Confirmed with Link: Bruins Acquire Rick Nash for Spooner, Lindgren (rights) 2018 first, 2019 7th and Beleskey

[GloryDaze4877]

Can someone please explain the salary retention part of the deal . Cap friendly has the Bruins paying 1.9M for this year and the next two but also has the Rangers paying .875M this year and 3.8 for the next two. That can't be right.

I don’t think it is.

They also have Brendan Smith at his full salary in the “buried” column next to Beleskey. Maybe they just put them there until they know where the guy will be?

For example, if Beleskey is in the AHL next year at $1.9m, then the Rags are “burying” $1m roughly in addition to his AHL salary. If he’s on the NHL roster, all $1.9m goes there.

I think it’s just a paperwork thing?

 

[LSCII]

I assume no chance he plays today ?

They announced he'd be in Buffalo and available, so it sounds like he's playing.

 

[Alicat]

I’m really having trouble with this being a rental player and nothing more.

Beleskey and Lindgren are fine with me but Spooner for an overpriced rental really gets me.

I’m all for trading Spooner but I wanted someone with equal or more term in return.

My other concern is Nash’s tendancy to disappear like Krejci for stretches of time.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Do I think we gave up "a lot"? Yes.

Am I happy that we finally have a GM willing to go for impact players, instead of low upside grinders, at the trade deadline? Yes.

 

[Deleted]

Ok I'm a complete newb to this trading business. Do the players involved have any say in the matter or do they just have to do what they are told? Could Spooner for example say that he doesn't want to go to the Rangers or is it tough sh*t?

 

[bob27]

I wonder what happens to that retained salary if Rangers buy out Beleskey's contract in the summer.

 

[Greek_physique]

Literally hate that idea. Seen them play together too many times with zero chemistry to want to see that again.

Agreed, but it just gives you another option...previously we didnt have that at all.

I like the flexibility we have in our top 9.

If we could get a more complete 3rd line center, that would be enough.

 

[NeelyDan]

Literally hate that idea. Seen them play together too many times with zero chemistry to want to see that again.

yeah, this hasn't worked at all from what I recall in past experiments

 

[DarrenBanks56]

I’m really having trouble with this being a rental player and nothing more.

Beleskey and Lindgren are fine with me but Spooner for an overpriced rental really gets me.

I’m all for trading Spooner but I wanted someone with equal or more term in return.

My other concern is Nash’s tendancy to disappear like Krejci for stretches of time.

we have guys ready to come in next year. wd have bjork cehlarik donato etc. spooner is easily replaceable

 

[s3antana5757]

Do I think we gave up "a lot"? Yes.

Am I happy that we finally have a GM willing to go for impact players, instead of low upside grinders, at the trade deadline? Yes.

I'd like us to get a GM that gets impact players WITH TERM. We've literally been trying to solve for Krejci's RW since Horton left. Through Iginla, Eriksson, Spooner, now Nash we just keep tossing band-aids on it. All of the wasted assets and salary dollars over the years hurts long-term.

 

[BruinDust]

Solid move for the Bruins. They are a better team today than they were yesterday.

And they did it without trading really any of their top prospects.

I like Lindgren, but of the 4 young D in the system (Lauzon, Zboril, Vaak) he had the lowest upside, and was probably the furthest away from helping the Bruins. So thats a win for Boston not giving up any of the other 3.

Ryan Spooner has played very well in Boston, but he's got arbitration rights this summer and can walk away as a UFA in 2019. Spooner out, Nash in, that's makes the Bruins a better team for this season at least. So it your looking at possibly a quarter season of Nash for a season and a quarter of Spooner, who wasn't likely to be extended long term by Boston in 2019 with the other, young and more important players needing new contracts at that time.

The 7th rd. pick is a wash.

Dumping Beleskey is good. It was widely assumed that the Bruins would of needed a 1st rounder alone to dump his entire contract. So they dumped 50% and saved themselves a buyout this summer. Money-wise vs. the buyout, the real savings is what would of been the 1 million cap hit in 2020-21 and 21-22.

So their 1st rounder is gone, but they've had lots of picks the last few years, and getting a top rental forward without giving up really any of their top prospects is the biggest thing for me. The deal is done, the Bruins are a better team today, and the cupboards are still fully stocked.

 

[maxbme]

These numbers make me pretty optimistic. I think Nash will bring scoring depth the Bruins really need. Do not mind the price at all. Gives more flexibility next year, and a guy like Bjork, Cehlarik, donato, even a dark horse like senysyhn, really has a chance to come grab the spot.

