Confirmed with Link: Brian Daccord, Special Asst. to Bill Armstrong resigns.

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This speculation is completely pointless with the amount of information available. There are dozens potential reasons I could give that make his statement true and believable. And certainly a bunch that would mean the Coyotes are a mess and he’s running for the hills.
With BA now in charge, and if Daccord still thinks the Coyotes are a mess and he's running for the hills, we might as well join him.
 

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No you are wrong. We need guys that are the same type of player but much better at what they do. Richardson and Stepan were not missed. Time has past them by.
As is/was time for those on the back end. You’re trying to split hairs here.
 

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Sometimes the real answer is the simplest one.

:dunno:

Then we should be able to ask the simple question of how long does he expect to be in Arizona to help BA, instead of having higher expectations that get sunk. All because management assumed he would be on board for longer than a pregnancy.
 

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With BA now in charge, and if Daccord still thinks the Coyotes are a mess and he's running for the hills, we might as well join him.

And that is precisely why this is scary. You owned some restaurant franchises, so you know that not everyone is meant to stay. But a position that high up - if you are looking for a manager of one of your newer locations, you are coming from an expectation that the manager will be there for at least a year or two. Or you have plans that after 6 months of quality sales performance, they stay with you but get promoted to a different store.

The same should apply here.

That it happened after 8 months tells me 1 of 3 things:

1. General disagreement between Daccord and Armstrong (or other employees)

2. Getting burnt out, which implies that the scope of work is much greater than initially hired for

3. The organization, as a whole, is a bigger mess than what was foreseen and this is the most logical way out.

All suck, but for #1, it can happen, even though it is unexpected. For #2, sometimes you have to know that there is more work that you have to get into to make a difference, and it is what you signed up for.

#3 is the scariest because then it lends creedence to the Strang hitpiece where not all is right with the organization. Even though many assume that is not to be the case and people are just not used to BA.
 

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And that is precisely why this is scary. You owned some restaurant franchises, so you know that not everyone is meant to stay. But a position that high up - if you are looking for a manager of one of your newer locations, you are coming from an expectation that the manager will be there for at least a year or two. Or you have plans that after 6 months of quality sales performance, they stay with you but get promoted to a different store.

The same should apply here.

That it happened after 8 months tells me 1 of 3 things:

1. General disagreement between Daccord and Armstrong (or other employees)

2. Getting burnt out, which implies that the scope of work is much greater than initially hired for

3. The organization, as a whole, is a bigger mess than what was foreseen and this is the most logical way out.

All suck, but for #1, it can happen, even though it is unexpected. For #2, sometimes you have to know that there is more work that you have to get into to make a difference, and it is what you signed up for.

#3 is the scariest because then it lends creedence to the Strang hitpiece where not all is right with the organization. Even though many assume that is not to be the case and people are just not used to BA.
You’re being a lunatic. I can say that because it’s usually me. But your speculation is bonkers. I can list you out 10 reasons why he may have left that have absolutely nothing to do with the Coyotes. Easy.
 
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Then we should be able to ask the simple question of how long does he expect to be in Arizona to help BA, instead of having higher expectations that get sunk. All because management assumed he would be on board for longer than a pregnancy.

“We” aren’t entitled to ask.

“We” can certainly speculate all we want to however.

Both of Daccord’s sons are with NHL teams in the east. His goalie development business is in Canada. My own personal feeling is BA asked him to come help him get the situation settled here in Arizona and for all we know there might have been an agreement to that that allowed Daccord to go leave if it became too much for him to run his business, help both his son’s development and work the Coyotes at the same time. Given that traveling between the US and Canada the last 9-12 months has been next to impossible without holing up in a hotel room for two weeks after each crossing.
 

