Value of: Bryan Rust

[SomeDude]

He seems like the type of guy a bunch of GMs would covet due to “intangibles.” No trade protection after this year.

Should be gone this summer but probably won’t as to not rock the boat of the old boys club.

 

[Gurglesons]

Doubt he brings back anything in a trade. Probably a contract swap or PIT is paying additional assets to move him to a team for a younger player.

 

[Khelandros]

Look at the games played though. Look at 2022. 58pts in 60gp. It's incredibly reasonable to suggest he could have got 2 more points if he played 22 more games.

But he didn't. Projections and pace mean nothing when the season is done and you haven't hit the hypothetical number.

Ryan Poehling was on pace to score 246 goals in 2018-19, if only he had played the other 81 games required to do it.

Zero (0) 60+ point seasons.

 

[DesertPenguin]

There are, in fact, exactly 0 60+ point seasons there.

I said ish

 

[Ulf5]

There are, in fact, exactly 0 60+ point seasons there.

And a whole lot of ppp

 

[Khelandros]

I said ish

60ish is right, without relying on PPP is wrong.

 

[Bishop7979]

In the off-season I felt like rust would be a good fit for jersey of buffalo. Buffalo are overflowing in prospects and showed with the McLeod trade that they will move a kid with upside for someone who is a good fit now.

But that was before they signed zucker.

I still think they would benefit longer term by moving cozens back to center, slotting a guy like rust next to him and putting kilich back in the minors to cook for a while.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

We’re going to need 2 firsts and an A prospect for the Rusty Razor.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Rust's p/g the last 5 years is .82...67 points per 82 games.

His pace this year is .83...68 points per 82 games.

Those are the numbers of a "decent 2nd liner"?

 

[DrDangles]

Epic timing for this thread

 

[Wattsburgh]

Epic timing for this thread

Thanks DrDangles. A Hat trick!

 

[Ryder71]

He has a NMC, just sayin.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

You say this but then 5 teams will give out the same exact kind of contract to the same caliber of player every year in free agency.

I don't necessarily disagree, I think the Penguins would have to take a decently sized deal back, but I'm not sure why this gets said so often on here when these guys constantly get these big deals every off-season in free agency. Marchessault is better, but he's a year older than Rust and signed a 5x5.5 deal last off-season. Toffoli is about the same age and ability as Rust and he got a 4x6 deal last off-season.

I don't think he's overpaid, but with the Pens roster, they are better keeping him. As a late 1st or whatever isn't much.

 

[chethejet]

Dubas will be moving some players and Rust NMC is gone. His AAV/salary is affordable in a rising cap and a team say like Detroit will give up a mid first to get that production for the next couple of years. How many RW RShot are out there who just had a hat rick that is more than Guentzel had, Pens don't have to move him but if they get a nice pick Dubas will consider it. He will bring back nice pick or assets. He is hardly a cap exchange player.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Rust as a player last year had at least Detroit interested.

Ultimately the picks added depends on the contract taken back.

If a team needs a winger who scored 20+ a year Rust is at a good cap hit. The issue is Penguins have with Rust is he may be one of our best wingers which is disappointing.

I could see a similar ufa signing + a 2nd come back in a trade.

 

[SomeDude]

He has a NMC, just sayin.

For 6 more months. Then no trade protection at all. Hextall did us a solid with that one.

 

[SEALBound]

Price starts at a 1st now.

 

[chethejet]

I said it before Hextall was told to sign the players for a 3 year period. forget the contracts, FSG did everything to get them intact for tickets and sales considerations. Contracts after this year in Rust Malkin, Karlsson all start going down in salary. Still have a tough contract in Jarry but after this year if he plays reasonably well which is still a possibility, Dubas can move him. 3 years at 5 million is not a terrible contract for a goalie. Graves is here unless Dubas makes a dump deal which he won't do. I do think Karlsson with some retention and possibly Rust will be moved. Petts at the TDL is also a good possibility. Rebuild has to happen.

 

[Wattsburgh]

Wouldn’t accept anything less than a 1st for Rust, Rakell and Marcus Petts. If Dubas wants to rebuild on the fly, 3 firsts would be close to that.