Confirmed with Link: Brassard re-signed (5 years, $5M per)

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You're dreaming if you think any of those are ending up a NYR via UFA.

I'd wager that all of them are re-signed by their respective clubs before getting to July 1st.

I can't imagine Colorado will have the cap space to resign ROR, his entire game plan the past 2 years has been to make it to UFA status ASAP cause he wants to get paid
 
My problem with this contract isn't really the money involved, not necessarily the length either (although it's mostly based around that).

It's the philosophy of accepting Brassard to be the team's 2C for the foreseeable future. A wildly inconsistent player who's strengths are his offensive production, yet hasn't broken the 50 point mark.

Rather, I wouldn't mind him on a 1/2 yr deal. By then the Rangers farm should be replenished and then used to trade for a 1C, which we have been seeing moved more and more often recently (Spezza, Seguin). I know people will mock this, but free agency period is also a legitimate option with Stamkos, Kopitar, Krejci, etc awaiting. Just give these players the cash and they'll sign in NY.
 
My problem with this contract isn't really the money involved, not necessarily the length either (although it's mostly based around that).

It's the philosophy of accepting Brassard to be the team's 2C for the foreseeable future. A wildly inconsistent player who's strengths are his offensive production, yet hasn't broken the 50 point mark.

Rather, I wouldn't mind him on a 1/2 yr deal. By then the Rangers farm should be replenished and then used to trade for a 1C, which we have been seeing moved more and more often recently (Spezza, Seguin). I know people will mock this, but free agency period is also a legitimate option with Stamkos, Kopitar, Krejci, etc awaiting. Just give these players the cash and they'll sign in NY.

I think, luckily, the Rangers aren't buying into your pipe-dream scenario that these guys will be available.
 
Dream big or die trying

Im sure the Rangers will be in on those guys should they become available. Im also sure they can pretty easily unload Brassard at virtually any time.

The flaw in your thinking is that they should've went short-term on Brassard just to get a chance at these guys. I dont think one thing really has anything to do with the other.
 
Im sure the Rangers will be in on those guys should they become available. Im also sure they can pretty easily unload Brassard at virtually any time.

The flaw in your thinking is that they should've went short-term on Brassard just to get a chance at these guys. I dont think one thing really has anything to do with the other.

How many #1 and #2 centers hit the market? I'd rather not roll the dice on that stuff and keep it safe like the rangers did
 
Im sure the Rangers will be in on those guys should they become available. Im also sure they can pretty easily unload Brassard at virtually any time.

The flaw in your thinking is that they should've went short-term on Brassard just to get a chance at these guys. I dont think one thing really has anything to do with the other.

True, I see your line of thinking.

Brassard can be dumped.
 
How many #1 and #2 centers hit the market? I'd rather not roll the dice on that stuff and keep it safe like the rangers did

Not many. And the ones that do are usually in their 30's and past their prime as the Rangers have painfully found out time and time again.

More importantly, this deal does not hamstring the Rangers in the least should an opportunity come along.
 
Playoff performers don't really exist. It's a connotation being used to justify this bad contract. Especially because we're justifying Brassard as a good playoff performer based on a ridiculously small sample size.

In sports we've seen great playoff performers - Cody Ross, Fernando Pisani, Ville Leino. All faded away over the years.


What would have been a good contract?

Who would you have replaced him with?
 
Somene please smack me upside the head. For a second, I thought we signed Brassard instead of trading for Stamkos or signing Kopitar.
 
Playoff performers don't really exist. It's a connotation being used to justify this bad contract. Especially because we're justifying Brassard as a good playoff performer based on a ridiculously small sample size.

In sports we've seen great playoff performers - Cody Ross, Fernando Pisani, Ville Leino. All faded away over the years.

So, how does Nash fit in to that? Playoff performers don't exist. Do players who have trouble in the playoffs not exist either?

Clearly the game changes a bit in the post season. Why would some players not benefit from that change while others have trouble with it?
 
My problem with this contract isn't really the money involved, not necessarily the length either (although it's mostly based around that).

It's the philosophy of accepting Brassard to be the team's 2C for the foreseeable future. A wildly inconsistent player who's strengths are his offensive production, yet hasn't broken the 50 point mark.

Rather, I wouldn't mind him on a 1/2 yr deal. By then the Rangers farm should be replenished and then used to trade for a 1C, which we have been seeing moved more and more often recently (Spezza, Seguin). I know people will mock this, but free agency period is also a legitimate option with Stamkos, Kopitar, Krejci, etc awaiting. Just give these players the cash and they'll sign in NY.

I'd bet almost anything that not one of Stamkos, Koptiar and Krejci reach free agency.
 
