The don godfather
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Holy dung greentree has 110 points. Nice miss there Donny once again.
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"Minten is at his best when he’s chasing after guys."
What does that actually mean? Are they trying to say he's better defensively? Or fore-checking? Because it sounds to me like if you're chasing after guys, you're probably behind in the play, chasing after puck carriers instead of carrying the puck yourself or making plays with it.
What does that actually mean? Are they trying to say he's better defensively? Or fore-checking? Because it sounds to me like if you're chasing after guys, you're probably behind in the play, chasing after puck carriers instead of carrying the puck yourself or making plays with it.
I get some Boldy vibes from Greentree.Holy dung green tree has 110 points. Nice miss there Donny once again.
The don godfather
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Dean leternaeu has done butkus 3 points in 33 games in college hockey. I'm kinda worried hope at least he becomes a brian boyle type. Donny always reaches when he should take the best prospect available and greentree was sitting right there as soon as he whiffed la grabbed him. I have 2015 nhl vibes with that move.
Over the volcano
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I've got Lorhei vibes. Raw but skilled
I don’t know, man. I bet there’s guys playing in college that could get 3 assists playing without a stick. If the reports were that he is burying 3 guys a game in the corners, takes 60% of his face-offs, and is shot blocking machine….well, that’s one thing. The reports are, “seems like he played college a year too early”. A year too early? For a HUGE first rounder? That’s like 12 points on the 4th line. That’s “seems like a year too early”. 3 points is like 4 rounds too early in the draft.
And I absolutely wanted the big guy…but I just read TSN 5 minutes before the draft, not make a living supposedly scouting these kids.
DominicT
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Over the volcano
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Like Lorhei he was supposed to play another year before jumping to the NCAA - and BC is #1 in the nation, that's a tough spot to jump in a year early let alone earn big minutes/opportunities.
DominicT
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BC asked him to come in early.
With the Bruins blessing.
With the Bruins blessing.
The don godfather
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So far bust! Hopefully I'm wrong big time. Let's go dean! Wake up from your 3 points.
Son of Donegal
Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.
I am going to be patient with Letourneau as he is a total unicorn...and totally raw, but it would be a lot easier to be patient if Big Sween hadn't botched a handful of other previous 1st round selections...and if Greentree wasn't exactly the type of player BOS could use in their system right now. I know he had his warts leading up to the draft, but Greentree is making an impact all over the ice in various ways. Letourneau is still trying to figure out where the dining hall is at BC.
ODAAT
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Sweeney is the one announcing the pick but can we directly blame him as I have to think the scouts see a player far more than he does? I`ll blame him for picking the scout
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There’s a reason Greentree was passed over 25 times. He had 90 points in 64 games last year and was still left to the bottom of the first. Using his OHL points to make some sort of value judgement on him is pretty surface level.
It is more common for "HUGE first rounders" to take a bit more time to grow into their body. I think that's why they are saying he looks to have come in a year too early, and the poor stats back that up, he needs to grow into his body still.
He's a big boy, he's likely not hitting his peak for a looooong time, we really need some patience here.
Remember, Tage Thompson broke out in his draft + 6 year as a full time NHLer, big boys are always a project.
Son of Donegal
Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.
The thing is, I know about the the questions around Greentree in his draft year and was supportive of the Bruins drafting Letourneau. Bruins Network compared Greentree to Kaliyev on Twitter and look where Kaliyev is right now. However, Greentree is scoring in several different ways and playing dominant hockey THIS year.
It’s not “surface level” to discuss a player when he improve on his weaknesses AND strengths in D+1.
And…while Sweeney didn’t know we would crater as an organization at the time, it shows a lack of foresight to select a player that would need literally everything to go right to contribute in an area of need, like 1-2C.
Was Letourneau the best player available? Were Greentrees weaknesses insurmountable? What would need to happen for Letourneau’s growth to continue in D+1?
These are valid questions.
Sweeney’s team drafted Letourneau and gave him their blessing to go to BC. I am sure he has learned a few things there…but he certainly hasn’t played a lot of meaningful hockey.
Is that surface level?
MarchysNoseKnows
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I wasn’t necessarily going at you there - lots of comments just looking at his point totals. And many people act like Letourneau was going off the board (like, say, Lohrei) when he was ranked around there everywhere.
Up until this year people pined for Kaliyev. And I was told recently by many on here you can’t evaluate a draft pick for several years. But if Letourneau was putting up 75 points in the Q this year everyone would be fawning over him.
Letounreau might be a great pick, he might be a bust. No one knows yet. So what if he has 3 assists at BC, or if he was in the USHL with 1.5 ppg? It really doesn't matter until/if he get to the Bruins and plays for them (or some other NHL team). Then we'll know. I am certainly not going to wring my hands with anxiety over Letourneau's lack of production at this stage.
Son of Donegal
Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.
Nor I, especially with Letourneau. This is more a question about how a player is developed, I guess. But on the end, it doesn’t matter if the kid gets where he needs to be to be successful.
The don godfather
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Now poitras back to providence darn. Hope he finds his game only lohrei looks legit from all the current prospects this team has.
Ok, make me a list of aaaaaaall the players that scored 3 assists in college, then went on to be prime contributors in the NHL. That’s “so what”.
Maybe he blows the roof off next season, but it’s not looking good.
If Stats don’t matter, why do we track them? Per chance because they tell you something about the player?
The whole, “…but have you watched him?” argument is tiresome. No!!!! When the player starts putting up numbers, maybe folks will tune in for a game. Until then, what’s in the oven smells like turd, and I’ve seldom had a good meal that started off smelling like turd.
I’m not saying the guy’s a 100% bust or that his career is over after one bad season, but you’re lying to yourself if 3 assists isn’t a bad season for a 1st round draft pick. Guys get drafted out of college in the first round, and they sure have more than 3 assists. This guy got drafted and then went to play college. If this was his draft year, does anybody imagine him going in the 1st round? 2nd?
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It's funny for me of all people to be accused of ignoring stats lol.
There has to be context to them. Letourneau skipped a year - he went to college instead of what 99% of kids who go to college do, and that's play juniors. No one, least of me, is saying that he's had a good year. But those in the know knew this would be a struggle year for him, especially a guy at his size adjusting to the pace.
Also have to look at where he came from - he wasn't in juniors last year, or the NDTP. He was playing high school hockey. To compare him to Greentree because Greentree is doing what he's doing in the O is crazy. Not the least of which is they're not remotely the same kind of player.
Letourneau was a long term project, and it's proving to be true. Weren't many people at all on draft day saying they should have drafted Greentree instead.
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