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Value of: BUF trades with NYR/LAK/VAN

Vector said:
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So the Sabres trade the following:
J.J. Peterka- 1st line winger, almost PPG
Bo Byram 1-3 dman- 40 pts. Better than Clarke statistically (better PPG) about to hit his prime within a couple years.
Josh Norris- a top 6 center who has flirted with being PPG. Remnant of the Cozens trade
Jiri Kulich- projects as a 25-35 goal scorer and has made immense progress this year. 20+ goal pace as a TWENTY year old. Remnant of Reinhart trade.
Isak Rosen- fantastic skater and playmaker, PPG in the AHL at 21, just turned 22. Remnant of the Ristolainen trade.
Jack Quinn- projects as a top 6 winger with an excellent shot and above average speed and puck skills. projects as a 60ish pt winger.
Jacob Bernard-Docker/Connor Clifton - redundant D depth

And receive the following:
Alexis Lafreniere/- 40-50 pt winger, draft position means nothing. Never hit 60 pts. Peterka is much better. huge salary for little production
Braden Schneider- a 23 year old with 16 points in 69 games who's a tad overpaid at 2.2 mil
Elias Pettersson - huge salary for little production. now a 50-60 pt player.
Brandt Clarke - 22 year old with just less than a .5 PPG pace as a RH dman
Clarke is the only player I'm interested in but still not as good as a lot of the Sabres guys. I mean Byram is more productive than Clarke already and more in line with the objective of getting older and keeping good players

This has to be a troll-job. in this trade Sabres are literally giving up better players and high upside players for worse players and lower upside players. More expensive players. This is just not well thought-out or maybe everyone thinks they can fleece the Sabres now.
 
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The value on that LA trade is probably fair buuuuut now that LA has wised-up with their lineup it's hard to see a world in which they could move either Clarke OR Spence...zero RHD depth behind them and Doughty isn't getting any younger.
 
Kurrilino said:
There is only one thing to clear out.... Why is L.A. doing this trade?
Doughty falls of a cliff and Clarke will be the 1D

Also the pieces coming in return are borderline insults.
The winger we get in return is scoring less than Clarke
And then we can chose of an undersized defender who couldn't make it in freaking Ottawa or a an aging guy who has no business in professional hockey

What worries me most, is that people call this the closest deal
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26 points on the Sabres is like 50 points on a normal team.
 
kinghock said:
Josh Norris for LA 2025 first, Spence and Moore

or

Kulich for Spence
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Why are we trading the player we just moved out Cozens to acquire for futures?
Washed Up 29YearOld said:
So the Sabres trade the following:
J.J. Peterka- 1st line winger, almost PPG
Bo Byram 1-3 dman- 40 pts. Better than Clarke statistically (better PPG) about to hit his prime within a couple years.
Josh Norris- a top 6 center who has flirted with being PPG. Remnant of the Cozens trade
Jiri Kulich- projects as a 25-35 goal scorer and has made immense progress this year. 20+ goal pace as a TWENTY year old. Remnant of Reinhart trade.
Isak Rosen- fantastic skater and playmaker, PPG in the AHL at 21, just turned 22. Remnant of the Ristolainen trade.
Jack Quinn- projects as a top 6 winger with an excellent shot and above average speed and puck skills. projects as a 60ish pt winger.
Jacob Bernard-Docker/Connor Clifton - redundant D depth

And receive the following:
Alexis Lafreniere/- 40-50 pt winger, draft position means nothing. Never hit 60 pts. Peterka is much better. huge salary for little production
Braden Schneider- a 23 year old with 16 points in 69 games who's a tad overpaid at 2.2 mil
Elias Pettersson - huge salary for little production. now a 50-60 pt player.
Brandt Clarke - 22 year old with just less than a .5 PPG pace as a RH dman
Clarke is the only player I'm interested in but still not as good as a lot of the Sabres guys. I mean Byram is more productive than Clarke already and more in line with the objective of getting older and keeping good players

This has to be a troll-job. in this trade Sabres are literally giving up better players and high upside players for worse players and lower upside players. More expensive players. This is just not well thought-out or maybe everyone thinks they can fleece the Sabres now.
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Buddy, Byram out and Clarke in is a steal. EP has 3 goals and 4 assists in the last 5 games, dude is coming back to form. The NY trade is HOT garbage though. EP trade value isn't crazy off, I think the Sabres just can only move one of Norris or Kulich in the deal.
 
In another era I would suggest Buffalo sends a few packs of decent wings for a couple of potted desert fan palms but most places have good wings now of their own. Solves at least one of Buffalo's problems per their GM... lack of herbaceous monocots.
 
TageGod said:
Why are we trading the player we just moved out Cozens to acquire for futures?

Buddy, Byram out and Clarke in is a steal. EP has 3 goals and 4 assists in the last 5 games, dude is coming back to form. The NY trade is HOT garbage though. EP trade value isn't crazy off, I think the Sabres just can only move one of Norris or Kulich in the deal.
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Buddy, they’re pretty comparable dman just one is much younger. And Bryam is currently better. Should we just trade all our established players for picks and prospects and not make the playoffs til 2035?
 
Washed Up 29YearOld said:
Buddy, they’re pretty comparable dman just one is much younger. And Bryam is currently better. Should we just trade all our established players for picks and prospects and not make the playoffs til 2035?
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Byram is garbage without Dahlin. I don't need to pay him 7m to be carried. Cap savings this year to go get a big free agent or trade upgrade.
 
NYT won't be trading Schneider
that's not a comment about Peterka or Byram or anyone

having already traded both Trouba and Mancini this season, Schnieder is essential RD
 
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is the answer jesus said:
Kulich for Spence? Absolutely not. I don't think Spence is the type of defenseman Buffalo needs other than he's a righty. We really need more of a Matt Roy type. A guy to take some heavy d-zone deployments and not get caved in.
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I don’t understand why Buffalo didn’t go hard after Roy as a UFA last offseason. He is just what’s needed
 
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