Prospect Info: Bruins Prospects XXIII

[bobber]

If the Bruins get into the 1st round, it would be cool if they could draft Iginla, but I highly doubt he gets by the Flames. What other centers would be available in the mid to late 1st round?

Canadian Michael Hage. Kid was drafted by Kitchener Rangers but went on to play for the Chicago Steele of the USHL. probably go late first round. Scouts say he makes every line he plays on better.

 

[UncleRico]

Can we get someone’s perspective besides divver? If it were up to him brown would be an every day NHL player.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Just not an nhl players in my opinion. Not good enough for top 6, not tough enough for bottom six. He will end up having a decent career in Sweden eventually I believe.

He’s 21.

Can we get someone’s perspective besides divver? If it were up to him brown would be an every day NHL player.

We got Anthony’s (BruinsNetwork)

 

[UncleRico]

He’s 21.


We got Anthony’s (BruinsNetwork)

He seems infinitely higher on lysell than divver

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

He seems infinitely higher on lysell than divver

Also infinitely lower on Patrick Brown

 

[Son of Donegal]

It's going to be a really important camp for Lysell. I am not sure he needs to have a "Poitras" level camp...but he needs to come in looking like a pro - like he belongs. It would be unfair to expect him to play at the level he was at before his injury - but he has to make it clear to his peers that he is ready to play impactful hockey.

The Bruins need speed and skill just as much as they need toughness.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

It's going to be a really important camp for Lysell. I am not sure he needs to have a "Poitras" level camp...but he needs to come in looking like a pro - like he belongs. It would be unfair to expect him to play at the level he was at before his injury - but he has to make it clear to his peers that he is ready to play impactful hockey.

The Bruins need speed and skill just as much as they need toughness.

I agree with this. i don't believe he will have any chance of making the team out of camp (barring injuries), but I do think he needs to establish himself as the guy who gets the first chance if an injury causes an opening on the top 6.

Also, i would say the same is true for Merkulov if he is still here then

 

[Dr Quincy]

We got Anthony’s (BruinsNetwork)

When the pendulum swings too far in the other direction.

 

[Saxon Eric]

When the pendulum swings too far in the other direction.

He's the Ying to the fellowship of the miserables Yang

 

[UncleRico]

If the yang is pro Patrick Brown bring an everyday NHL player then I am team ying.

 

[Tbaybruin]

The top 3 forward prospects are smaller skilled guys. We need a couple of ufa tougher guys to help them along.

 

[wintersej]

He seems infinitely higher on lysell than divver

And Senyshyn.

 

[ODAAT]

It's going to be a really important camp for Lysell. I am not sure he needs to have a "Poitras" level camp...but he needs to come in looking like a pro - like he belongs. It would be unfair to expect him to play at the level he was at before his injury - but he has to make it clear to his peers that he is ready to play impactful hockey.

The Bruins need speed and skill just as much as they need toughness.

he needs to make it impossible for Sweeney and Co to send him back to Providence, won`t be gift wrapped a thing. Let`s see how the kid responds. I think it was Dom I was watching who was hoping he (Lysell) was spending the summer in Boston to train with the B`s staff rather than go home and hang with his buddies, be interesting to know if Lysell is doing just that

 

[LouJersey]

If the yang is pro Patrick Brown bring an everyday NHL player then I am team ying.

I find @DominicT to be the most neutral on Bruins prospects and calls them like he sees them.

 

[DominicT]

I find @DominicT to be the most neutral on Bruins prospects and calls them like he sees them.

The key is not to have bias. I know I've had my share of misses like everyone has. Dustin McFaul, Matias Mantykivi, Reid Dyck, none were offered contracts by the Bruins. That said, when I spoke about them, I often pointed out there were aspects of their game that probably wouldn't translate to the pro game. But then there are guys like Kuntar, Duran where everything translates.

I've been working with a guy and teaching him on the things to look for and he often asks how I don't have bias. Only answer I can give is it takes time and experience.

