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UrbanImpact said:
If Boeser is moved it means the Canucks are the following:

1. Committed to a full rebuild that will be centred around Pettersson Hughes Demko

or

2. Committed to JT Miller and will look to re-sign him when he is a free agent in 2 years at the age of 30.


For the record, I dont think the Canucks are looking to move Boeser, instead i believe they will move Miller.

For the sake of entertaining the thread, If Boeser is moved it will be for a Dman and it will like be attached with someone that can alleviate some cap space for the Canucks.

Send him home

Boeser
Tyler Myers

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Dumba
Greenway
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Minnesota's only route through the buyout years is to promote prospect wingers like Boldy and Beckman into spots currently occupied by players like Fiala and Greenway. Trading for Boeser would be a dead end for the Wild.
 
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Heinola/Wheeler as a base? Heinola is NHL ready and plays the right side. He is dominating in the A and is landlocked behind our D core. Wheeler, while he has declined, can play middle 6 and PP. His contract expires when Heinola ELCs runs out so salary is manageable. I’m sure peg would need to add to balance out Wheeler and his age/contract
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Heinola does nothing for Vancouver. We need a big right handed D man that’s a shut down guy, not more offensive left side D man we already have Hughes, OEL and Rathbone. Trades need to work for both sides, this trade solves nothing for Vancouver and makes us a much worse team with Boeser gone.
 
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iFan said:
Heinola does nothing for Vancouver. We need a big right handed D man that’s a shut down guy, not more offensive left side D man we already have Hughes, OEL and Rathbone. Trades need to work for both sides, this trade solves nothing for Vancouver and makes us a much worse team with Boeser gone.
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Thank you for this post. People need to at least pretend to consider what the other team has for needs in a deal. Canucks are set at centre with EP, Horvat, and if needed, Miller. We have Boeser, Garland, Hoglander, Miller as top 6 forwards, with Podkolzin looking to make the jump in the next year. Our top 4 LD are set, as are our goalies.

If the Canucks are dealing one of their young forwards, it won't be to replace them with lesser players and futures, it will be to fill the gaping holes on the roster: 3rd pairing LD that can PK, Top 4 RD that can PK.

No, they are not trading core pieces with retention for late firsts and spare parts.
 
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BCNate said:
Thank you for this post. People need to at least pretend to consider what the other team has for needs in a deal. Canucks are set at centre with EP, Horvat, and if needed, Miller. We have Boeser, Garland, Hoglander, Miller as top 6 forwards, with Podkolzin looking to make the jump in the next year. Our top 4 LD are set, as are our goalies.

If the Canucks are dealing one of their young forwards, it won't be to replace them with lesser players and futures, it will be to fill the gaping holes on the roster: 3rd pairing LD that can PK, Top 4 RD that can PK.

No, they are not trading core pieces with retention for late firsts and spare parts.
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Bingo
 
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Marino has a contract that is a little high AAV IMO. But not enough to move him as he is a young RD with smarts and moxie. Petts is playing well and I move him for a prospect and pick and pick up cap space. Riikola and or POJ can play the 3rd pairing.
 
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Gstank said:
Just curious how is he is valued around the league right now

Here are some of our needs
Top 4 RHD
Top 9 RH C
Top 9 Player with a Physical prowless
C who can win faceoffs and PK
Near NHL ready prospects
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Oilers offer Barrie + Ryan +Benson
 

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You guys know he has done a whole lot of nothing the past 3 seasons so him getting more than 5mill a yr is a joke. He never hit 30 goals a season and now he deserves 6.5mill?
 
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I'd be shocked if Rutherford trades Boeser. Canucks are in a groove right now.

Remember the key ingredient (besides Travis Green) to our downfall? The off-season of 2020, trading away well liked pieces in the room.
 

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BWJM said:
I'd be shocked if Rutherford trades Boeser. Canucks are in a groove right now.

Remember the key ingredient (besides Travis Green) to our downfall? The off-season of 2020, trading away well liked pieces in the room.
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The Canucks made bad bets in 2020.

Tanev, he was coming off his first full healthy season in over 4 or 5 years. Always missing 20 odd games a year, which is why in 2019, they signed Myers.

Markstrom, due to the ED and Demko's bubble performance, was expendable. But, he got hurt before the TDL. Toffoli they got him at the tdl.

The bad bets that off-season were:
Not fully believing in Demko, thus adding $4.9 mill cap hit on Holtby vs getting a veteran former #1 like a retained Dubnyk that SJ got, or signing someone in the $2.5 mill range.
They also bet on Virtanen to take a step forward, but he went the other way. Funny, of their 2 2014 draft picks, they basically, trusted the wrong one. But, clearly, you could see Demko putting in the work and Jake being Jake. That's $2.55 mill in cap space.

And the Schmidt transaction didn't work out. Green couldn't get the best out of him in his sytem.

The guy to keep was Tanev. Even replacing Jake's roster spot with a $1 mill player, that still would leave around $4 mill left.

A big failure of Benning was not being able to send the final year of Sven Baertschi to LA instead of an expiring Schaller contract in the TT deal. That cost them $2.2 mill in dead cap after burying him in the A. Even retaining 1/3 to 1/2 still saves them $600K to $1.2 mill vs the cap over burying him in the A. That would have been enough to secure Tanev back.

And in this off-season, would mean that they don't sign Hamonic and/or Poolman. Go with a RHD of Tanev, Myers, and run with Burroughs/Schenn on the 3rd pair at 12-13 minutes a game.
 
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I hope the Canucks can use this below-average season to lock him up long term at a better deal, because any trade would be a sell-low scenario where the best player in the deal is Boeser.
 

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The new coaching staff is finally giving him a role that he's suited for. I can see Brock Boeser (maybe not this year, but the following years) hit career highs.
 
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Bazeek said:
Minnesota's only route through the buyout years is to promote prospect wingers like Boldy and Beckman into spots currently occupied by players like Fiala and Greenway. Trading for Boeser would be a dead end for the Wild.
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It's an $8 mill jump in dead cap from the Suter/Parise buyouts for next season. That's 10% of the cap just for the jump, in addition to the $4.7 mill they are eating this season.

Seems like it virtually has to be rentals if Minny is pushing for it this season.
 
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Siludin said:
I hope the Canucks can use this below-average season to lock him up long term at a better deal, because any trade would be a sell-low scenario where the best player in the deal is Boeser.
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His QO is $7.5 mill. Canucks would have the option to take him to arbitration and the maximum drop from that QO offer is 15%, which off $7.5 mil is like $1.0375 mill, so down to $6.36 mill. That is around a $500K increase from his current AAV. But, that would be the maximum and have to see how the remainder of the season goes for him, but that's a lot to make up for the poor first quarter of the season for him.

For any of the guys like Boeser, Miller, Horvat, it's more than just money for their next deal. It has to be about winning. See how frustrated Miller was with the losing on the last 5 game trip about whether the team was all on the same page. he's been in playoffs with NYR and TB and the bubble with Van. So, he wants to play in the playoffs, same with Bo. He's endured the entire Benning era, started in the NHL with JB as his GM. I think he would want to win as well. So, why would either commit their UFA years this off-season and put their trust in an organization that could have made these sweeping changes in the off-season, but didn't only to see the disaster of a start and then clean house?

Boeser, is UFA in 2024, so 2 years after this season. He may also just say, QO it to UFA and see how it goes.

You an always request a trade, but it limits your destinations.
 
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4chanhoc said:
You mean the same Barrie that Oilers fans have proclaimed about desperately wanting to get rid of him for his terrible defensive play?
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That's the one..
He does have more points than Boeser so there is also that.
 
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