Eh, not really interested in moving McQuaid, unless it is for a very sizable overpay. This team is championship driven right now, and McQuaid is better than any depth defenseman they could bring in. If he has to be dealt for money, or to complete a bigger trade then maybe you move him, But I have no interest in trading McQuaid, and then turning around and giving up a #4 and #6 to bring in a JML type defenseman for depth
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Eh, not really interested in moving McQuaid, unless it is for a very sizable overpay. This team is championship driven right now, and McQuaid is better than any depth defenseman they could bring in. If he has to be dealt for money, or to complete a bigger trade then maybe you move him, But I have no interest in trading McQuaid, and then turning around and giving up a #4 and #6 to bring in a JML type defenseman for depth
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I like the depth as well, and I don't see too much reason to move him now, especially since he's still on LTIR. I'd rather move him in the offseason. Pretty simply put though, he can't be here and be a #7 defenseman for the $2.75 million he's making this year and next. He'd bring some value to another team, even if the return is only a mid-round pick for us.
It's really incredible what this team is doing despite paying all the buy-outs, Beleskey's salary to play in the AHL, etc.
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Well the fact that the team has players on ELC affords them the ability to keep a McQuaid as depth. The Bruins are well positioned against the cap for next year especially if the cap goes up as anticipated.
They really don;t have to go swimming in the Free Agent sewer this summer, expect maybe at the top where they should at least make an offer to Tavares, and yes if they got him that would require some moves.
If they were to be able to move 2 or 3 prospects to add a core piece than that might require clearing some space. But right now the Bruins are in good shape even with McQuaid on the roster next year. The following year when McQuaid contract expires is when money will be tight.
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Overall I'm leaning this way.We finally have a FAST team and there is clearly no questioning their compete level. And we do have plenty of vets so I guess there's no need look for another guy with experience.
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Sweeney: Any interest in McQuaid
Other GM: Maybe, what about Miller though?
If you look at the general consensus was around here back before opening night this was supposed to be a bubble team. As it sits now these guys are ready for the playoffs. Still alot of hockey left and potential injuries to be had but as it is they should stand pat. These guys are on fire right now. It's a good time to be a Bruin's fan.
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I've been complaining that DeBrusk Krejci Spooner isn't good enough. Thought they got hemmed in their zone too much.
Turns out the stats match the eye test. Its a limited sample, but they don't even get 40% of the shot attempts on the ice. As much as the Bergeron line wins their matchups, the Krejci line is losing them. They can do some pretty things in the offensive zone. That cycle by the blue line last night was cool and creative and, most importantly, worked.
But, it feels like as a line in the defensive zone they collapse and play defense instead of getting the puck back more than the other lines. (If Spooner is healthy) Going to really key in on that line in the neutral and defensive zones tonight, but I think its a line that lacks the tenacity that the three other lines have. They aren't hard to play against unless they already have the puck.
Of course, they way things are going, Spooner has a 5 point night and DeBrusk gets a hat trick tonight
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edit: Not to be negative, just trying to figure out why this team couldn't be a Cup contender and the #2 line seems like a legit place to look unless there is a magic "make Charlie 5 years older and Chara 5 years younger" pill.
edit 2: Looking at the Bjork videos from @BruinsNetwork in Providence this weekend makes me think the answer for tenacity + skill for the line might be a couple weeks and an hour drive away.
Turns out the stats match the eye test. Its a limited sample, but they don't even get 40% of the shot attempts on the ice. As much as the Bergeron line wins their matchups, the Krejci line is losing them. They can do some pretty things in the offensive zone. That cycle by the blue line last night was cool and creative and, most importantly, worked.
But, it feels like as a line in the defensive zone they collapse and play defense instead of getting the puck back more than the other lines. (If Spooner is healthy) Going to really key in on that line in the neutral and defensive zones tonight, but I think its a line that lacks the tenacity that the three other lines have. They aren't hard to play against unless they already have the puck.
