I think when he's doing that it is noticeable. I'm not certain how consistently he is doing that or that he's consistently physical away from the puck. Of course, it's been how long since we've seen him playing enough minutes to be convinced on any aspect of his game?
Which is ultimately the problem. They don't want to waive him because someone will take him, but apparently Brunette doesn't want to play him either. Heck ain't no wonder we've had more than one guy want out of town lately.
I think he does good along the boards and in front of the net. He might not be an overly physical checker but he does a good as far as the other parts of being physical.
At a certain point, I think we just have to waive these guys anyway. Parssinen isn't going to be a better player sitting. I think he was really impressive already... 2 years ago. But 2 years later if we can't put him in the lineup, just let him go try his hand somewhere else. There's a chance nobody claims him. But he's probably not going to get better playing more in the AHL either. Just let him go, I say. Same with Tomasino and Fabbro. There's no point in just having them hanging around being useless to us. Might as well move on, and if the staff is going to like L'Heureux or Del Gaizo better or find somebody else they'll actually consider using... let's get on with it then.
Rip the bandaid off so to speak. Maybe we will get lucky and it wont be Tolvanen part deux.At a certain point, I think we just have to waive these guys anyway. Parssinen isn't going to be a better player sitting. I think he was really impressive already... 2 years ago. But 2 years later if we can't put him in the lineup, just let him go try his hand somewhere else. There's a chance nobody claims him. But he's probably not going to get better playing more in the AHL either. Just let him go, I say. Same with Tomasino and Fabbro. There's no point in just having them hanging around being useless to us. Might as well move on, and if the staff is going to like L'Heureux or Del Gaizo better or find somebody else they'll actually consider using... let's get on with it then.
At this point, I don't think it even matters if it's Tolvanen part deux... or worse. Losing Tolvanen didn't matter to us either. It's no surprise he's an ok player for Seattle, and it won't be any surprise to any of us here if Parssinen, Tomasino, or Fabbro are decent players elsewhere. But at this point, it makes no difference to us, because a) they aren't going to play here, and b) we've tanked their value and waited so long on them that they have no meaningful trade value either.
L’Heureux was a 2021 pick, whereas Pärssinen and Tommer are 2019 picks. So it’s two years from now when ZLH will be hitting the waiver wire at this rate.
Or maybe we can jettison tweeners like McCarron, Smith and Jankowski and give time for the young kids to develop. Why draft kids, spend time developing them and never giving them a chance to develop and shine in the NHL but instead, pick up some former 1st round picks from other teams and keep them in the lineup when they're just not very good.
It's just screaming at the clouds at this point, why bother? I don't think I could be much more apathetic toward this team.
Do you really think that's going to happen? It's not. I have been running in circles on that subject for a few years now, and... it's dead to me now. I'm ready to accept it simply is Not An Option, it's Not Happening. They want the McCarron/Smith/Jankowski guys. It's baked into our team, for better or worse (WORSE!), but if we're fans of this team, I think we're at the point now where for our own mental health we're just going to have to accept it. Whether there are off-ice/personality/whatever considerations which factor into it in ways we as fans can't see or appreciate, ok, that's possible, but for whatever reason we kind of have to accept the team isn't going to change the approach in any forseeable timeline anyway. We're keeping the tweeners, and we're jettisoning any kids which smell even faintly of elderberries, that's Perdom whether we like it or not.
You'd think after doing the same thing for years and years, someone would learn, especially someone who's won a Cup.Do you really think that's going to happen? It's not. I have been running in circles on that subject for a few years now, and... it's dead to me now. I'm ready to accept it simply is Not An Option, it's Not Happening. They want the McCarron/Smith/Jankowski guys. It's baked into our team, for better or worse (WORSE!), but if we're fans of this team, I think we're at the point now where for our own mental health we're just going to have to accept it. Whether there are off-ice/personality/whatever considerations which factor into it in ways we as fans can't see or appreciate, ok, that's possible, but for whatever reason we kind of have to accept the team isn't going to change the approach in any forseeable timeline anyway. We're keeping the tweeners, and we're jettisoning any kids which smell even faintly of elderberries, that's Perdom whether we like it or not.