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Then we should be able to ask the simple question of how long does he expect to be in Arizona to help BA, instead of having higher expectations that get sunk. All because management assumed he would be on board for longer than a pregnancy.
Infidelity. Mental illness. Suicide attempts. Substance abuse. Family illness. Torched relationships with those closest to him over business failings or corruption. Cancer. Dementia. Super extreme DUIs. Irreconcilable family rifts. Conditional personal or marital agreements previous compromised not being met and serious ultimatums being issued.

You live on planet earth right? Crisis and tragedy strikes all of us who live long enough. We know NOTHING about what happened.

My speculation is absolutely baseless. Which is no different than all of the other speculation here. There’s no point in this conversation unless new details emerge.
 
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“We” aren’t entitled to ask.

“We” can certainly speculate all we want to however.

Both of Daccord’s sons are with NHL teams in the east. His goalie development business is in Canada. My own personal feeling is BA asked him to come help him get the situation settled here in Arizona and for all we know there might have been an agreement to that that allowed Daccord to go leave if it became too much for him to run his business, help both his son’s development and work the Coyotes at the same time. Given that traveling between the US and Canada the last 9-12 months has been next to impossible without holing up in a hotel room for two weeks after each crossing.

So, it sounds to me like this is selective reading/listening. People may have an issue with Craig Morgan, but why would it be considered a "stunning development" if it is known that his time here was meant to be limited? A "stunning" development does not imply that this was something with a "gentleman's agreement" to stay for a short time.

Infidelity. Mental illness. Suicide attempts. Substance abuse. Family illness. Torched relationships with those closest to him over business failings or corruption. Cancer. Dementia. Super extreme DUIs. Irreconcilable family rifts. Conditional personal or marital agreements previous compromised not being met and serious ultimatums being issued.

You live on planet earth right? Crisis and tragedy strikes all of us who live long enough. We know NOTHING about what happened.

My speculation is absolutely baseless. Which is no different than all of the other speculation here. There’s no point in this conversation unless new details emerge.

You at least named things that fit with the idea of "stunning." But, look at every single one of those items mentioned. Why would anyone bring up both the need to be with family and something related to business?

As an example, within 24 hrs, we were aware of Khabibulin's extreme DUI. Within moments of the death of Leighton Accardo, it was known. If someone in family had cancer, there would be a segment on NHL on NBC where they wish for the best.

You said it yourself - in this day and age, there is so much info out there. I do understand the logic of keeping certain things (like illness or death) private. But each one of those elicits reactions from others.

When someone gives two glaringly opposite answers (business items and family), that is usually a sign of saying, "out of respect for those who hired me, I no longer wanted the position any more." Likely due to something that was unexpected with the actual job.

Otherwise, why would it be "stunning?"

This is just taking the information provided at face value and saying that if something were "stunning," yet it doesn't involve health of person or immediate family, and then to also say that it is related to business is the 2+2=5 logic. If something happened to your child, you would say, family first, and take time off from your job. Not say, "I need to go to my family, and also there are business implications to attend to along with a family issue."

If you read through everything that came across Twitter, you would eventually realize that the parts don't logically add up to where this is simply, "Meh, nothing to see and this is solely related to what Daccord says it is."
 

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^^^

The bigger question is if there was an agreement that allowed Daccord to leave whenever he wanted (again, the opposite of what Craig tweeted as a "stunning development,") why make the hire if he is going to be gone in less than a year?

It doesn't add up.
 

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Infidelity. Mental illness. Suicide attempts. Substance abuse. Family illness. Torched relationships with those closest to him over business failings or corruption. Cancer. Dementia. Super extreme DUIs. Irreconcilable family rifts. Conditional personal or marital agreements previous compromised not being met and serious ultimatums being issued.

You live on planet earth right? Crisis and tragedy strikes all of us who live long enough. We know NOTHING about what happened.

My speculation is absolutely baseless. Which is no different than all of the other speculation here. There’s no point in this conversation unless new details emerge.

Since you asked if I live on planet earth, (and if you want to consider this trolling, you can), what does infidelity have to do with both a family issue and a self-run business issue? Infidelity only hits one of those (family issue).