The free agent market sucks next summer. Jim Nill wants to keep Spezza who will 32 next June. How many years is Spezza getting from the Stars? That's the same age Brassard will be when this contract expires. Boston is keeping their guy. Dubinsky will be getting close to $6M in his new deal which expires at 35. $5.85M. The summer of 2016 free agent class. Most of those players will be signed by then. Stamkos and Kopitar. Eric Staal will be 32 by the start of the 16-17 season. ROR is the guy who could go to free agency. The 2 year contract takes him to group 3. The Avs wanted Stastny to take a pay cut. Duchene $6 million cap. They will have to pay him more than Duchene to keep him long term. ROR is a stubborn guy. He refused to compromise on the 2 year bridge deal and signed the offer sheet. He is going to free agency again. Pain in the ass.
 
Patrik Berglund: 3/11.5 (3.83 AAV)
Dave Bolland: 5/27.5 (5.5 AAV)
Lars Eller: 4/14 (3.5 AAV)
Grabovski: 4/20 (5.0 AAV)
Leo Komarov: 4/11.8 (2.95 AAV)
Dave Legwand: 2/6 (3.0 AAV)
Jori Lehtera: 2/5.5 (2.75 AAV)
Matthieu Perreault: 3/9 (3.0 AAV)
Paul Stastny: 4/28 (7.0 AAV)
Tyler Bozak: 5/21 (4.2 AAV)
Danny Briere: 2/8 (4.0 AAV)
Matt Cullen: 2/7 (3.5 AAV)
Val Fillpula: 5/25 (5.0 AAV)
Adam Henrique: 6/24 (4.0 AAV)
Cody Hodgson: 6/25.5 (4.25 AAV)
Vin Lecevalier: 5/22.5 (4.5 AAV)
Mike Ribeiro: 4/22 (5.5 AAV)
Steven Weiss: 5/24.5 (4.9 AAV)
Oli Jokinen: 2/9 (4.5 AAV)
Chris Kelly: 4/12 (3.0 AAV)
Jaret Stoll: 3/9.75 (3.25 AAV)

These are all the centers who have signed UFA contracts the last three seasons. I bolded the ones with similar age and/or point production and/or 2nd/3rd line centers.

Most of these guys are absolute zeros, playoff no-shows, perennial losers or in their early 30s when they signed

Berglund and Henrique are the only guys I would take over Brassard. Berglund is a steal for the money, but he's been MIA in three of his four postseasons.

Bozak is very good but never ben playoff tested. Filpulla is going to be 31 and has also been a playoff no-show the last three seasons. He was absolutely horrid against Montreal.
 
Patrik Berglund: 3/11.5 (3.83 AAV)
Dave Bolland: 5/27.5 (5.5 AAV)
Lars Eller: 4/14 (3.5 AAV)
Grabovski: 4/20 (5.0 AAV)
Leo Komarov: 4/11.8 (2.95 AAV)
Dave Legwand: 2/6 (3.0 AAV)
Jori Lehtera: 2/5.5 (2.75 AAV)
Matthieu Perreault: 3/9 (3.0 AAV)
Paul Stastny: 4/28 (7.0 AAV)
Tyler Bozak: 5/21 (4.2 AAV)
Danny Briere: 2/8 (4.0 AAV)
Matt Cullen: 2/7 (3.5 AAV)
Val Fillpula: 5/25 (5.0 AAV)
Adam Henrique: 6/24 (4.0 AAV)
Cody Hodgson: 6/25.5 (4.25 AAV)
Vin Lecevalier: 5/22.5 (4.5 AAV)
Mike Ribeiro: 4/22 (5.5 AAV)
Steven Weiss: 5/24.5 (4.9 AAV)
Oli Jokinen: 2/9 (4.5 AAV)
Chris Kelly: 4/12 (3.0 AAV)
Jaret Stoll: 3/9.75 (3.25 AAV)

These are all the centers who have signed UFA contracts the last three seasons. I bolded the ones with similar age and/or point production and/or 2nd/3rd line centers.

Most of these guys are absolute zeros, playoff no-shows, perennial losers or in their early 30s when they signed

Berglund and Henrique are the only guys I would take over Brassard. Berglund is a steal for the money, but he's been MIA in three of his four postseasons.

Bozak is very good but never ben playoff tested. Filpulla is going to be 31 and has also been a playoff no-show the last three seasons. He was absolutely horrid against Montreal.

Also people have to account that many of these were signed prior to this recent cap raise. If you do out the %'s of these during the year they were signed, you will see that Brassard's deal is either the same or better then many.

