Brian Burke Presser at 12:00

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When asked by Steve Simmons about whether he'd have a hand in assembling the next U.S. Olympic team," Burke looked right at the Toronto Sun columnist and said, "That's the best part about today, Steve, is that I probably don't ever have to talk to you again."

awesome...

Well done BB
 

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For those getting their panties in a bunch over the Simmons comments.. Chill out, it's just hockey. Don't take your hobby so seriously.
 

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When asked by Steve Simmons about whether he'd have a hand in assembling the next U.S. Olympic team," Burke looked right at the Toronto Sun columnist and said, "That's the best part about today, Steve, is that I probably don't ever have to talk to you again."
Burkie was pretty civil during the whole thing, but case in point, there you have it, the answers to everyone's question as to why he was let go....Simmons brought it out...;)
 

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Simmons was insignificant. Even if he did not exist (that would be a dream!) and everything else had happened exactly as it did Burke would have been fired. Don't give Simmons credit that he doesn't deserve, the guy is a dirtbag of the highest order.

Simmons only one of many examples of Burke's agitators "rats" that push his buttons..

CBC Don Cherry and Ron MacLean regularly also through their opinions outraged Burke and caused him to act unprofessionally in response. CBC HNIC nationwide promotes the Leafs and Burke's antics were not appreciated.

Bottom line being the Burke brand (loud, boisterous, obnoxious, arrogant, self centered, uncontrollable etc) is not transferable to big Corporation image and the reason why they felt the need to silence him. Unfortunately its those very strong A type larger than life personalities which believe they are above reproach that never see it coming.

Type A and Type B personality traits describes two common, opposite, contrasting personality types—the high-strung Type A and the easy-going Type B .. Burke is Type A ,while Nonis is Type B and Bell/Rogers prefers Type B as its voice.
 

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I'll say I'm a Burke apologist if you say you're a media apologist.

Deal?

(Edit: So we're clear, that's a joke.)

Its not about liking nor supporting Simmons its simply explaining why Burke was fired for the way he carried himself publicly and how that rubbed MLSE the wrong way when it comes to corporate branding and image.

When you work for these large billion dollar conglomerations your conduct is not free will based as appropriate behaviour, but rather corporate based and directed instead. A loose cannon as Burke is, is not desirable as we found out this week by his dismissal.
 

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I can only imagine the article simmons will by writing up LOL that tool got OWNED, gonna be sooooo butthurt he wont be able to sit for a week

The best part is how embarrassed Simmons must have been during and after the press conference. I'm sure everyone chuckled in the press room after Burke made his comment, and just imagine the looks Simmons got after the presser while all the media were hanging out. Would have loved to see the look on his face and him sweating afterwards, trying to make like the comment didn't affect him. You know he was just steaming, and most likely will be for a couple of weeks. Love it.
 

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Why did the Leafs agree to him having this presser? In the end, we, as fans, were entertained but Burke didn't look good, nor did new ownership. You'd think they would have just told him to leave and that if he kept his mouth shut he'd get paid. When Wilson was fired he disappeared off the face of the earth. They should have done the same with Burke.
 

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I'm surprised Cherry didn't show up, probably in a stupor:laugh:.

In order to show up in stupor, Cherry would have to know such the definition of such a term.

There are plenty of honest, but ethical writers in Toronto. Simmons' tweet deflecting as such is a shot to those who can actually write.
 

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If the current roster which Brian Burke built and is responsible for stays the same and takes to the ice for this 48 game pressure packed season some of you delusional clowns will know why Burke was fired we stink and are still not a playoff team. We are essentially the same team of scrubs that just pulled off the biggest epic collapse in Leaf history.

Ya Brian Burke was a genius GM who didn't deserve to be fired.:laugh:
 

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Simmons only one of many examples of Burke's agitators "rats" that push his buttons..

CBC Don Cherry and Ron MacLean regularly also through their opinions outraged Burke and caused him to act unprofessionally in response. CBC HNIC nationwide promotes the Leafs and Burke's antics were not appreciated.

Bottom line being the Burke brand (loud, boisterous, obnoxious, arrogant, self centered, uncontrollable etc) is not transferable to big Corporation image and the reason why they felt the need to silence him. Unfortunately its those very strong A type larger than life personalities which believe they are above reproach that never see it coming.

Type A and Type B personality traits describes two common, opposite, contrasting personality types—the high-strung Type A and the easy-going Type B .. Burke is Type A ,while Nonis is Type B and Bell/Rogers prefers Type B as its voice.


I agree, but Simmons himself was insignificant as he was only a very minor part of a much bigger issue with the media.
 

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Simmons only one of many examples of Burke's agitators "rats" that push his buttons..

CBC Don Cherry and Ron MacLean regularly also through their opinions outraged Burke and caused him to act unprofessionally in response. CBC HNIC nationwide promotes the Leafs and Burke's antics were not appreciated.

Bottom line being the Burke brand (loud, boisterous, obnoxious, arrogant, self centered, uncontrollable etc) is not transferable to big Corporation image and the reason why they felt the need to silence him. Unfortunately its those very strong A type larger than life personalities which believe they are above reproach that never see it coming.

