Post-Game Talk: bruins @ Rongos

[NYSPORTS]

The Bruins are not carrying those types, they have some tougher guys who have enough skill to play in the top 9F or top 4D, if the Rangers can find those types I'd be all for it. Why Kreider gets a pass for not being more of that yet Zbad or whoever does not I do not know.

Bruins are pretty vanilla imo. Strong on the puck, strong on the boards and go to the net. They are anything but pretty. They’re workman like.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I want this team to play like montreal always does, they pile on anyone who touches one of their guys and most times they are the smaller team. Team toughness, i don't care if you are Kreider, Zibanejad Hajek or whoever, you need to show teams that you will all fight for each other otherwise teams prey on it. Buch is a good example of it the last year, Smith always was which is why i like him in the lineup. There's no way Richie gets away with that with Smith out there....0 chance.

 

[Leonardo87]

Maybe this team could use extra extra time for practice. Especially that putrid pp. then again who knows if they even would accomplish anything. As a fan last three games have been exhausting and frustrating. I don’t mind the break. Would rather not see us lose 5-0 vs philly today

You are probably right. There is so much talent on this team including a 1st and 2nd OA pick. There are no excuses. Everyone needs to play better even the ones who have been good.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Maybe this team could use extra extra time for practice. Especially that putrid pp. then again who knows if they even would accomplish anything. As a fan last three games have been exhausting and frustrating. I don’t mind the break. Would rather not see us lose 5-0 vs philly today

The Rangers have lost exactly two games by more than 1 goal this season, one of those games was the first game of the season when there was no preseason, the other they lost by two on goals scored late in the third period. Why in God's name do you think they'll lose 5-0 to Philly?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Paul Byron on waivers, id take him in a heartbeat if they were interested in a trade to soften the cap of 3.4. Maybe deangelo for him?

 

[Imback]

I want this team to play like montreal always does, they pile on anyone who touches one of their guys and most times they are the smaller team. Team toughness, i don't care if you are Kreider, Zibanejad Hajek or whoever, you need to show teams that you will all fight for each other otherwise teams prey on it. Buch is a good example of it the last year, Smith always was which is why i like him in the lineup. There's no way Richie gets away with that with Smith out there....0 chance.

Ideally this!! But it’s not in our teams DNA

 

[bl02]

The Rangers have lost exactly two games by more than 1 goal this season, one of those games was the first game of the season when there was no preseason, the other they lost by two on goals scored late in the third period. Why in God's name do you think they'll lose 5-0 to Philly?

little bit of exaggeration but right now I think they could use an extra few days off since anyone (except 4th liners) has not scored in forever. It certainly can't hurt.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

little bit of exaggeration but right now I think they could use an extra few days off since anyone except 4th liners haven't scored in forever. It certainly can't hurt.

I agree about that and the fewer games without Panarin and Chytil, the better. Anyone know if Panarin is expected back on Tuesday?

 

[bl02]

Paul Byron on waivers, id take him in a heartbeat if they were interested in a trade to soften the cap of 3.4. Maybe deangelo for him?

He has speed that is for sure but again like many things this year it's gonna come down to a money thing. Plus doesn't he have 3 years left? Right now I would stay clear of any "long" contracts. Sure if this was his last year and somehow montreal could absorb 50 percent.

 

[bl02]

I agree about that and the fewer games without Panarin and Chytil, the better. Anyone know if Panarin is expected back on Tuesday?

Quinn said he thinks he should be back tuesday but haven't heard anything recently (yesterday/today).
Chytil is already been out 3 weeks from his injury believe it or not. Now he is on covid protocol I heard?

 

[Larrybiv]

Wasn't Rooney on the ice? And he didn't really do anything other than have words with him.

I think so, but that wasn't the time to do anything. Close game and would've certainly been ejected. I am "all about" protecting your teammates, but ESPECIALLY this year, there will be many games to reciprocate. A throwback to orig6, and even through the 1st expansion w/Blues, Philly, L.A. etc.

 

[Larrybiv]

So, I did a very simple analysis of how different teams are this year compared to last, with the caveat of there being a small sample size. Actually it's not even that small anymore, it's 1/4 of a season. But small enough it needs to be mentioned. Basically I took the absolute value of the difference between this year and last in GF/G added to the absolute value of the difference between this year last in GA/G. And what do you know it? My hypothesis was true. We are the team that changed the most since last year.

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Thanks for hard work. Changing the "most" is one thing, changing the most "for the better" (offense, defense) is quite another.
From what I see (God help us) is that
Montreal
Toronto
Tampa Bay &
Dallas have made significant strides as offensive prowess has improved, defensively got more stingy.

Some other teams either got better offensively and about same defensively, and vice versa.

We are .6 better defensively BUT nearly ONE whole goal per game less thats a net of -.4 not so good.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Thanks for hard work. Changing the "most" is one thing, changing the most "for the better" (offense, defense) is quite another.
From what I see (God help us) is that
Montreal
Toronto
Tampa Bay &
Dallas have made significant strides as offensive prowess has improved, defensively got more stingy.