Cause if I didn't know any better, it seems like you are implying that I have no earthly idea what I am saying, but then you actually bring up a reason that does not match with Daccord's response of "spending more time with family and on my own business."

I think you need to think of stunning developments that encompass all of what Daccord said. The only one that makes sense is that he is selling his business and retiring. Which fits along with my thought of being burnt out by what was asked of him here, and he did not want to do it anymore.
 

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^^^

The bigger question is if there was an agreement that allowed Daccord to leave whenever he wanted (again, the opposite of what Craig tweeted as a "stunning development,") why make the hire if he is going to be gone in less than a year?

It doesn't add up.


The answer to that is…. It isn’t our business to know.

Let me ask this question… what’s been the Coyotes’ response? So far it’s crickets, so if something of a Katie Strang nature is behind him leaving we haven’t seen Meruelo tossing out any mean tweets calling him a “quitter” yet.

Sometimes the simple answer is the right one. Why everyone wants to bust out the 3-D chess board over this is becoming absurd.
 
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The answer to that is…. It isn’t our business to know.

Let me ask this question… what’s been the Coyotes’ response? So far it’s crickets, so if something of a Katie Strang nature is behind him leaving we haven’t seen Meruelo tossing out any mean tweets calling him a “quitter” yet.

Sometimes the simple answer is the right one. Why everyone wants to bust out the 3-D chess board over this is becoming absurd.

Very fair point on the Meruelo subject. Remember Chayka asked permission to interview, then it was denied, at which point the question of another interview came up, and it was stated that he told Meruelo it was not hockey related. So, the employer was lied to for the purpose of another job.

Was Armstrong lied to about how long Daccord would stay? No. Because that question was likely never asked by BA. He probably assumed that Daccord was riding shotgun through the whole process and was prepared to be alongside for a while. Especially if this is your first hire for the newly revamped department, what good is it doing to bring in someone who you figure is out in a short time? What message is that sending?

That's where I am saying - this is not a Daccord issue. This is a due diligence from our GM to make sure that we hire someone who is ride or die from moment 1 until a long time from now. That was what we had with Chayka until interest from other parties became available, and Meruelo would not renegotiate, nor let him interview. Totally understand why Meruelo made a point with Chayka. He doesn't have to make a point here because it was "stunning" and therefore, unexpected. Interest from others in Chayka was not unexpected.
 

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The bottom line is people don't leave jobs that they are satisfied in. Daccord knows that the job he has can take him not just anywhere in North America, but anywhere in the globe.

All coaches, management, and players at this level know that. I think that is why this is "stunning." Daccord knew what we were looking for and the work needed to be put in. Sounds to me like he no longer became satisfied with the work in Arizona and used the generic "spend time with family" line. If he has a side business, fine. But the two lines of work (side business and work as special asst to GM) need to be separated. If we didn't understand that he had more invested in that than to the Coyotes, and we hired him anyhow, that is on us.
 

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So, it sounds to me like this is selective reading/listening. People may have an issue with Craig Morgan, but why would it be considered a "stunning development" if it is known that his time here was meant to be limited? A "stunning" development does not imply that this was something with a "gentleman's agreement" to stay for a short time.



You at least named things that fit with the idea of "stunning." But, look at every single one of those items mentioned. Why would anyone bring up both the need to be with family and something related to business?

As an example, within 24 hrs, we were aware of Khabibulin's extreme DUI. Within moments of the death of Leighton Accardo, it was known. If someone in family had cancer, there would be a segment on NHL on NBC where they wish for the best.

You said it yourself - in this day and age, there is so much info out there. I do understand the logic of keeping certain things (like illness or death) private. But each one of those elicits reactions from others.

When someone gives two glaringly opposite answers (business items and family), that is usually a sign of saying, "out of respect for those who hired me, I no longer wanted the position any more." Likely due to something that was unexpected with the actual job.

Otherwise, why would it be "stunning?"