Type A and Type B personality traits describes two common, opposite, contrasting personality types—the high-strung Type A and the easy-going Type B .. Burke is Type A ,while Nonis is Type B and Bell/Rogers prefers Type B as its voice.

This ^ finally something i actually agree with you on.

Burke's remarks to Steve Simmoms was uncalled for at this press conference and as another poster pointed out it brought out the confrontational personality character in Burke why as Mess pointed out Bell/Rogers wanted Burke out.
 

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http://www.thestar.com/sports/baske...remains-confident-despite-mlse-upheaval-kelly

He received another gesture of public support — whatever those are worth these days — from the board’s point man, Anselmi, Wednesday.

“Bryan and his team are also in the midst of a building process,” Anselmi told the audience at Burke’s auto da fe. “As long as we continue to see progress, that’s what we want in the process.”

Colangelo is in the last year of his three-year deal, with a team option for a further year in 2013-14. That’s still up in the air.

“I’ve never brought up my situation (to ownership). It’s never been brought up to me,” Colangelo said, shrugging.

What’s the promise going forward? Colangelo isn’t offering one.

“A successful year would be making sure we take another step forward in the process of building a basketball team.”

The opaque nature of that statement gives you some idea why Bryan Colangelo has a job, and why Brian Burke is looking for one.

They like saying sports is a results business. That’s not true. There’s no business that has a higher tolerance for failure. What it is, is a messaging business. Colangelo’s signal talent as an executive is the ability to explain what he’s doing in a way that makes sense.

Out in the real world, where results actually matter, they wait to see how something’s turned out before they decide whether it works or not.
 

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When asked by Steve Simmons about whether he'd have a hand in assembling the next U.S. Olympic team," Burke looked right at the Toronto Sun columnist and said, "That's the best part about today, Steve, is that I probably don't ever have to talk to you again."

Wow, Burke is a major *****. Glad he and his clownshow are gone. Legit hockey question and he can't keep his cool.
 

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If the current roster which Brian Burke built and is responsible for stays the same and takes to the ice for this 48 game pressure packed season some of you delusional clowns will know why Burke was fired we stink and are still not a playoff team. We are essentially the same team of scrubs that just pulled off the biggest epic collapse in Leaf history.

Ya Brian Burke was a genius GM who didn't deserve to be fired.:laugh:

What team got us up to the top of the east in January to begin with?

No one is saying Burke built a Stanley Cup contender. But this team is not as bad as you are trying to make them look.
 

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Wow, Burke is a major *****. Glad he and his clownshow are gone. Legit hockey question and he can't keep his cool.

They're both idiots. Two loudmouth egomaniacs who deserve each other. I wish they'd rent a barn and go at it.
 

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If the current roster which Brian Burke built and is responsible for stays the same and takes to the ice for this 48 game pressure packed season some of you delusional clowns will know why Burke was fired we stink and are still not a playoff team. We are essentially the same team of scrubs that just pulled off the biggest epic collapse in Leaf history.

Ya Brian Burke was a genius GM who didn't deserve to be fired.:laugh:

On paper, the only difference between JFJ/Fletcher's scrubs, and Burke's scrubs, is Kessel. That's it. The rest of the roster is just as bad, but in practice much worse. (tanking vs. narrowly missing the playoffs)
 

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Its not about liking nor supporting Simmons its simply explaining why Burke was fired for the way he carried himself publicly and how that rubbed MLSE the wrong way when it comes to corporate branding and image.

When you work for these large billion dollar conglomerations your conduct is not free will based as appropriate behaviour, but rather corporate based and directed instead. A loose cannon as Burke is, is not desirable as we found out this week by his dismissal.

As Burke said, if you are winning you can be as obnoxious as you want to be. If Burke was successful, and had playoff appearances, do you think he would be let go? A "loose cannon" would be very desirable if you are winning, which probably makes them more of an quirky individual than a loose cannon.

Burke's track record is pretty damned good before Toronto, loose cannons don't win Stanley Cups.

However, you are correct in that no doubt the new regime, run by the private sector rather than the public by default teachers Pension plan, will have their own ideas on accountability.

Pretty good article here on the subject..

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/maple-leaf-sports-and-entertainment-we-are-hitting-the-reset-button/article7265097/

"We are hitting the reset button,” said a source close to MLSE’s board, speaking on condition of anonymity, about the significance of the firing of Mr. Burke. Long-time understudy, Dave Nonis, has been handed the GM reins, but that is more of a battlefield promotion than a deliberate succession plan.

Though BCE and Rogers are now facing heavy criticism for the optics of making hasty moves, the companies are of the belief that if the teams return to winning, “it will cure all blemishes,” the source said.
 

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Wow, Burke is a major *****. Glad he and his clownshow are gone. Legit hockey question and he can't keep his cool.

This ^ but apparantly many Leafs fans liked having a Leafs GM goonshow just pathetic.

Bell/Rogers will be happy that they will now have a GM in place that won't refer to the very newspaper that promotes their various platforms as being good enough for the birdcage.
 
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