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Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher

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angusyoung said:
Regardless, 1 goal for Dach and Slafskovsky has to be a huge disappointment.
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Big young players usually regression. Byfield struggling this season, Lafreniere took 5 years, Dubois regressed. It's a tough league, takes time. I'm not expecting nothing major until he's 23. Dach maybe 25, he's lost a lot of time to injuries
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Rught, you’d have one guy get 100 and the rest 85…
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The poster claimed someone won the scoring title with 85 points while it never happened.
Which season was the top scorer at 100 and 2nd best at 85?
I see 100, 2 at 89, 1 at 86 and 2 at 85.
It’s like Pacioretty scored 40 goals the year he scored 39.
 
Hacketts said:
You're definitely not wrong.

That's a very hard trade to make from an organizational stand point tho, and leaves a very big hole in the locker room, those heart & soul players don't come around often.

Would we have made it to the finals without Gally? How much do you value that memory of the Vegas game? Because that memory, I'll have for a lifetime. How important is Gallagher to this team right now with his experience? His legs may of fallen off, but he's still an incredibly important of the room, if not more so because he's the last guy from the old group. He's also been one of our best players this year too, interesting to see how many he can pot this year... on pace for 35.. hahaha. I'll be happy with 25.

Silver lining that contract hasn't really screwed us up considering the status of our team, and the cap is on the rise.
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You are joking right? He was freaking garbage that whole run. He should have been a healthy scratch. They sacrificed Tatar but he should have been sitting before him.
 
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Hacketts said:
You're definitely not wrong.

That's a very hard trade to make from an organizational stand point tho, and leaves a very big hole in the locker room, those heart & soul players don't come around often.

Would we have made it to the finals without Gally? How much do you value that memory of the Vegas game? Because that memory, I'll have for a lifetime. How important is Gallagher to this team right now with his experience? His legs may of fallen off, but he's still an incredibly important of the room, if not more so because he's the last guy from the old group. He's also been one of our best players this year too, interesting to see how many he can pot this year... on pace for 35.. hahaha. I'll be happy with 25.

Silver lining that contract hasn't really screwed us up considering the status of our team, and the cap is on the rise.
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I think yes we make the finals without Gally, any half-decent defensive forward would've provided the same.

That said Gallagher isn't a big problem for the rebuild, but he might become one soon depending on what trades/signings we will be doing over the next 1-2 years.
 
BozoTheClown said:
The poster claimed someone won the scoring title with 85 points while it never happened.
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Okay… 87 points.
BozoTheClown said:
Which season was the top scorer at 100 and 2nd best at 85?
I see 100, 2 at 89, 1 at 86 and 2 at 85.
It’s like Pacioretty scored 40 goals the year he scored 39.
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The point is that scoring was way down when Gallagher was at his best. Yeah he was stick with DD as his center but he had Max, PK and Markov helping him. His points are deflated from what they otherwise would’ve been. And we won’t get into Therrien’s stupid system…
 
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You are joking right? He was freaking garbage that whole run. He should have been a healthy scratch. They sacrificed Tatar but he should have been sitting before him.
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Who scored the 1st goal against Toronto in game 7?
Who assisted on the gwg in game 6 against vegas?

Are those not pivotal plays?
or just garbage points?
 
When everyone wants to punt you into retirement but you don't care because your are just a chill guy who is 2nd in goals on the team.

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Still think we should have moved him when he was an asset and not a broken liability. Happy he is playing well this year because the rest of this team isn't with one single exception.
 
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Gallagher/Anderson been our most consistent line. Beck between them next season be great third line.

Dvorak be gone next season. Well Armia and Evans likely too. Kapanen be with team I imagine.
 
How predictable. He's garbage again. It was clear that Hutson and Evans were carrying him earlier in the season.

Bring him to the barn. It's been 5 years overdue.
 
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Gallagher and Dvorak can not be here again next season. Gallagher needs to be moved with 50% retention for another teams problem who we can bury in Laval. Demidov and at least one but likely two of Beck, Kapanen and Roy will need a spot as well. So losing two forwards is a priority and Gallagher and Dvorak are the glaringly obvious candidates that we need to improve on. I want to keep both of Armia and Evans as they are key cogs and nearly irreplaceable on the market.

Gallagher can also be bought out for big savings in the 1st year but complicated with a significant salary in the second years followed by two more cheap years

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Both scenarios are better than keeping him in the lineup and blocking young players while paying him 6.5M........there is a final scenario where we simply keep him and he will have to accept Pezzetta's current role as a 13th forward.
 
Estimated_Prophet said:
Gallagher and Dvorak can not be here again next season. Gallagher needs to be moved with 50% retention for another teams problem who we can bury in Laval. Demidov and at least one but likely two of Beck, Kapanen and Roy will need a spot as well. So losing two forwards is a priority and Gallagher and Dvorak are the glaringly obvious candidates that we need to improve on. I want to keep both of Armia and Evans as they are key cogs and nearly irreplaceable on the market.

Gallagher can also be bought out for big savings in the 1st year but complicated with a significant salary in the second years followed by two more cheap years

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Both scenarios are better than keeping him in the lineup and blocking young players while paying him 6.5M........there is a final scenario where we simply keep him and he will have to accept Pezzetta's current role as a 13th forward.
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Gallagher's lost his wheels sadly but I don't think he's getting moved in a trade. If not LITRetirement, then like you say: buyout.

A good way to think about a buyout is to think how much would the roster replacement cost for the duration of the buyout penalty? Gallagher's buyout caphit is 1.75, 4.25, 1.75, 1.75 over four years -> if we take the highest hit of 4.25, the difference between his cap hit (6.5) and 4.25 is 2.25m. Can we find a player who can contribute what Gallagher does (over a full season) at 2.25m? I think so.

If you want to be more reasonable to the team then take a mean cap penalty of 3m, and the difference with his cap hit is 3.5m. I think we can definitely find a superior replacement at 3.5m.
 
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ReHabs said:
Gallagher's lost his wheels sadly but I don't think he's getting moved in a trade. If not LITRetirement, then like you say: buyout.

A good way to think about a buyout is to think how much would the roster replacement cost for the duration of the buyout penalty? Gallagher's buyout caphit is 1.75, 4.25, 1.75, 1.75 over four years -> if we take the highest hit of 4.25, the difference between his cap hit (6.5) and 4.25 is 2.25m. Can we find a player who can contribute what Gallagher does (over a full season) at 2.25m? I think so.

If you want to be more reasonable to the team then take a mean cap penalty of 3m, and the difference with his cap hit is 3.5m. I think we can definitely find a superior replacement at 3.5m.
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Agreed. It also lets him sign a cheap contract for a contender where he can be buried deep in the lineup and have zero expectations. Edmonton would make a lot of sense, back home and they need the scoring depth. Win-win.

It sucks it has come to this, but that’s on Bergevin and yet again giving a contract based on past accomplishments and ignoring the obvious decline to come.
 
le_sean said:
Agreed. It also lets him sign a cheap contract for a contender where he can be buried deep in the lineup and have zero expectations. Edmonton would make a lot of sense, back home and they need the scoring depth. Win-win.

It sucks it has come to this, but that’s on Bergevin and yet again giving a contract based on past accomplishments and ignoring the obvious decline to come.
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Not to be cold blooded, but if Gally really wants to play on a contender, he should agree to terminate his contract. I think he's more than fine as a 13th forward next season and we need an upgrade on Pezz anyway. Entertain the idea of a buyout next offseason.
 
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