 

[Mantis]

I hate this. Rick Nash is lazy and straight up awful.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[BruinDust]

I'd like us to get a GM that gets impact players WITH TERM. We've literally been trying to solve for Krejci's RW since Horton left. Through Iginla, Eriksson, Spooner, now Nash we just keep tossing band-aids on it. All of the wasted assets and salary dollars over the years hurts long-term.

Where are all the teams trading impact players WITH TERM?

You want to make that deal, your going to have to send back your own impact players with term.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Ok I'm a complete newb to this trading business. Do the players involved have any say in the matter or do they just have to do what they are told? Could Spooner for example say that he doesn't want to go to the Rangers or is it tough sh*t?

Only way a player has a say in a trade is if they have a No trade clause or a no movement clause. You'll see them abbreviated to NTC or NMC. There's a difference between both.

The No-Movement Clause:
A No-Movement Clause prohibits a team from moving a player by trade, waivers, or assigning that player to the minors without the player’s consent. This keeps the player with the pro team unless the player approves one of these moves. The player has the final say. Some players will often have a limited trade list here as well. A No-Movement Clause does not restrict a team from buying out or terminating a player’s contract.

The No-Trade Clause:
A No-Trade Clause is much less restrictive. It only places restrictions on movement by trade. A player with a No-Trade Clause cannot be traded by a team unless the player provides consent. A limited (partial or modified) No-Trade Clause is often less restrictive than a full No-Trade Clause and depends on the conditions negotiated in the player’s contracts. Often with these No-Trade Clauses, the player is asked to provide a list of teams to which he would be willing to be traded or NOT traded to. This list can change or fluctuate from season to season.

 

[Absurdity]

Ok I'm a complete newb to this trading business. Do the players involved have any say in the matter or do they just have to do what they are told? Could Spooner for example say that he doesn't want to go to the Rangers or is it tough sh*t?

Tough shit, unless a player has a no trade clause or no movement clause as a part of their contract. Spooner does not have that.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Using common core math?

Beleskey's cap hit is $3.8 mil per year. Half of that is $1.9, NOT "less than 1 mil".

He means that the Cap hit while he was in the AHL was about 2.8M. So that is a little less than a 1M saving.

 

[Trizz617]

I like the trade. Bruins get a big-time winger for Krejci. That line is going to be fun to watch. Also:

Others may have their doubts, but I believe this move will pay immediate dividends for us!

 

[MAINE-IAC]

Ok I'm a complete newb to this trading business. Do the players involved have any say in the matter or do they just have to do what they are told? Could Spooner for example say that he doesn't want to go to the Rangers or is it tough sh*t?

The players have no choice unless they have a ' NO TRADE CLAUSE ' in their contract. Sometimes the no trade part is only to specific teams etc .

 

[HustleB]

If he is good enough I would love to see if he would come back on a 1 or 2 year deal for cheap money. First I want to see him but it sounds like he might even be cheaper than Spooner to bring back. That is good value if he could be another veteran responsible two way player that could presumably move up and down the lineup.

Cautiously optimistic about the type of trade I used to hate. ☺

 

[Bruin1970]

We get a 27(!) goal scorer for a 4th line center who was being forced to play wing...and who was not going to be resigned.

Oh..and got rid of the albatross Beleskey. Amazing. How he got this done without giving up Senyshyn I don't know. Spooner is a probably the 4th option even on the Rags. Who knows- they might be able to sign Nash cheap for next season. Even for a rental this was a great deal.

The Carolina goal is nasty. Who on the Bruins currently can do this?

 

[Greek_physique]

I’m really having trouble with this being a rental player and nothing more.

Beleskey and Lindgren are fine with me but Spooner for an overpriced rental really gets me.

I’m all for trading Spooner but I wanted someone with equal or more term in return.

My other concern is Nash’s tendancy to disappear like Krejci for stretches of time.

Krejci healthy in the playoffs is beast mode for me, so I don't worry about this.

Plus with the depth we have now, you can afford guys to have nights off.

If the playoffs started today, do u have confidence in Spooner doing anything? I don't

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

I will be very happy if Rick Nash makes me look foolish. He’s got all-World talent. I’m rooting for him

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Ok I'm a complete newb to this trading business. Do the players involved have any say in the matter or do they just have to do what they are told? Could Spooner for example say that he doesn't want to go to the Rangers or is it tough sh*t?

Depends on the contract. For example, Nash had a clause in his contract that would allow him to select certain teams that he would not allow himself to be traded to. Spooner did not have that clause in his contract so for him it's tough shit.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Ok I'm a complete newb to this trading business. Do the players involved have any say in the matter or do they just have to do what they are told? Could Spooner for example say that he doesn't want to go to the Rangers or is it tough sh*t?

Yeah unless you have a no trade or limited trade clause pretty much tough sh*t