Confirmed with Link: Bruins Acquire Rick Nash for Spooner, Lindgren (rights) 2018 first, 2019 7th and Beleskey

[Mainehockey33]

I hated this trade at first but I’m really coming around to it. I wanted Nash for a few days, let’s see what he can do with Krejci.

I’m sad to see Spooner go, he’s the only Bruin I’ve seen play live in Providence, but with Donato and Koko competing for spots next year for cheaper it lessons the blow.

Looking forward to seeing him play tonight.

 

[Barnum]

Geez all the complaining is ridiculous.

BTW since alot of you are whining about Beleskey’s salary, the Rags are on the hook for 1/2 of Nash’s salary.

.Boston, which on Tuesday sent the Rangers a 2018 third-round pick and Rob O'Gara for Nick Holden, has cap issues, but the Rangers can retain up to 50 percent of Nash's remaining salary, which they're reportedly going to do.

 

[Pia8988]

Using common core math?

Beleskey's cap hit is $3.8 mil per year. Half of that is $1.9, NOT "less than 1 mil".

No. But way to be a condescending douche.

His buried hit was 2.675. Now his retained hit will be 1.9. Either way there would be a player to replace him so that math is irrelevant.

Boston saves 775k next year and 725k the last.

 

[chrisab123]

The players have no choice unless they have a ' NO TRADE CLAUSE ' in their contract. Sometimes the no trade part is only to specific teams etc .

I mean the silver lining here is that if Chia had signed Belesky he’d definitely have to be convinced to waive that NTC today

 

[Alicat]

Krejci healthy in the playoffs is beast mode for me, so I don't worry about this.

Plus with the depth we have now, you can afford guys to have nights off.

We can’t afford guys to have nights off down the stretch and especially if Bergeron is hurt.

 

[Hali33]

I do feel strongly that the 2nd line had to change before the playoffs. It sucks to lose Spooner but he’s the obvious guy to go if he was not in their long term plans. All 3 have been good individually but the line together was not nearly as dominant as they need to be.

They saw the need to address it too and pulled the trigger. I like that. I would have preferred Hoffman but I think there’s potential with Nash on that line.

 

[BruinDust]

Bruins did not give up a single asset that was going to be playing for them next season, not one. Held on to all their kids and came away with a player that will be miles ahead of Spooner. Good deal and even with retaining 50% on Belesky they come out ahead of having to buy him out.

I like the deal but they didn't come out a whole lot further ahead vs. a buyout. He will actually cost them more money next year vs. the buy-out route.

The 2nd year the money is almost equal.

Years 3 and 4 of the potential buy-out is where the real savings are.

 

[Deleted]

Only way a player has a say in a trade is if they have a No trade clause or a no movement clause. You'll see them abbreviated to NTC or NMC. There's a difference between both.

The No-Movement Clause:
A No-Movement Clause prohibits a team from moving a player by trade, waivers, or assigning that player to the minors without the player’s consent. This keeps the player with the pro team unless the player approves one of these moves. The player has the final say. Some players will often have a limited trade list here as well. A No-Movement Clause does not restrict a team from buying out or terminating a player’s contract.

The No-Trade Clause:
A No-Trade Clause is much less restrictive. It only places restrictions on movement by trade. A player with a No-Trade Clause cannot be traded by a team unless the player provides consent. A limited (partial or modified) No-Trade Clause is often less restrictive than a full No-Trade Clause and depends on the conditions negotiated in the player’s contracts. Often with these No-Trade Clauses, the player is asked to provide a list of teams to which he would be willing to be traded or NOT traded to. This list can change or fluctuate from season to season.

Ok that makes sense. Thanks for that.

 

[Alicat]

I don’t like the rental aspect of this deal but I’m willing to give him a chance and will happily eat crow if Nash does well

 

[JOKER 192]

Ok I'm a complete newb to this trading business. Do the players involved have any say in the matter or do they just have to do what they are told? Could Spooner for example say that he doesn't want to go to the Rangers or is it tough sh*t?

Unless a player has a no trade or no movement clause in his contract , ya, that's pretty much it you have no choice in the matter.

 

[Smitty93]

I think people are getting a little too hung up on the Spooner part of the trade. With Nash coming in, he wasn't going to be a part of the lineup, which means the best decision was to trade him. You could have traded him for say a 2nd + prospect (I don't think you were getting a 1st for him). Instead of that sort of return, I imagine Sweeney preferred to just add him to Beleskey to get at least part of his contract out of here.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Ok that makes sense. Thanks for that.

