Cardiac Jerks
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Read the room.
Most so far have said Pesce for Nylander in a one for one. Adding in Brown going to Carolina (not a player we need) and our potentially high first going to Toronto and you’re not at all in the ballpark.
Value of: Brett Pesce
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Read the room.
Most so far have said Pesce for Nylander in a one for one. Adding in Brown going to Carolina (not a player we need) and our potentially high first going to Toronto and you’re not at all in the ballpark.
The S5
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Svechhammer
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If they have a Bojangles there, we know some serious shit is about to go down
Scott Malkinson
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Pesce is a good player but there is no way he fetches a player like Nylander.
No thanks.
No thanks.
no my question is if you could only choose one of nylander marner or pesce to start building a team around who would you pick. because people are saying the leafs players dont get pesce straight up in a 1 for 1 deal when pesce clearly has no business being mentioned with nylander and marner
"If you only had five letters to select a player, who would you chose?"
...and other dumb ways to compare these three players and evaluate hypothetical trade.
its the only way to evaluate a hypothetical trade. if you know nylander and marner are clearly better players than pesce. then why would pesce hold more trade value.
RodTheBawd
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Are you serious?
well be honest which player would you pick to start a new team with nylander marner or pesce
It's the only way, huh? Ok, so are we talking at the entry draft or more of an expansion draft? Who else can I select from? Do I have any other players already or is this the first pick I get? Do I have a farm system I can call up from? What is the cap and do these three already have a contract? Will they sign with my team? Do they like big market lifestyles or do they want to stay out of the limelight?
Dumb.
Cardiac Jerks
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Ya, c’mon guys - admit it.
He's not. I'd rather have an elite shutdown RHD that has scoring upside and anchors both our PK and can easily play on a 1st pairing for $4M per year for the next 6 years than a holdout primadona RW that has stagnated at 60 points, is likely carried by his center given his current RW went from blah to wow, and likely won't sign for less than $7M per year.
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I'd rather give up Hamilton than Pesce to be honest.
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Why would the Canes trade Pesce? He is signed long term to a great contract, and he is a very good player that plays a position teams will have to overpay for.
agree. id rather have nylander on the leafs showing just how elite of a d-man pesce is when they play each other
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Just sign him by November 21st then.
Good. Can't wait to see his contract.
bleedgreen
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I wouldn’t give up Pesce for Nylander. I’m not arguing really even about value. Pesce is a type of player the canes have needed for some time, and they have him long term on a great deal. If you can’t get it done trading Faulk+ then you can’t get it done and move on.
Cardiac Jerks
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I look forward to watching Nylander burn Pesce over and over again
Might as well go ahead and get the wheelchair ready for after he has his ankles broken.
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We forget that hockey is a business. If you go to an electronics store and can buy a 50-inch TV for $410 or a 65-inch TV for $700, then surely you are considering what you could do with the additional $290. I am a huge Pesce fan and admit Nylander is a better player, but I don't think he is 70% better, which is likely the difference in pay. Same with Marner except he is a 75-inch TV for $800.
So to answer your question: In a salary cap league I would choose Pesce.
Svechhammer
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If Nylander was such a great player, why is it that pretty much every thread in here nowadays devolves into you all coming in with a "so how do we trade Nylander for him"
NotOpie
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So 3 more points do not make a superior or even equivalent defenseman. Brett Pesce is clearly the superior player, even if he scores slightly less. Nutivaara starts significantly more in the O zone than Pesce (56.2% to 49.9%). Pesce's takeaway numbers are vastly superior and his giveaway numbers are equally better. Pesce blocks more shots and, for a guy not know for it, throws more hits. By almost every defensive metric (Nutivaara has a slightly better career +/-), Pesce is the better player.
I'm not aware of Nutivaara's availability, but I'd be very surprised if the Canes gave Pesce up in a trade. All of these discussions have been more about hypothetical value. When it comes down to it, Brett Pesce is super valuable to the Hurricanes and I doubt they are considering moving him....but crazier things have happened.
Sticks and stones may break my bones....
tarheelhockey
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If it helps, in all of their career games against each other so far, the two players are tied at 1 point apiece while the other is on the ice.