 

[LouJersey]

The key is not to have bias. I know I've had my share of misses like everyone has. Dustin McFaul, Matias Mantykivi, Reid Dyck, none were offered contracts by the Bruins. That said, when I spoke about them, I often pointed out there were aspects of their game that probably wouldn't translate to the pro game. But then there are guys like Kuntar, Duran where everything translates.

I've been working with a guy and teaching him on the things to look for and he often asks how I don't have bias. Only answer I can give is it takes time and experience.

Well it’s very much appreciated. As someone who doesn’t see many of them regularly it’s nice to have raw scouting reports on guys without the emotion because they are a Bruin property, and I mean that both ways. I think that’s what separates you is you haVE a database on these guys watching them before they are Bruins and your work is all out there. I think it’s kinda normal to overrate a guy or just look at positives when they are picked by the Bs.

 

[DKH]

In the fourth round? Some kid I’ve never seen or heard of.

I was like that in the second (Lohrei) and third (Pelosi)

I try and nail 100 to 120 where I could tell you a lot so the Bruins getting guys that high by me is pretty wild

 

[DKH]

The key is not to have bias. I know I've had my share of misses like everyone has. Dustin McFaul, Matias Mantykivi, Reid Dyck, none were offered contracts by the Bruins. That said, when I spoke about them, I often pointed out there were aspects of their game that probably wouldn't translate to the pro game. But then there are guys like Kuntar, Duran where everything translates.

I've been working with a guy and teaching him on the things to look for and he often asks how I don't have bias. Only answer I can give is it takes time and experience.

You did nail Josh Anderson- he went in 4th and you said he should have gone way way higher

I wish he didn’t make so much he’s only 30 and should have been a Bruins draft pick

Still a fan of his

 

[DominicT]

You did nail Josh Anderson- he went in 4th and you said he should have gone way way higher

I wish he didn’t make so much he’s only 30 and should have been a Bruins draft pick

Still a fan of his

Jason Robertson was still my best. I was told I was nuts and even told I should stop scouting.

Will never forget the debates I got into with Bobby Mac and on here about Olli Juolevi. I didn't think he was anything special. Everyone put too much emphasis on one tournament with him.

But you win some, you lose some.

Anyway, like Lou said, I call them as I see them. That's all you can do.

 

[DKH]

Jason Robertson was still my best. I was told I was nuts and even told I should stop scouting.

Will never forget the debates I got into with Bobby Mac and on here about Olli Juolevi. I didn't think he was anything special. Everyone put too much emphasis on one tournament with him.

But you win some, you lose some.

Anyway, like Lou said, I call them as I see them. That's all you can do.

Oh yahhh….you would call me just to tell me about him and then he goes in second round - and you tell me a lot of people going to be regretting they passed

Boom - that’s the one guy you were relentless on out of all our talks

it’s like he was your kid you always kept going on damn it he is a stud

Even Future Watch that the Hockey comes out with in February 3 or 4 years ago had Studnicka like 41 and Roberson in the 50’s and I’m telling you about it and you kept saying ‘wait Dan’

Julia was aware how much you liked him so she lives in Austin and first Stars game she’s in Pro Shop buying Robertson T shirt & sweatshirt

 

[LouJersey]

Jason Robertson was still my best. I was told I was nuts and even told I should stop scouting.

Will never forget the debates I got into with Bobby Mac and on here about Olli Juolevi. I didn't think he was anything special. Everyone put too much emphasis on one tournament with him.

But you win some, you lose some.

Anyway, like Lou said, I call them as I see them. That's all you can do.

Not sure if you remember but I was having a sim draft and I asked you about Jack Campbell and you said too high for a goalie (I was picking 6th)...You said the guy you want is Jeff Skinner....Of course I didn't listen and had to wait years before I could acquire Skinner lol.

 

[DominicT]

Not sure if you remember but I was having a sim draft and I asked you about Jack Campbell and you said too high for a goalie (I was picking 6th)...You said the guy you want is Jeff Skinner....Of course I didn't listen and had to wait years before I could acquire Skinner lol.

At that time I was with Hockey Prospects. My exact words were: Hall will produce the most points, Skinner will score the most goals and Seguin will be the better all around player.

Injuries kept Hall from reaching that mark.

