Confirmed Trade: [BUF/EDM] Ryan McLeod and Tyler Tullio for Matt Savoie

[ManofSteel55]

That's not it. He's scared of contact.

That can change, though. McLeod still has the makings of a solid NHLer, but he needs to get past that mental block. A trade may be what was needed (kind of like Andrew Cogliano way back when.)

That's an awesome comparable that I just used as well.

Enjoy your small one demential forward that won’t do anything come playoff time.

Which team are you talking to here?

 

[nabob]

No he hangs on to pucks well. Can circle the entire o zone with the puck on his stick. Doesn’t seem to have the brain to figure out what to do next though. And yes he shies away from contact.

Can’t really say I’ve ever seen him do that. Can say that in the playoffs that most of the time when a forward failed to get the puck out or failed to engage with an opponent physically (Game 6 against Van for example) it was McLeod.

It’s easy to cheer for McLeod and want him to do well because he has an amazing smile and can skate like the wind. But really he’s the same perimeter player he was in junior, has all the same holes in his game he had in junior still. Maybe a change of scenery will be the wake up call he needs because being a healthy scratch in the playoffs didn’t do the trick.

 

[crashthenet]

you either think the Buffalo GM is the biggest idiot in the world. Or they know Savoie isn't that great and hasn't lived up to his hype. If he was so good he wouldn't be in the trade.

Why can't it be both?

Gave up a 2nd round pick for Beck Malenstyn. There are half a dozen guys waiting for league min contracts that are better.

If you drafted a player two years ago at 9 and are shipping him for a good bottom sixer on an expiring deal, (you will pay him over 3 million next year by the way), you are a bad GM. On two levels.

 

[MOGlLNY]

If this is how oilers fans feel about McLeod wait till they see Jeff skinner play hockey

 

[McXLNC97]

Foegele with all his faults, still had 20 goals. Mcleod will be lucky to even get 15 at any point in his career.

 

[Body Checker]

Foegle and McLeod are losses that Oilers will feel. I like those two going up against the Vegas and Vancouver mammoth D’s more than Savoie and Skinner.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Are you serious? McLeod was arguably the softest player on our entire team. He is NOT a "PITA to play again", he does NOT have anything even resembling "snarl", hell, he's not even really a C, he is more of a winger and was used as such.

Look, I like McLeod a lot honestly, but its really obvious that people haven't watched this player.

Buffalo got a guy who can help you win, he is great defensively, has speed to burn, has some offensive punch and is still young. He is good player, but he is not anything like you suggested.

You’re confusing “tough to play against” for “physical.” They’re not the same thing. I can think of a dozen excellent defensive forwards who aren’t mean, but they sure control the ice. That’s what people are talking about when they say McLeod makes Buffalo harder to play against. Defensive/possession metrics.

 

[LeProspector]

Oiler haters in shambles right now.

I love it

I don’t hate the Oilers whatsoever. I am an unbiased neutral fan. I see a 5’9” forward that can only bring offence and I see a flawed prospect that is going to get eaten alive come playoff time.

 

[truthbluth]

has savoie not developed the way sabers thought he would? assumed he was a pretty highly rated prospect

He hasn't. There are guys who are way more up to date on prospect progress than me. But the general take is that his skill and hockey sense has not caght up to his speed. It started to look like he'd top out as an undersized energy line guy.

 

[PuckG]

If this is how oilers fans feel about McLeod wait till they see Jeff skinner play hockey

Skinner produces.

McLeod doesn’t.

Style matters less when you’re effective.

 

[Skolman]

If this is how oilers fans feel about McLeod wait till they see Jeff skinner play hockey

Skinner isn't expected to be a star in Edmonton, like he was in Buffalo.

He's like our 5th/6th/7th best forward.

 

[dss97]

I can’t wrap my head around this trade at all, McLeod is the definition of what it means to be a soft perimeter player who’s allergic to any sort of contact despite his decent size. I would have traded him for a bag of pucks never mind a blue chip prospect like Savoie.