This is just taking the information provided at face value and saying that if something were "stunning," yet it doesn't involve health of person or immediate family, and then to also say that it is related to business is the 2+2=5 logic. If something happened to your child, you would say, family first, and take time off from your job. Not say, "I need to go to my family, and also there are business implications to attend to along with a family issue."

If you read through everything that came across Twitter, you would eventually realize that the parts don't logically add up to where this is simply, "Meh, nothing to see and this is solely related to what Daccord says it is."
Craig Morgan doesn’t know why he left man.
 

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Since you asked if I live on planet earth, (and if you want to consider this trolling, you can), what does infidelity have to do with both a family issue and a self-run business issue? Infidelity only hits one of those (family issue).

Cause if I didn't know any better, it seems like you are implying that I have no earthly idea what I am saying, but then you actually bring up a reason that does not match with Daccord's response of "spending more time with family and on my own business."

I think you need to think of stunning developments that encompass all of what Daccord said. The only one that makes sense is that he is selling his business and retiring. Which fits along with my thought of being burnt out by what was asked of him here, and he did not want to do it anymore.
You’re willing to entertain him lying about both Family and Business but not about one or the other? Or that reckless/disruptive/neglectful behavior/health/crises out here or at home can’t impact both? Family and Business either here or at home? Isn’t it likely his networks are intertwined. It’s humans. They’re messy.

Also, if he just needs a few months away, that’s a pretty big problem. They’ve got to hire a coaching staff, trade some star players, draft the future, and hit some UFA home runs.

Honestly, this is mind numbing. I have no desire to speculate about any of this. Because it’s absolutely absurd to try. That goes for me and it goes for you too.

Sometimes people lie about messy work situations and say it’s a personal issue. Sometimes they don’t bother and they have loud and messy exits. Sometimes people have personal issues and have to leave. They always say “personal issues” in that case.

There’s one one thing can rule out, a messy and acrimonious exit. That didn’t happen. So either he fibbed and left quietly. Or he told the truth and left quietly. Fibbing isn’t more likely than not.
 

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Craig Morgan doesn’t know why he left man.

Read the original post from Twitter. Craig mentions stunning development.

As in, completely unexpected.

Think back to the last time we had a stunning development that was not considered to be a big deal amongst the higher ups. Wasn't that when the talk of player measurements happened, and our owner even said that he didn't see a whole lot to it, and that he didn't think we would even be seriously punished? Three draft picks punishment later and it sure seems like a big deal now.
 
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You’re willing to entertain him lying about both Family and Business but not about one or the other? Or that reckless/disruptive/neglectful behavior/health/crises out here or at home can’t impact both? Family and Business either here or at home? Isn’t it likely his networks are intertwined. It’s humans. They’re messy.

Also, if he just needs a few months away, that’s a pretty big problem. They’ve got to hire a coaching staff, trade some star players, draft the future, and hit some UFA home runs.

Honestly, this is mind numbing. I have no desire to speculate about any of this. Because it’s absolutely absurd to try. That goes for me and it goes for you too.

Sometimes people lie about messy work situations and say it’s a personal issue. Sometimes they don’t bother and they have loud and messy exits. Sometimes people have personal issues and have to leave. They always say “personal issues” in that case.

There’s one one thing can rule out, a messy and acrimonious exit. That didn’t happen. So either he fibbed and left quietly. Or he told the truth and left quietly. Fibbing isn’t more likely than not.

Please explain how infidelity impacts his need to spend time with his business. Go.

Using his exact answer that he gave to Craig - he is going to focus on his family and his business. Focusing on your family during infidelity is wise. Focusing on your business after infidelity seems like priorities would be pretty out of whack if that becomes a focus, due to infidelity.

I think it is safe to say we could cross that one off the list, because he would probably be saying "focus on family" only and 100% of his efforts would be on that.
 
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This thread is simply bizarre.

Friedman dropped 31 thoughts today. If this was anything it would have been in there. It wasn’t.
 
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