Also, Adam Henrique was an RFA when he got that new 6 year deal. Same concept as McDonagh, hence the "discounted" years should be viewed differently, since the Devils bought a majoirty of RFA years not UFA ones, as they did with Brass.
 
The biggest issue facing the Rangers is Marc Staal.

An issue for him. Not the Rangers. He said he wanted a deal done by the summer because he didnt want to go through what Girardi and Callahan went through during the season.

He doesn't have an NMC or an NTC.

Good luck with that.
 
Patrik Berglund: 3/11.5 (3.83 AAV)
Dave Bolland: 5/27.5 (5.5 AAV)
Lars Eller: 4/14 (3.5 AAV)
Grabovski: 4/20 (5.0 AAV)
Leo Komarov: 4/11.8 (2.95 AAV)
Dave Legwand: 2/6 (3.0 AAV)
Jori Lehtera: 2/5.5 (2.75 AAV)
Matthieu Perreault: 3/9 (3.0 AAV)
Paul Stastny: 4/28 (7.0 AAV)
Tyler Bozak: 5/21 (4.2 AAV)
Danny Briere: 2/8 (4.0 AAV)
Matt Cullen: 2/7 (3.5 AAV)
Val Fillpula: 5/25 (5.0 AAV)
Adam Henrique: 6/24 (4.0 AAV)
Cody Hodgson: 6/25.5 (4.25 AAV)
Vin Lecevalier: 5/22.5 (4.5 AAV)
Mike Ribeiro: 4/22 (5.5 AAV)
Steven Weiss: 5/24.5 (4.9 AAV)
Oli Jokinen: 2/9 (4.5 AAV)
Chris Kelly: 4/12 (3.0 AAV)
Jaret Stoll: 3/9.75 (3.25 AAV)

These are all the centers who have signed UFA contracts the last three seasons. I bolded the ones with similar age and/or point production and/or 2nd/3rd line centers.

Most of these guys are absolute zeros, playoff no-shows, perennial losers or in their early 30s when they signed

Berglund and Henrique are the only guys I would take over Brassard. Berglund is a steal for the money, but he's been MIA in three of his four postseasons.

Bozak is very good but never ben playoff tested. Filpulla is going to be 31 and has also been a playoff no-show the last three seasons. He was absolutely horrid against Montreal.

Why would you take Berglund over Brassard? Berglund has always stuck me as painfully average.
 
This Brassard deal is pretty much the going rate for a 40+ point 2C when you consider that 4 out of 5 of the years you're paying for are UFA years.

As for the "PP Specialist" argument, I'd like to see a breakdown of not how many points per 60 minutes Brassard got, but rather how many points he generated per even strength minutes played.

Brassard averaged less than 16 minutes of ice time per game in the playoffs and in the regular season. Take away PP minutes and what are you left with? 12-13 minutes? I'm curious what his stats are going to be if he, MZA and let's say Stempniak are playing consistent 2nd line minutes (17-18) nightly.

I went ahead and did this:

Sources:
http://www.rotowire.com/hockey/player.htm?id=2558
http://www.extraskater.com/player/246/derick-brassard
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/brassde01.html

Brassard scored 45 points in 2013-14 in total, therefore:
He scored 27 points at ES, and 18 points on the PP in 2013-14 in 81 games this year.

Average TOI is 15:48/game, therefore:
Average PPTOI is 3:23/game
ES time is 12:25/game, which is a total of ~1006 ES minutes.

The result is ~0.027 Points/ES minute, meaning Brassard scores 1 ES point per 37 ES minutes.

I hope this math is correct. That is a bit startling

I will say this... Both Stempniak and Lombardi look like they will be better finishers than Pouliot was.. and I'm excited for that. I can see those stats rising.
 
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My problem with this contract isn't really the money involved, not necessarily the length either (although it's mostly based around that).

It's the philosophy of accepting Brassard to be the team's 2C for the foreseeable future. A wildly inconsistent player who's strengths are his offensive production, yet hasn't broken the 50 point mark.

Rather, I wouldn't mind him on a 1/2 yr deal. By then the Rangers farm should be replenished and then used to trade for a 1C, which we have been seeing moved more and more often recently (Spezza, Seguin). I know people will mock this, but free agency period is also a legitimate option with Stamkos, Kopitar, Krejci, etc awaiting. Just give these players the cash and they'll sign in NY.

consider it a 1/2 deal then. It's a moveable contract. If there are ways to make the team better, and the team can afford it, there will be flexibility. As for him being an inconsistent player...I think he gets this kind of contract because he is a consistent player. You can count on 15+ goals and 20+ assists next season, and the bet is you can expect that the next few seasons with potentially some upside, and the downside being limited.
 

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