Jackson can remain GM for the foreseeable future please

 

[LeProspector]

you think a poster with the name "habsterr" is an Oilers fan?

Location: Edmonton

 

[ManofSteel55]

If this is how oilers fans feel about McLeod wait till they see Jeff skinner play hockey

Jeff Skinner can shoot the puck. That's pretty much all we need from him. Shoot and score some goals. McLeod can't do that. He is a good player, but has some weak areas still.

 

[Cup or Bust]

Enjoy your small one demential forward that won’t do anything come playoff time.

McLeod was pretty ineffective in the playoffs unfortunately.

 

[Starry Knight]

It wouldn't surprise me if Savoie becomes Logan Stankoven-like trade deadline call up in lieu of a trade for another player. Yeah, Savoie is small, but stick him on Draisatl's wing and he'll be extremely effective.

I've always felt the McLeod brothers lacked anything between the ears. I highly doubt Ryan McLeod ever eclipses 40 points in a season. He can skate fast, but can't think the game at a high level.

 

[nabob]

You’re confusing “tough to play against” for “physical.” They’re not the same thing. I can think of a dozen excellent defensive forwards who aren’t mean, but they sure control the ice. That’s what people are talking about when they say McLeod makes Buffalo harder to play against. Defensive/possession metrics.

Those metrics are influenced by who he plays with as well. Watching him in isolation, he’s not a difficult player to play against.

 

[LeProspector]

That's an awesome comparable that I just used as well.


Which team are you talking to here?

Which team got the 6’3” speedster, and which team got the 5’9” speedster? I’ll let you figure it out.

 

[Cup or Bust]

Foegle and McLeod are losses that Oilers will feel. I like those two going up against the Vegas and Vancouver mammoth D’s more than Savoie and Skinner.

Both Foegele and McLeod were pretty disappointing in the playoffs unfortunately.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Skinner isn't expected to be a star in Edmonton, like he was in Buffalo.

He's like our 5th/6th/7th best forward.

I was referring to the “soft” comments. Skinner will make McLeod look like Wendell Clark

 

[larek]

He rarely gets hit.

Because when he does it's kablam
If he was Muscled up some stronger and weighed 210 or so he would be more physical

 

[LeProspector]

That's okay, Ryan McLeod does very little and he doesn't do anything come playoff time either, that's why the Oilers are getting rid of him.

Oilers are getting rid of him because they 1. can’t afford him, and 2. Are too caught up on “9th overall selection 2 years ago” just like they did with Griffin Reinhart in 2015.

 

[TheNumber4]

Can’t really say I’ve ever seen him do that. Can say that in the playoffs that most of the time when a forward failed to get the puck out or failed to engage with an opponent physically (Game 6 against Van for example) it was McLeod.

It’s easy to cheer for McLeod and want him to do well because he has an amazing smile and can skate like the wind. But really he’s the same perimeter player he was in junior, has all the same holes in his game he had in junior still. Maybe a change of scenery will be the wake up call he needs because being a healthy scratch in the playoffs didn’t do the trick.

It was McLeod at times in the playoffs. Most notably a puck whiff giveaway that eventually lead to his scratching. Kulak had a similar one too. Holloway also got torched on a winger breakout mistake.

But Mcleod was scratched for a stretch where mistakes like that piled up in a short stretch combined with not enough offensive production. Knob sat him to get some nervousness out of his game and give him a reset. Then he was back in the line up and actually did start to produce for us.

I agree he’s a perimeter player though. And he doesn’t have enough physicality. I just don’t think it’s his hands that are holding him back.

 

[Skolman]

I was referring to the “soft” comments. Skinner will make McLeod look like Wendell Clark

That literally makes zero sense, but go off.

 

[McXLNC97]

Foegle and McLeod are losses that Oilers will feel. I like those two going up against the Vegas and Vancouver mammoth D’s more than Savoie and Skinner.

They were both sitting in the pressbox at some point in the playoffs. They will be fine without them. The biggest irritant of that Canucks D is now in Boston.