostly, but he'd give them high end 2C offense and a low end shutdown center. He's not Thompson offensively and he's not Backlund defensively, but he's a nice blend of both. He's older, but he's had 2 of the 3 best seasons of his career in the past 3 years. He also plays with bite. A lot of the things Buffalo needs in one player.
So would I. I don't think Buffalo even considers that. I think you're talking a 2nd and 4th for Mangiapane at 50% or a 3rd for him at full hit. Kadri I think you're talking Krebs and Jokiharju. If you want a high end young piece you have to give one up.
Nanuuk
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Calgary is not going full re-build so will not trade all of their veteran leadership.
Of that list I can see Mangiapane being traded. Probably at the TDL.
tsujimoto74
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I’m sure you would. I’d take either of those guys for Skinner, but completely unrealistic trade proposals don’t really help advance the discussion.
I'm curious, what you would consider as an overpay for Brady or Crouse that would pry them loose that you would be willing to pay. I have my doubts that you'd be willing to pay enough.
We'd take Skinner for Huberdeau. Same kind of concept. Mangiapane and Kadri are worth an actual return. Skinner is a pretty bad cap dump. Huberdeau is a generational cap dump.
A realistic trade for Kadri would be something along the line of Krebs and Jokiharju.
Mangiapane will bring us a 2nd plus at the TDL.
I'm as big a fan of Backlund as there is. He was definitely not as good as Coleman last year. It would be hard to make a case for anyone else on who our best forward was.
MarkusKetterer
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A couple of months ago I said I’d do Peterka + a small add for Crouse.
But if the rumours are true that the Sabres are buying out Skinner, then it wouldn’t make sense to do that trade now, as the Sabres would be moving out 52 goals in one summer.
Zman5778
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I'm not saying that he isn't.
All I'm saying is that style and fit-wise........if Buffalo and Calgary are going to make a deal, I prefer Mangiapane and Coleman. Backlund would make for a GREAT 3C here.....I don't think he's available though.
Deen
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Kadri scored 75 points last year on an awful team. Maybe Calgary adds a bit, but it's not lunacy. Cap is not great though.
Nanuuk
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Calgary wasn't that bad. They were in it right up until the TDL or so. Kadri had a very good year playing with two very good rookies.
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