Confirmed Signing with Link: [BUF] D Rasmus Dahlin signs extension with the Sabres (8 years, $11M AAV)

[Zman5778]

Would have been better for the Sabres if they just signed Dahlin to a 8 year deal before and gave him 9M before the break out.

Of course it would have been better to sign Dahlin to a 8 year deal instead of bridge him.

Problem is, when Dahlin's ELC expired and it was time for Dahlin to sign.......Buffalo was a raging shit storm. Dahlin (rightfully so) likely had ZERO interest in signing long-term with our garbage dump team until he saw signs of life.

 

[Panthaz89]

Yes, if Cozens flat lines as a 60 pt player that contract doesn’t look great. If Samuelsson can’t remain healthy that too.

Yeah, just assume the worst that will work great in negotiations especially with 20–23-year-olds.

 

[Gurglesons]

Yeah, just assume the worst that will work great in negotiations especially with 20–23-year-olds.

I never said Buffalo and Ottawa’s approach was wrong.

I said it’ll be interesting to see in a few years who was right Anaheim or Buffalo / Ottawa.

 

[Panthaz89]

I never said Buffalo and Ottawa’s approach was wrong.

I said it’ll be interesting to see in a few years who was right Anaheim or Buffalo / Ottawa.

I mean sometimes players won't sign for 8 years and force the management to go for a bridge deal. I'm sure the Sabres and Anaheim both wanted Zegras and Dahlin for 8 years but the players wouldn't take those deals just yet knowing they could make more once the bridge ended.

 

[Gurglesons]

I mean sometimes players won't sign for 8 years and force the management to go for a bridge deal. I'm sure the Sabres and Anaheim both wanted Zegras and Dahlin for 8 years but the players wouldn't take those deals just yet knowing they could make more once the bridge ended.

I think it’s been well reported that Anaheim did not want Zegras on an 8 year deal.

Either way, both approaches have their merit. Buffalo’s issue isn’t going to be Tage or Dahlin IMO if things go south.

 

[toddkaz]

But I mean is he really worth 1.75 mil more then a guy like nurse?

Dahlin is a top 5 defenseman in the league and hasn't hit his ceiling yet.

The answer is yes.

 

[Three On Zero]

Sanderson just got 8 years 8 million after his rookie year....what do you think top D-men who have 1 year of RFA are going to make? Makar is going to get way more after his contract is up.

Makar is also MUCH better than Dahlin is

 

[sergejean]

Great deal!

 

[Jage]

One thing to remember comparing Dahlin to Makar is that the other contract was signed 2 years ago. Now everything else has been said already but I haven't seen any direct mentionings about what has taken place in these two years and what it has done to the value of the dollar.

These players negotiate their job salary and one of the key points when negotiating your salary these days is to refer magical word called "inflation". Sure it impacts the revenues blablabla but the players may not think it that way but refer to the inflation directly.

 

[elchud]

The absolute floor for a Dahlin 8 year deal was 10million+1 dollar, a buck more than Eichel. A million more than what Eichel signed for 6 years earlier is absolutely sound. In the Sabres universe, Eichel is as appropriate (if not more) a contract comp as any defenseman being invoked.

In 3 years this will be viewed as a bargain contract. We are on the advent of 9 million dollars being the price tag for a veteran 1D, a top 30 defenseman. Dahlin is top-5, and even for those not quite sold on him, top-10. Chicago and Edmonton jumped the gun with Jones and Nurse by a couple years, but that's where we are with the cap going up finally.

 

[Panthaz89]

Makar is also MUCH better than Dahlin is

Dahlin literally just had an arguably better season and is almost 2 years younger than Makar who is turning 25 this month....wtf is this emphasis on MUCH. People keep forgetting how young Dahlin started his career apparently. Dahlin is signing for the year after this which is the 24-32 age mark for the contract which is perfect for the Sabres.

 

[Fjordy]

Makar is also MUCH better than Dahlin is

Where?

 

[jiitu]

What kind of logic is that? They haven’t won because their d and goaltending is mediocre af. Hockey is a team sport. Vegas were a complete team top to bottom.

Lol. Do you really not get the point? Really?

Why do you think their D and goaltending is medicore? Would it have something to do with too high salaries of their top players, leaving too little cap to construct the team?