 

[Number8]

Prospects #1 through #4 are small guys low on physicality. Lol the masses are gonna freak

Very cool sheet btw, enjoying it.

It's interesting to note that the guys with high compete level are all the lower level prospects (like outside the top 8-9). The guys with the more natural gifts don't have as high compete. I guess the really great players are the ones with BOTH.

You wonder what a guy like Brunet with a 10 compete level and some coaching/development on his shot would turn into for example.

Jackson Edward intrigues me.

Reading through Dom's list I'm just amazed at some of the compete level figures. Those players with 6's or below need a complete rethink. Actually it kind of irritates me. You have all that god given talent and you pull a 60% compete???? Yikes. I'd skate through walls if I had the kind of talent to be drafted into the NHL.

Outside of goalies, that would seem to be the easiest thing to nail.

Hockey IQ, Skating, Shot, Puck Moving, Power Play, Penalty Kill, Physicality, Compete Level.

Everything on that list can be improved upon of course. But none can be improved upon as easily as compete level. Physicality next but even that is impacted by skating, size, and personality.

But everyone can try harder. Even Bobby Orr had a second gear!!!!

 

[Dead Coyote]

Prospects #1 through #4 are small guys low on physicality. Lol the masses are gonna freak

Jackson Edward intrigues me.

Boston Bruins Offseason Prospect Update Part 3: The Rankings

PART 1 &nbs…

dom.hockey

Great job IMO.

Not a Bruins fan, I only came here to see if there had been any Providence talk about Regula, since I saw the signing today, but as a Knights fan I guess I have the opportunity to say something about two players.

I haven't watched much AHL since last year (and unfortunately this year most of the games I caught didn't have Regula) but it sounds like Regula hasn't changed much at all since his time with the Knights. Solid defensive-dman who can play a shut down role and has a little bit of bite and physicality to his game. I always thought at best he was a 2nd pair shut down d-man and I dunno if Boston can use him on the 3rd pair, but he should be a competent 3rd pairing D for someone at worst. May take the Harrington road in the NHL. He's still young though so who knows, maybe he still improves and makes more of a name for himself.

Now...as for Edwards. Let me say this. Yes, he has potential to be a good shut down D in the NHL. He has some things to work on and some things that may never be fixable, but he could definitely work on those things and work out for any NHL team.

But there's a reason he was a 7th round draft pick, and he's nowhere close to Regula's level, and I'm not honestly even sure I could say he has higher upside.

Edward's a big man and his skating is okay in straight lines, he has a big stride and can go relatively fast by eating up the ice with his stride. His skating is a little choppy as well. His acceleration isn't the best but is decent. His edgework and agility leave a lot to be desired. He has decent backwards skating but it's not particularly good and his ability to change direction quickly isn't good enough. He's a little slower on his turns than he really should be at the OHL level.

The main problem with him though is twofold, in addition to his skating. First of all, his IQ blows chunks. Definitely some of this can be brought up to experience but he very often tries to do to much, he wants to activate offensively and carry the puck in but often ends up turning it over because his stick handling is not up to snuff. He also pinches at inopportune times a decent amount. Not a huge deal but I'd much prefer he just simplify his game and focus on his strengths. He frequently loses his man and has a hard time dealing with a persistent forecheck in his own zone, his stickwork and strength on the puck are not great and contribute to a lot of turnovers of his. The other thing is that his technical skill just isn't amazing either. He isn't elite at any one thing, nor is it close. His shot is probably his best asset and offensively if he could work on setting up on the point and increasing the speed at which he makes decisions there he could be a great option on a PP.

But again, the main problem with him is that you seemingly never actually want him to have the puck on his stick. His technical passing skill isn't good enough and when he's under pressure he has a real issue with throwing the puck away in dangerous positions. He's generally fine without the puck. He's physical, can definitely handle guys one on one (he sometimes gets walked because of his skating but I wouldn't call that any more of a deficit than anything else to do with his skating), he's definitely the type of guy who you want parked in front of the net that can prevent guys from setting up in the crease.

His issues though, are very glaring. He was routinely a defensive liability for the Knights this season, most noticeably of all in the playoffs and Mem Cup, and he had Sam O'Reilly/Max McCue covering for him routinely and was stapled to Dickinson/George (two of the best defensive d-men on the roster) and he still didn't look great.