Of course, they way things are going, Spooner has a 5 point night and DeBrusk gets a hat trick tonight
.edit: Not to be negative, just trying to figure out why this team couldn't be a Cup contender and the #2 line seems like a legit place to look unless there is a magic "make Charlie 5 years older and Chara 5 years younger" pill.
edit 2: Looking at the Bjork videos from @BruinsNetwork in Providence this weekend makes me think the answer for tenacity + skill for the line might be a couple weeks and an hour drive away.
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Jimmy Murphy, he's Haggs cousin right?
HAHAHA it does seem that way, doesn't it!!
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OMG ^^^^ too perfect! Neely is looking at the cat that swallowed the Canary!
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HAHAHA it does seem that way, doesn't it!!
OMG ^^^^ too perfect! Neely is looking at the cat that swallowed the Canary!
I actually wouldn't be surprised if other GM's are calling Sweeney about Miller. They know that a d-man will have to come out of the lineup sooner then later. They won't trade Chara, McAvoy, Carlo or Krug.
That leaves Miller as the obvious choice for a trade. The Bruins may (or may not) want to move McQuaid, but Miller has a higher value to other teams.
I dunno, to me it's a no brainer he is who other GM's would be inquiring about.
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I posted this on trade rumors board. The premise was not giving up a key current NHL piece. Just wanted to bring it here and see what the concensus would be on this deal for Taveres:
Spooner
McQ
Heinen/DeBrusk/Bjork
Zboril/Lauzon/Urho/Lingdren
1st
2nd
We could hypothetically still add one of JFK/Frederic and maybe it makes more sense to do that if we trade for a center. Senyshyn could be an additional potential piece.
Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta
DeBrusk-Taveres-Backes
Heinen-Krejci-Nash
This would leave us a middle 6 winger away from being set for a really long time.
Spooner
McQ
Heinen/DeBrusk/Bjork
Zboril/Lauzon/Urho/Lingdren
1st
2nd
We could hypothetically still add one of JFK/Frederic and maybe it makes more sense to do that if we trade for a center. Senyshyn could be an additional potential piece.
Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta
DeBrusk-Taveres-Backes
Heinen-Krejci-Nash
This would leave us a middle 6 winger away from being set for a really long time.
Kevan is starting to look like a younger version of Dennis Seidenberg. I know that they have too many NHL d-men but buys like him are priceless going into the playoffs. IF the B's were to consider trading him, what would you expect the price (coming back) would be Dom? Is there an equivalent LD that the Bruins would target to fill the impending need on the left side?
Your premise was to not give up a key NHL piece, and you included Heinen as one of the options to deal? This is incongruous.
Obviously this is a lot to give up for a player who can walk at the end of the year. At the same time it is 6 nickels for a quarter deal. What is the most valuable piece? The forward prospect? Maybe the #1. There are other teams who might be willing to give up bigger key pieces, and getting the best key pieces usually drive deals more than the most pieces.
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Tavares is a superstar. You don't get em for pieces. How bout; Pasta, Krejci and a 2018 first if we sign him??
Id sit tight right now unless an offer that cant be refused.
We cant forget that just 9 months ago as we entered the stretch we ran out of D men.
We cant forget that just 9 months ago as we entered the stretch we ran out of D men.
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I’d trade my 1st born to see Tavares on this team. I have no idea what a rental like that would cost though. There must be past examples of a superstar rental deadline deal and what’s it cost.
Spooner
Miller/Mcquaid
JFK
1st
No idea if that’s close.
Spooner
Miller/Mcquaid
JFK
1st
No idea if that’s close.
Mainehockey33
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That is the price for Tavares if he had 4 more years on his contract. Not the price for a 6 month rental. (I know the #1 is the addition if he resigns)
I think I have decided I would rather bring big Joe Colbourne back. Big guy could center 3rd/4th line, could play wing. A LH draw who had been good on faceoff prior to this year. Loves to his people. Solid defensively. He brings some offence. He should be available at a reasonable price as Colorado is going nowhere
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Pittsburgh renting Hossa and NJ renting Kovalchuk (even though he did re-sign that summer as UFA) are probably the closest comparables in terms of renting legit superstar level players in the cap era.
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