Alas.
Or maybe they do know. I am trying not to dismiss that as a possibility. I'm not around the team, don't know the players involved as individuals. Barry Trotz and Andrew Brunette do. They are Hockey People and very invested and close to the situation. I don't dismiss the possibility that they simply Know Something We Don't. While at the same time I don't dismiss the possibility that They Are Dumb Dinosaurs. Regardless of either extreme, as fans we aren't going to know. So.... if we don't want to go crazy, maybe we just have to reach Stage 5 - Acceptance?
I'm never going to accept the fact our GM and Coaches are playing other peoples throw offs and then not give our guys a shot. Heck in Fabbro's case he's already shown to be better than half the Dmen we have on the ice, but because he isn't just exactly the type of Dman Brunette wants apparently he is bad.Or maybe they do know. I am trying not to dismiss that as a possibility. I'm not around the team, don't know the players involved as individuals. Barry Trotz and Andrew Brunette do. They are Hockey People and very invested and close to the situation. I don't dismiss the possibility that they simply Know Something We Don't. While at the same time I don't dismiss the possibility that They Are Dumb Dinosaurs. Regardless of either extreme, as fans we aren't going to know. So.... if we don't want to go crazy, maybe we just have to reach Stage 5 - Acceptance?
I admire the stamina. I think at my age I just don't have that anymore. I want to have fun cheering for my team, not just tilt at the windmills.
I cheer for the logo on the front, not the coaches, not the players, not the GM. I can enjoy watching a game and still tell them they are garbage because I have don't have a " favorite " anything other than that Preds logo.I admire the stamina. I think at my age I just don't have that anymore. I want to have fun cheering for my team, not just tilt at the windmills.
Except Shea scared everyone he was up against with his shot aka missile launcher. Not sure Stamkos has that sort of effect on people.
Exactly. I call it cheering for the laundry. I still have favorites but it's a business. Not going to affect my fandom.
Cheering for the team is fine and good if that works for you.I admire the stamina. I think at my age I just don't have that anymore. I want to have fun cheering for my team, not just tilt at the windmills.
This is the downside of having such poor media coverage that is non-confrontational. Brunette and Trotz would be getting raked through the coals in a larger market for how last season ended and how this one has begun but here they basically get no push back.
I agree. It's like, hey, we're all part of the Preds family, they can do no wrong and we can answer questions that we feel are Preds friendly. I grew up in NY and you want to talk about a different approach. I get guys don't want to lose their media privileges; however, if they're asking legit questions, that's no way to run a franchise and interact with the media. Trotz has been transparent on a lot of levels. Unfortunately, he and Brunette aren't challenged enough by the media.
This kind of questioning would definitely go a long way towards assuaging my current doubts. As things are now, I am just left really in the dark and unsure whether to question the competence of our coach/GM - but not really wishing to lacking our info - or wondering what it is that we are missing. If the franchise has reached a "big league" level, we should be able to have the kind of coverage that isn't just "Preds friendly" by now. Preds have some of the highest ticket prices going. Fans should start demanding a little more access IMO.
Here's the thing, the media is there to ask the tough questions. I get all sports leagues have an air of mystery, especially when it comes to injuries, but at some point, these guys need to be on the hot seat.This kind of questioning would definitely go a long way towards assuaging my current doubts. As things are now, I am just left really in the dark and unsure whether to question the competence of our coach/GM - but not really wishing to lacking our info - or wondering what it is that we are missing. If the franchise has reached a "big league" level, we should be able to have the kind of coverage that isn't just "Preds friendly" by now. Preds have some of the highest ticket prices going. Fans should start demanding a little more access IMO.
