Brent Wallace says Peter Chiarelli will be joining the Ottawa Senators

[HugeInTheShire]

He's back

He's saying that Chiarelli will be apart of the Sens organization, if I was a Sens fand I'd be more worried if he said a part.

Those are very different things.

 

[RickyLafleur]

 

[zar]

Anytime, post-Oilers, I see Chiarelli landing a hockey operations related job with an NHL team it just blows my mind. Maybe he’d decent in certain roles but anything pertaining to evaluating hockey talent and negotiations with other GMs, it would be a huge mistake.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

 

[Chips]

Didn't the Blues suck recently with him as advisor?

That seemed set in motion regardless. They’ve been mixed with good and bad moves before, unless he joined sooner than I remember

 

[Elysian]

As long as he isn't GM, it should be fine. I think he has the tools to be a useful AGM

Serious question, what tools?

 

[Bender]

Serious question, what tools?

I heard he lost a lot of money gambling on pro wrestling...

 

[K1984]

One of the worst GMs in NHL history. A ridiculous amount of boneheaded moves. He’s a complete idiot. And he hasn’t learned his lesson. Recently working for the Blues he gifted a former 1st rounder in Kostin away for nothing. Bad, but not egregious. Egregious would be the moves he made in Edmonton. The Reinhart trade, the Eberle trade, the Strome trade, and more. Word is this egotistical asshole doesn’t like to work with others or take input, he also doesn’t like to do due diligence either, so he’s a lazy egotistical asshole at that. Who the hell doesn’t shop a player like Taylor Hall before trading them? Why did other GMs need to tell him he could have got more from them if he had just let them know the player was on the market.

Unsure what role he’ll take in Ottawa. Fortunately for Sens fans he won’t be the GM, keep him as far from decision making as you can. A good role for him would be Janitor.

I'm still livid at him signing Koskinen to that instant albatross as he was basically already fired.

I'm still uncertain of whatever internal process allowed that to happen at the Oiler office, but my god was that ridiculous. He pretty much started making a series of "f*** you I can do what I want" moves on his way out the door that handicapped the Oilers for multiple seasons afterwards.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Woooooo he's gone from the Blues! Party time!

 

[Breakers]

LOL

The only thing that always comes to mind when I hear Chiarelli's name is "The trade is one for one"

 

[Forgetful]

 

[VainGretzky]

Wut?

Chiarelli was vice president of hockey ops. with the Blues, not the GM. It was Army, who decided to trade Kostin for Samurokov as he wasn't good enough for our main roster and we would probably lose him to waivers anyway.

Chia was the GM when Samorukov was drafted I'm sure Armstrong asked for his input

 

[sabremike]

In the NHL if you are figured in you are figured in for life.

 

[Voight]

 

[Channelcat]

NHL teams are so dumb. How do they make any money?

 

[GrumpyKoala]

People like piling on the guys but realistically there a lineup of worst candidates

So here for the Chiarelli appreciation thread.
On august 16, 2017 he sign Leon Draisaitl to a 8 year, 68 million dollars deal, making it arguably the best bang for bucks nhl contract to this date.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

LOL

The only thing that always comes to mind when I hear Chiarelli's name is "The trade is one for one"

I know you're obviously referencing Hall - Larsson which is hilarious, but I think another series of 1-for-1 trades that are f***ing horrible that isn't talked about enough were Eberle for Strome and then Strome for Spooner.

 

[snag]

People like piling on the guys but realistically there a lineup of worst candidates

So here for the Chiarelli appreciation thread.
On august 16, 2017 he sign Leon Draisaitl to a 8 year, 68 million dollars deal, making it arguably the best bang for bucks nhl contract to this date.

even a broken clock is right twice a day

 

[Voight]

I'm pretty ambivalent about Chiarelli, but I think it's more that when NHL teams evaluate potential candidates for jobs, they factor in the entire body of their work and the recommendations/ feedback/insights of other executives working in the league.

Doug Armstrong is a very successful executive and seems like an uber-smart dude. He saw enough value in having Peter Chiarelli on his staff.

I'd take that as having more value than the opinion of many fans on HFBoards who think the guys who post colourful charts on Twitter should all be elevated into prominent roles within front-offices because look at their colourful charts!

There was a time when this forum thought George McPhee and Lindy Ruff were dinosaurs who shouldn't work in the "modern NHL".

 

[Sasha Orlov]

 

[Voight]

Anytime, post-Oilers, I see Chiarelli landing a hockey operations related job with an NHL team it just blows my mind. Maybe he’d decent in certain roles but anything pertaining to evaluating hockey talent and negotiations with other GMs, it would be a huge mistake.

John Ferguson Junior has a very subpar record as GM yet ever since he was fired by the Lefas hes had high level, jobs such as Director of Pro Scouting, Director of Player Personnel and is currently an Assistant GM in Arizona.

His greatest hits include choosing Justin Pogge over Tuukka Rask, then trading the latter for Raycroft, trading the 13th overall pick and 2 dn rounder for Vesa Toskala.

Once these guys are "in" they have jobs for life, providing they dont break any rules or do anything stupid. (John Chayka being an example).

Paul Fenton lasted a single (from what I understand, he made a lot of bad moves both on & off ice) year as Wild GM and hes still got a cushy job as a senior advisor with the Panthers.

 

[DoubleK81]

Chiarelli is the kiss of death. Sorry Ottawa.

 

[JS19]

The one slim potential that Ottawa had is now dashed.

Of all the hockey men to hire, you pick Chiarelli.

 

[swiftwin]

The "fire Dorion at all costs" crowd is awfully quiet right now...

 

[General Disarray]

Imagine thinking he could be worse than Dorion. Atleast he has integrity. He'd likely come in as president not GM. But hey I am sure all the hf keyboard warriors that don't own a pair of skates that think advanced metrics are more important than having the skill and talent to watch the games would do a way better job.

He absolutely would be worse. Chiarelli's run with the Oilers was one of the worst stretches of GMing ever witnessed in the modern era.