Some other teams either got better offensively and about same defensively, and vice versa.

We are .6 better defensively BUT nearly ONE whole goal per game less thats a net of -.4 not so good.

Mtl tampa and toronto are in fairly weak divisions. I don't think there's any confusion where our issues are, Mika, Kreider, Buch and Strome need to score.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Not sure where to put this but we're literally winning that game last week away from being tied with the Islanders who are 3rd in our division right now. Let's get off the ledge for now.

 

[Larrybiv]

Bruins are pretty vanilla imo. Strong on the puck, strong on the boards and go to the net. They are anything but pretty. They’re workman like.

Yes, so somehow integrating those traits with the talent the Rangers have is Quinn & staff's JOB. If they deny that's an issue, or refuse to allow the players to respond to abuse (like AV did) then I have NO USE for Quinn.
Agree that we shouldnt have ONE or 2 of those players. EVERYONE needs to handle themselves adequately (win or lose) but making the statement that "that shit aint happening".

 

[Harbour Dog]

Looking back at this one, I feel like we went wrong by letting the Bruins take the fight into the trenches.

That's their team identity, and we played right into it. I don't know what kind of a team we are now or that we're going to be when the kids come of age, but it at this moment we sure as hell aren't built to get into scrappy games.

If there is one lesson to be learned from this one, it may be to stick to the gameplan and not lose track of that.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Looking back at this one, I feel like we went wrong by letting the Bruins take the fight into the trenches.

That's their team identity, and we played right into it. I don't know what kind of a team we are now or that we're going to be when the kids come of age, but it at this moment we sure as hell aren't built to get into scrappy games.

If there is one lesson to be learned from this one, it may be to stick to the gameplan and not lose track of that.

This is kind of overblown, it was two close games, the first one we played better and the second one they did. We would have won the first one if we had Shesterkin.

 

[Harbour Dog]

This is kind of overblown, it was two close games, the first one we played better and the second one they did. We would have won the first one if we ad Shesterkin.

Simply saying that we were outplayed isn't an acceptable excuse for any sport, game, or competition though.

If you want to improve, you need to know why and how we were outplayed. And in my opinion, it is because Boston shifted the style of the game to a grittier, rougher one, and we followed them right in.

I don't think that is overblown at all lol. It's just a possible reason why Boston dominated us in the second, and shut us down in the third.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Simply saying that we were outplayed isn't an acceptable excuse for any sport, game, or competition though.

If you want to improve, you need to know why and how we were outplayed. And in my opinion, it is because Boston shifted the style of the game to a grittier, rougher one, and we followed them right in.

I don't think that is overblown at all lol. It's just a possible reason why Boston dominated us in the second, and shut us down in the third.

Ok, so we'll ignore the first game where we were expected to win by 2 goals but our goalie couldn't stop a beach ball and theirs dominated?

 

[Harbour Dog]

Ok, so we'll ignore the first game where we were expected to win by 2 goals but our goalie couldn't stop a beach ball and theirs dominated?

You are arguing with air.

I'm only taking about how Boston managed to shift the momentum in the second game.

If you want to excel at something, and you fail to execute your game plan at times, then you should assess why, and see if there are adjustments that you can make in the future. My adjustment after how Boston took control of that game would be for us to be more cognizent of getting taken out of our own style and dragged into the opponent's.

Obviously we aren't going to win all of our games, but we will never be a championship team if our coaching staff and GM just shrug off losses and say that there's nothing we can do differently.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Looking back at this one, I feel like we went wrong by letting the Bruins take the fight into the trenches.

That's their team identity, and we played right into it. I don't know what kind of a team we are now or that we're going to be when the kids come of age, but it at this moment we sure as hell aren't built to get into scrappy games.

If there is one lesson to be learned from this one, it may be to stick to the gameplan and not lose track of that.

I think they are just seasoned vets who have won and we're trying to get there

 

[SnowblindNYR]

You are arguing with air.

I'm only taking about how Boston managed to shift the momentum in the second game.

If you want to excel at something, and you fail to execute your game plan at times, then you should assess why, and see if there are adjustments that you can make in the future. My adjustment after how Boston took control of that game would be for us to be more cognizent of getting taken out of our own style and dragged into the opponent's.

Obviously we aren't going to win all of our games, but we will never be a championship team if our coaching staff and GM just shrug off losses and say that there's nothing we can do differently.

I don't disagree with that.

 

[Harbour Dog]

I think they are just seasoned vets who have won and we're trying to get there

And part of getting there is taking lessons from your mistakes.

 

[TominNC]

Changed momentum, took it to us, bullied, manhandled, etc etc etc. It was a 1-0 game. The kids did alright.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

And part of getting there is taking lessons from your mistakes.

This journey is a lot longer than some people were expecting, when they thought rebuild they thought we'd draft players and 3 years later the cup would show up. A lot of losing goes into learning to win.