I'm probably a little biased as both a Knights fan who has seen him play hundreds of times and still has the memory of his garbage play in the back of my mind from the Mem Cup/Playoffs but I'm also somewhat of a homer in the other way too so...hopefully it balances out?

At any rate he's far below Regula for me and really needs to work on his skating and simplify his game or work his ass off to increase his skills somehow. I hope they both improve and find NHL time with the B's though.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Not a Bruins fan, I only came here to see if there had been any Providence talk about Regula, since I saw the signing today, but as a Knights fan I guess I have the opportunity to say something about two players.

I haven't watched much AHL since last year (and unfortunately this year most of the games I caught didn't have Regula) but it sounds like Regula hasn't changed much at all since his time with the Knights. Solid defensive-dman who can play a shut down role and has a little bit of bite and physicality to his game. I always thought at best he was a 2nd pair shut down d-man and I dunno if Boston can use him on the 3rd pair, but he should be a competent 3rd pairing D for someone at worst. May take the Harrington road in the NHL. He's still young though so who knows, maybe he still improves and makes more of a name for himself.

Now...as for Edwards. Let me say this. Yes, he has potential to be a good shut down D in the NHL. He has some things to work on and some things that may never be fixable, but he could definitely work on those things and work out for any NHL team.

But there's a reason he was a 7th round draft pick, and he's nowhere close to Regula's level, and I'm not honestly even sure I could say he has higher upside.

Edward's a big man and his skating is okay in straight lines, he has a big stride and can go relatively fast by eating up the ice with his stride. His skating is a little choppy as well. His acceleration isn't the best but is decent. His edgework and agility leave a lot to be desired. He has decent backwards skating but it's not particularly good and his ability to change direction quickly isn't good enough. He's a little slower on his turns than he really should be at the OHL level.

The main problem with him though is twofold, in addition to his skating. First of all, his IQ blows chunks. Definitely some of this can be brought up to experience but he very often tries to do to much, he wants to activate offensively and carry the puck in but often ends up turning it over because his stick handling is not up to snuff. He also pinches at inopportune times a decent amount. Not a huge deal but I'd much prefer he just simplify his game and focus on his strengths. He frequently loses his man and has a hard time dealing with a persistent forecheck in his own zone, his stickwork and strength on the puck are not great and contribute to a lot of turnovers of his. The other thing is that his technical skill just isn't amazing either. He isn't elite at any one thing, nor is it close. His shot is probably his best asset and offensively if he could work on setting up on the point and increasing the speed at which he makes decisions there he could be a great option on a PP.

But again, the main problem with him is that you seemingly never actually want him to have the puck on his stick. His technical passing skill isn't good enough and when he's under pressure he has a real issue with throwing the puck away in dangerous positions. He's generally fine without the puck. He's physical, can definitely handle guys one on one (he sometimes gets walked because of his skating but I wouldn't call that any more of a deficit than anything else to do with his skating), he's definitely the type of guy who you want parked in front of the net that can prevent guys from setting up in the crease.

His issues though, are very glaring. He was routinely a defensive liability for the Knights this season, most noticeably of all in the playoffs and Mem Cup, and he had Sam O'Reilly/Max McCue covering for him routinely and was stapled to Dickinson/George (two of the best defensive d-men on the roster) and he still didn't look great.

I'm probably a little biased as both a Knights fan who has seen him play hundreds of times and still has the memory of his garbage play in the back of my mind from the Mem Cup/Playoffs but I'm also somewhat of a homer in the other way too so...hopefully it balances out?

At any rate he's far below Regula for me and really needs to work on his skating and simplify his game or work his ass off to increase his skills somehow. I hope they both improve and find NHL time with the B's though.

Im curious as to why the Bruins waived him and no one picked him up (Rugula). Not so much why the waivers but the fact every team in the league passed on him has me wondering if he ever gets back to the NHL. Is he just an AHL stud.

Edwards looks to bring an element every teams needs that can't be taught, the other stuff can be.

My money is on Edwards having a NHL career