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I'm going to miss Burke, probably my favorite GM we've had.

Outspoken, says what's on his mind and loves big trades.

Overall, as he said, we didn't win, plain and simple. IMO they did it backwards. Nonis should have took over in 2008 and Burke now.
 
mapes said:
I'm going to miss Burke, probably my favorite GM we've had.

Outspoken, says what's on his mind and loves big trades.

Overall, as he said, we didn't win, plain and simple. IMO they did it backwards. Nonis should have took over in 2008 and Burke now.
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Agreed, I am gonna miss that, in burke's words, irish man
 
Mess said:
Irony.

The shot at Simmons (and indirectly by extension the Toronto Sun & Sun Media) was in fact one the very apparent underlying reasons (his uncontrollable personality) to maintain emotions and come across professionally when conducting himself in public as a representative of MLSE that got him fired. Many of these media outlets are extensions of/or work under the MLSE corporate umbrella or are advertising/marketing means to generate more revenue for MLSE.

You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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Sun Media, owned by Quebecor, has nothing to do with Rogers or Bell.
 
Mess said:
Irony.

The shot at Simmons (and indirectly by extension the Toronto Sun & Sun Media) was in fact one the very apparent underlying reasons (his uncontrollable personality) to maintain emotions and come across professionally when conducting himself in public as a representative of MLSE that got him fired. Many of these media outlets are extensions of/or work under the MLSE corporate umbrella or are advertising/marketing means to generate more revenue for MLSE.

You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Publicly insulting the media deserved or otherwise needs a corporate filter that requires diplomacy something of which the "Burke brand" simply doesn't have and as Burke arrogantly stated has no plan of changing.

The fact that each time ownership changes and he is shown the door should be a life lesson to learn from previous mistakes opportunity as to what will get you fired above the results of the team.
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The media is suppose to be a helping fan not a hand that feeds you, they are to help the common people get a view on a higher up personnel. That is all, nothing more nothing less.

Simmons on the other hand is a scavenger that goes on the hunt for news and articles than even among his own peers is known to be distasteful. Starting from the going to the mother of Riemer to accusing Burke's personal life.

Also if he was wise enough to keep his job clean and respectable, he would have gotten the exclusive interview with Burke rather than Cox who did for the Toronto star.

edit: If I am correct, Anselmi also stated sun isn't owned by rogers or bell.
 
Clark4Ever said:
Fair enough, but a degenerate like Simmons doesn't deserve to be extended such courtesy. Simmons has never been objective in his analysis of Burke, and he has hit him below the belt on numerous occasions.

Simmons is a disgrace to journalism.
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Off camera and off the record is the time and place to air your differences, not publicly at a nationally televised press conference for all the world to see.

Burke might have won this particular battle, but Simmons won the war as he pushed Burke's buttons to the point that his actions the route of which now behind his dismissal. Simmons still has his job and Burke doesn't so who gets the last laugh?

It reminds me of one of my favourite movies a few good men, when Tom Cruise pushed Jack Nicholson buttons on the witness stand, provoking him into stating "You're damn right I order the code red", and took him down in the process.

That is precisely why Dave Nonis is now in charge of representing MLSE for the Leafs voice, because he would not conduct himself unbecoming to the detriment of the organization he worked for. Burke might make for interesting drama by his antics, but the end result is not appreciated by those to which it matters most and that is the ones who issue his pay-cheque.
 
Dale Lastman from the BoG had enough class to show up for the press conference.
 
Mess said:
Irony.

The shot at Simmons (and indirectly by extension the Toronto Sun & Sun Media) was in fact one the very apparent underlying reasons (his uncontrollable personality) to maintain emotions and come across professionally when conducting himself in public as a representative of MLSE that got him fired. Many of these media outlets are extensions of/or work under the MLSE corporate umbrella or are advertising/marketing means to generate more revenue for MLSE.

You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Publicly insulting the media deserved or otherwise needs a corporate filter that requires diplomacy something of which the "Burke brand" simply doesn't have and as Burke arrogantly stated has no plan of changing.

The fact that each time ownership changes and he is shown the door should be a life lesson to learn from previous mistakes opportunity as to what will get you fired above the results of the team.
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You know, that's not as far out of the realm of possibility, as I would have thought but Sun Media is owned by Quebecor Media and they own a number of specialty tv channels and I wonder just how closely Bell is associated with those entities.
 
