Agree with you 100%, he is making a good living doing what he loves, very few people have that privilege. I think he know he won’t make an NHL roster and he is very happy in Providence, and the Bruins are happy to have him there.
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That 3rd line is firing lately, but I think it would be wise to upgrade before it comes an issue again. I don't believe Nash can sustain in that 3C spot. I'd put Spooner in the same boat. I also feel like Heinen and/or Backes will ultimately end up on Krejci's wing at some point, providing he stays healthy.
I'm not a big Hoffman fan. I think Pageau and Brassard are better fits, depending on what kind of 3rd line you're trying to build.
Obviously you don't have Spooner in your groups above, and he might be dealt. If you move Spooner though you team becomes dangerously thin at C should anyone get injured.
Honestly when you look at it from those groups. You need a 2nd line winger. Honestly I think there is significant room to improve upon Nash as 3rd line C, which of course improves your 4th line by putting Nash there. And while Gryz has played well, there is a legit chance to improve a good bit there.
I don't disagree with the notion that there is a potential backlog, especially among LH shot wingers. (Heinen, DeBrusk, Bjork, Cehlarik, more coming), and same at LHD . Still you need to be careful in deciding who to keep and who to lose, and you need to find value for those you do move. ANd of course you need to find a dance partner.
Let's say Simmonds who you suggest. At what cost? Does Zboril, and Cehlarik get it done? Probably not. How much more, do you have to add a JFK or a Frederick , now you are suddenly taking a hit where you are not as deep? do you send the #1, which you might want to preserve as it spreads out talent and gives you a potential ELC player for when this generation of prospects becomes expensive.
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I think he had a playoff run last year and thought he could stay home and be the 7/8 guy in Boston.
If he has such a good relationship with Sweeney all he has to do is say he’s gunna give his life long dream another chance (somewhere else) and hope he is welcomed back in 2/3 years if it fails.
I’d be really surprised if he knows he is that close and just gives up to live in providence his whole life.
I’m not nieve I know he has passed thru waivers 20 times but being in that organization and on the ice when injuries strike in Edmonton or Vancouver or Florida puts him in the NHL and in Boston it doesn’t anymore.
Did he resign before or after Postma ?!? Cause I have a feeling if it was after that wasn’t a good/fun day for Tommy.
Anyway it’s all speculation and any of us writing or caring for that matter shows the respect we have for how he has pursued and handled himself thru his career.
My opinion on Simmonds is that if you're going to go purge some of your top young assets, it better be for a player who's going to be around for the long term. Not a 1.5 year rental.
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I have my doubts about Nash too but the third line isn't my biggest concern. all three players are smart, responsible players and I think even if Nash slows down they like those three players together because they are capable of playing against other teams top lines in any situation. if Nash falls off that much then I move Backes to center and put one of our prospects (Bjork/Cehlarik) at right wing.
To be clear I do not think the Bruins need to do anything, but if they do I want it to be a significant trade for a top 6 right wing. Like you I am not a fan of Hoffman, nice player but not what the Bruins should be pursuing. Same goes for Brassard. I like Pageau but again he's more of a third liner. I want a top 6 scorer.
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To your first point, I don't think Spooner is dealt for that exact reason. He is too valuable with Krejci having injury issues.
The potential backlog puts us in a good position to make a trade if Sweeney times it right. We have a lot of prospects pushing for NHL spots and more behind them. It is a great situation to be in if we trade the right guys. That is up to Sweeney to figure out. But we can potentially add a significant piece to compete in the next couple years while also keeping the farm system strong. Best of both worlds.
At first I wasn't a fan of Simmonds because he's a year and half rental but the more I thought about it the more I began to think it could actually be perfect if the price is right. He is on a great contract and when it is up we should have another young guy (Senyshyn, Donato) ready to take his spot. Simmonds would add something we are missing up front and in my opinion he would make our top 6 one of the best in the league.
I don't know what the Flyers would ask for but I know they have a lot of defense prospects so they probably wouldn't want Zboril. I suck at making proposals so I try to keep away. I know I wouldn't trade JFK because I have him pegged as our third line center next year. Debrusk and Heinen are definitely keepers. After that it is up to Sweeney to pick the right prospects/picks to include in a deal. The good news is he is dealing from a position of strength, we do not need to make a trade. Things are good.
Fair enough.
I'm of the opinion that a quality 3rd line C would allow you to move up one or both of Backes and Heinen, who are scoring at 60+ point rates. I think Spooner will always have too many questions around his ability to defend at the position. Nash will always have questions about his ability to attack and produce. You get a 3-zone game from him about as often as you get it from Spooner...
Maybe I'm misjudging Brassard. Have never watched him that closely to be honest. Seems like a little of Nash, a little of Spooner from my limited memory. A happy in between. Pageau is like Chris Kelly, but better IMO. I really like Pageau. I just question how much he can make a line go. Can he make plays for others, or is he simply crash bang and go?
I really like the wing depth at the professional level. I feel like Bjork and Cehlarik could and should be playing everyday in the NHL, providing they are healthy. Right now I'd be all about the C depth giving that youth the opportunity to succeed. Stability at C. Doesn't appear like Backes is a viable option anymore, even though I was on that wagon for the longest time.
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Joe Thornton would be a great 3rd like center here. Heinen-Thornton-Backes
I agree that Jumbo Joe would be amazing to have here.
Can't see him costing us a fortune either and our PP would be sooooooo much better.
I could also see him signing another one year here if we were close to be a Cup contender.
My #1 would be to get Looch back. I know he prefers the West Coast but I wonder if he's changed his mind any living in Edmonton winters.......
Can't see him costing us a fortune either and our PP would be sooooooo much better.
I could also see him signing another one year here if we were close to be a Cup contender.
My #1 would be to get Looch back. I know he prefers the West Coast but I wonder if he's changed his mind any living in Edmonton winters.......
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Wonder if Krug + Carlo could be a starting point.
Regardless I don't think it'd be easy to fit him and especially his next contract on the team.
Doiron said he was one of 2 available... Will it happen, likely not... not after Duchene and COL
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I think it would.
I don’t want Karlsson exactly for what he will be asking. Throw a $12m contract in our pond and one wouldn’t like the waves it makes, cap wise (I don’t think that teams with such large contracts for one individual can really build winning teams) and also because I am not sure how it would get accepted in the locker room when everyone in the Bruins is ~7m or below.
Would not touch Thornton with a ten foot pole, he is done, zero speed, him and Jagr would take a week to do a lap around the rink. Karlsson is worriesome, has to be something physically wrong with him, his skating was his strength, now it is his liability. That injury has slowed him tremendously, the risk is whether he will ever be the same guy he was before, for me that risk is to big for the money he wants and players it would take to acquire him, let sleeping dogs lye.
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I know it wont be ideal...but with the term on Max Pacioretty...he'd look good on the left side of DK
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dont need any soft, 1 dimensional floaters that disappear completely in the playoffs.
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So looking at his playoff stats, if you eliminate 2016 he's done fairly well.
32 GP
10 G
8 A
18 points
If he comes to Boston, he'd play against 2nd tier defense and have a pretty good centerman - arguably his best one.
We'd have 2 very good lines
Probably wouldn't get it done but I'd offer this for EK:
Carlo
Beleskey (cap reasons)
Any F prospect not in Boston (I'd include Bjork)
Any D prospect not in Boston
1st rounder 2018
Conditional 2nd rounder if EK re-signs
Carlo
Beleskey (cap reasons)
Any F prospect not in Boston (I'd include Bjork)
Any D prospect not in Boston
1st rounder 2018
Conditional 2nd rounder if EK re-signs
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