You're welcome. And guys get those clauses when they go into contract discussions.

 

[Bridges31]

I’m excited to see what Nash can do but I’m just not a fan of this trade. Especially if they don’t do something to improve their D.

 

[maxbme]

I think the trade makes even more sense with this in mind. Nasty forward group


Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Nash
Heinen-Backes/Donato-Backes/Donato
Schaller-Nash-Kuraly

OR


Marchand-Bergeron-Nash
Debrusk-Krejci-Pastrnak
Heinen-Nash-Backes
Schaller-kuraly-Donato

Cassidy will have a lot of fun playing with these lines.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I like the deal but they didn't come out a whole lot further ahead vs. a buyout. He will actually cost them more money next year vs. the buy-out route.

The 2nd year the money is almost equal.

Years 3 and 4 of the potential buy-out is where the real savings are.

In years 3 and 4, isn't that mostly when our guys start coming up on contracts? I'm not looking at anything right now.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I will be very happy if Rick Nash makes me look foolish. He’s got all-World talent. I’m rooting for him

At the very least, you'll appreciate his efforts. He creates a lot of chances and does not take a shift off. Keep in mind - even at 7.8M, Ranger fans never really soured on him. He's a great guy, great teammate and works hard. He has a bad wrap because his scoring hasnt been up to potential, but he brings more than just that to the table.

 

[Trizz617]

I really hope so. I’ve never been big on Nash but I hope he lights it up. Could be downright dominant with Krejci and DeBrusk

The potential is there for that line to be a puck possession nightmare for the opposition.

 

[Greek_physique]

We can’t afford guys to have nights off down the stretch and especially if Bergeron is hurt.

It's pretty much impossible for everyone to play at an elite pace every night.

Some players will be off

 

[Alicat]

I think the trade makes even more sense with this in mind. Nasty forward group


Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Nash
Heinen-Backes/Donato-Backes/Donato
Schaller-Nash-Kuraly

OR


Marchand-Bergeron-Nash
Debrusk-Krejci-Pastrnak
Heinen-Nash-Backes
Schaller-kuraly-Donato

Cassidy will have a lot of fun playing with these lines.

Well that changes a lot

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

We can’t afford guys to have nights off down the stretch and especially if Bergeron is hurt.

Don't think for one second that beating they took last night didn't push DS. He had to know this team is not good enough for a long run.

Don't let that score fool us, we looked like we didn't belong on the same ice as that team last night

 

[Gator Mike]

Yeah, both Spooner and Nash were just keeping that spot on Krejci's wing warm for someone like Donato or Bjork.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

The potential is there for that line to be a puck possession nightmare for the opposition.

That line with Spooner had some really dominant stretches after the all star break, so adding a better possession player does give me some hope

 

[cobrak]

End result: Bruins are a better team and improved their chances for the Cup.

This.
They made two moves for people who have produced in the playoffs (Holden and Nash) And when I mean produced I mean have experience and were not Benched or sitting in the pressbox for the games (Belesky and Spooner)

While I like Spooner his commitment to forechecking and fighting for the puck is very hit or miss although it was better this year. There was no way the Bruins were going to want to pay him 3+ million that he would want as a RFA this Summer.

Belesky is a long term deal to save in years for a buyout. Instead of paying 50% for 2 years instead of 4 years. This is huge for two years from now when a couple of our youngsters will be looking for raises.

Losing Lindgren and the pick are not that bad considering how stocked they are with D youth and the current state of the teams contracts. As much as I love growing talent Sweeney rightly sees this as one of the years to go for it and gave up some value to get some playoff vets.

 

[BruinDust]

In years 3 and 4, isn't that mostly when our guys start coming up on contracts? I'm not looking at anything right now.

Starting with year 2 they will need money for young guys, but it will roll into years 3 and 4.

Even still the savings isn't massive (essentially 1 million each year off the cap).

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I like the deal but they didn't come out a whole lot further ahead vs. a buyout. He will actually cost them more money next year vs. the buy-out route.

The 2nd year the money is almost equal.

Years 3 and 4 of the potential buy-out is where the real savings are.

Just in time when the crap hits the fan with some of the ELC