Mess said:
Off camera and off the record is the time and place to air your differences, not publicly at a nationally televised press conference for all the world to see.

Burke might have won this particular battle, but Simmons won the war as he pushed Burke's buttons to the point that his actions the route of which now behind his dismissal. Simmons still has his job and Burke doesn't so who gets the last laugh?
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Simmons was insignificant. Even if he did not exist (that would be a dream!) and everything else had happened exactly as it did Burke would have been fired. Don't give Simmons credit that he doesn't deserve, the guy is a dirtbag of the highest order.
 
Mess said:
Off camera and off the record is the time and place to air your differences, not publicly at a nationally televised press conference for all the world to see.

Burke might have won this particular battle, but Simmons won the war as he pushed Burke's buttons to the point that his actions the route of which now behind his dismissal. Simmons still has his job and Burke doesn't so who gets the last laugh?

It reminds me of one of my favourite movies a few good men, when Tom Cruise pushed Jack Nicholson buttons on the witness stand, provoking him into stating "You're damn right I order the code red", and took him down in the process.

That is precisely why Dave Nonis is now in charge of representing MLSE for the Leafs voice, because he would not conduct himself unbecoming to the detriment of the organization he worked for. Burke might make for interesting drama by his antics, but the end result is not appreciated by those to which it matters most and that is the ones who issue his pay-cheque.
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Probably Burke, since he is a multi-millionaire and is STILL being paid by the Leafs.
 
He seemed really angry when he answered that he has to pick his jobs better and that he's been moved out twice cause of changes of ownership. So it's obviously a corporate thing.
 
What, specifically, is Simmons referring to that happened on July 1st 2011 that allegedly ruined his relationship with Burke? Was that the day that Burke slapped him down in the other press conference? Simmons claims they were friends before that (which I highly doubt).
 
colchar said:
What, specifically, is Simmons referring to that happened on July 1st 2011 that allegedly ruined his relationship with Burke? Was that the day that Burke slapped him down in the other press conference? Simmons claims they were friends before that (which I highly doubt).
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Wasn't that when Simmons was against Burke visiting the troops when he "should" have been in Toronto for the start of Free Agency?
 
Ya that smackdown on Steve Simmons was pretty great lol. I wonder what he would've said to Howard Berger. Berger was like Simmons. A real ****** in the media. At least Howie could articulate thoughts though. Simmons is just a murmuring, rambling, bumbling, idiot.
 
Mess said:
Off camera and off the record is the time and place to air your differences, not publicly at a nationally televised press conference for all the world to see.

Burke might have won this particular battle, but Simmons won the war as he pushed Burke's buttons to the point that his actions the route of which now behind his dismissal. Simmons still has his job and Burke doesn't so who gets the last laugh?

It reminds me of one of my favourite movies a few good men, when Tom Cruise pushed Jack Nicholson buttons on the witness stand, provoking him into stating "You're damn right I order the code red", and took him down in the process.

That is precisely why Dave Nonis is now in charge of representing MLSE for the Leafs voice, because he would not conduct himself unbecoming to the detriment of the organization he worked for. Burke might make for interesting drama by his antics, but the end result is not appreciated by those to which it matters most and that is the ones who issue his pay-cheque.
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I think you're overplaying this a little. I don't think it's BB's relationship with the media that got him removed.

He's a strong, bold personality and he's going to rub some people the wrong way. It comes out in the press but he's never said anything that I've found to be particularly distateful. He just tells it like it is.

In my opinion the suits at the MLSE have now decided that they want more say in hockey operations. It wasn't going to happen with Burke so they ditched him.

As for Simmons, I don't blame Burke for saying what he said. He didn't like dealing with him and said as much. He didn't rip him apart publicly, he just let him know in no uncertain terms that he didn't like him. He did it in a benign enough way that I think most people will respect him for it.
 
trickster said:
What exactly was the wording of the shot at SS?
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When asked by Steve Simmons about whether he'd have a hand in assembling the next U.S. Olympic team," Burke looked right at the Toronto Sun columnist and said, "That's the best part about today, Steve, is that I probably don't ever have to talk to you again."
 
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