That was my whole point. Hockey is a team sport and the thing that so many (like the on who I replied) says nowadays that top stars are underpayed is absolute comedy for me. The guy said tjat Mcdavid should get 20 M, while thay cannot build a winning team around him even with current caphit.

So yes, if the 14M cap for him was undepayment (like some are claiming), edmo ton should have won multiple cups already. But it isnt.

In my world, no player is worth of 14+ % of capceiling. In long contract, this could go above if in later yeara it will be below, but for example, in my world, e.g. Mcdavid's current contract could be considered ok, if it was made now. Maybe.

You all can disagree, but like I said, results seem to prove my view more cirrect up to now.

 

[Devil made me do it]

The type of a contract you give to a generational defenseman? The best one in the entire NHL? Which Dahlin clearly is not.
So how exactly is he worth every penny?

 

[MOGlLNY]

The type of a contract you give to a generational defenseman? The best one in the entire NHL? Which Dahlin clearly is not.
So how exactly is he worth every penny?

It is insane to me that the people who watch this guy every single night (and their GM has a reputation for signing guys to great value contracts) are all good with this contract but people are telling us how to feel. But that’s HFB for you. Dahlin was easily our best player last year and the year before.

Yeah, it’s not a discount but it’s a fair deal and will be about 12% of the cap when it kicks in. It’s buying 7 of his UFA years.

And Dahlin could absolutely win a Norris for the entirety of the contract so idk about that.

 

[Oddbob]

Non top 5D in the league should not be making 11M

Makar, Fox, McAvoy, all are a lot under 11M and are better then him, but they signed under lower cap.

Dahlin ceiling is lower than Malar and Fox but probably better than McAvoy

He still needs to improve to be worth 11M

Dahlin also plays in a market many UFA's don't desire, so that means smaller market teams have to overpay a little. Also, if Makar's deal was up right now, he would get at least 10.5-12.5.

The type of a contract you give to a generational defenseman? The best one in the entire NHL? Which Dahlin clearly is not.
So how exactly is he worth every penny?

NJ is paying 9 mil for Hamilton and he is nowhere near as good as Dahlin.

 

[TageGod]

Where?

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But but Makar does zoomies in the offensive zone and Dahlin doesn't.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Look it would be just easier if you admitted you don’t understand the cap calculation.
Ignored mouser, ignored the inflator in previous years

here’s a couple more
Cap is now based on the previous 2 seasons revenues,not 1, another factor.
And no it’s not divided by 64, the calculation gets you to the midpoint (100%)
Minimum cap is set at 85%
Maximum cap (83.5) is set to 115%. ( that’s why number was higher)

Plus include the other factors already mentioned in getting to the midpoint calculation, plus a few others, Sorry dude, give it up.

It's weird how you keep saying I ignored mouser when I responded to him... Numerous times in that thread. Calculation is historically, startlingly accurate for you claiming it's not.

Also, thank you for trying to cite the cap calculation this year ($83.5M) considering the cap is artificially set low while the players continue to pay their COVID debt. The last accurate calculation was 2019-2020.

 

[The S5]

This contract will more than likely work out for Buffalo, but it is a lot for a guy with one breakout season. I do think he will continue to play well though. If he continues on his trajectory, he will be solidly a top 5 D for the foreseeable future.

 

[Matt Ress]

This video is actually pretty amazing instead of just highlights of goals and assists.

Hockey Truffles makes dope videos

 

[tucker3434]

Great contract. There aren’t many guys that provide significant value at $11m but he’s going to be one of them.

 

[bert]

The type of a contract you give to a generational defenseman? The best one in the entire NHL? Which Dahlin clearly is not.
So how exactly is he worth every penny?

He's not far off and he has plenty of runway left to improve. Big guys take longer and his raw skillset is undeniable as is the upside.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

People calling this an overpayment for 8 years are out of their minds lol

 

[StreetHawk]

Neither a discount nor an overpayment. In comparison to Karlson and DD, who are the only Dmen at this $11 mill cap hit and higher, those 2 signed when they were around 28 or so when they signed. Dahlin would actually be younger than they are now when this deal expires. So, the AAV isn't being decreased to factor in decline in the mid 30's.

It's not a steal, unless he's a Norris caliber Dman.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Holy shit

Overpaid right now
Could be a Bargain later