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I think that’s completely false. He was one of the most loved players by fans and management of this team.

The reason people are so triggered and mad is because of exactly that, he was a player that was so loved here that people were hurt that he didnt want to stay.

Otherwise if he wasn’t liked no one would care. Everyone cares.
He was a bit divisive, moreso the last two years.

Peak fans loving him was probably him kicking the crap out Det and taunting the bench with who wants some, or maybe the tilt with Trouba, but after that, there weren't the defining moments guys like Pageaus playoff hatricks, Turris ot winners, Alfie's hit on Tucker and goal, or the pass by Karlsson to Hoff for a breakaway goal. Those moments really play into how loved a player is,
 
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He was a bit divisive, moreso the last two years.

Peak fans loving him was probably him kicking the crap out Det and taunting the bench with who wants some, or maybe the tilt with Trouba, but after that, there weren't the defining moments guys like Pageaus playoff hatricks, Turris ot winners, Alfie's hit on Tucker and goal, or the pass by Karlsson to Hoff for a breakaway goal. Those moments really play into how loved a player is,

Well you’re talking about some of the most loved players in Sens history (Alfie, Karlsson, Pageau and Turris) so even the fact that we’re comparing him to these players looking at what they meant for this franchise tells you that he was a loved player.

The previous post saying he wasnt loved here isn’t true.
 
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I think that’s completely false. He was one of the most loved players by fans and management of this team.

The reason people are so triggered and mad is because of exactly that, he was a player that was so loved here that people were hurt that he didnt want to stay.

Otherwise if he wasn’t liked no one would care. Everyone cares about this. Whether they want to admit it or not, whether they are mad or not, this is impacting everyone. These emotions you’re seeing are triggered by the fact that he was the most loved player in this market.

And that’s not even debatable.

Yea I doubt management and coaches loved him that much.
 
Well you’re talking about some of the most loved players in Sens history (Alfie, Karlsson, Pageau and Turris) so even the fact that we’re comparing him to these players looking at what they meant for this franchise tells you that he was a loved player.

The previous post saying he wasnt loved here isn’t true.
Yeah, my position is he started off very loved, and it slowly soured

Had we beaten Toronto and he played a big role in it, he's probably got a statue somewhere that I'm toilet papering and egging right now....
 
I think that’s completely false. He was one of the most loved players by fans and management of this team.

The reason people are so triggered and mad is because of exactly that, he was a player that was so loved here that people were hurt that he didnt want to stay.

Otherwise if he wasn’t liked no one would care. Everyone cares about this. Whether they want to admit it or not, whether they are mad or not, this is impacting everyone. These emotions you’re seeing are triggered by the fact that he was the most loved player in this market.

And that’s not even debatable.
I don't know about this. The feelings on Brady in my circle were mixed.
 
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I don't know about this. The feelings on Brady in my circle were mixed.

The only reason for it is because people saw it slipping away with him and that led to many people turning on him. Starting with last 4 Nations where he was 10x better than when he was playing on the team.

But that’s just fans seeing the first cracks of him not being fully commited. Brady the player and the person was loved but people were just sour seeing what was coming.

After last years playoffs people were screaming his name after losing to the Leafs in 6 games I mean it’s clear he was loved. And he knew that.
 
I think a lot of people are going to be extremely angry with Tkachuk, but I see the situation a little differently.

He made the organization aware of his intentions early, giving them the best possible opportunity to maximize the return. He kept things quiet and allowed management to work through the process without unnecessary distractions. He wanted to leave—that’s his right—and at the end of the day, it is what it is. All things considered, the Senators got good value for him. In many ways, his value around the league was higher than his value on the ice, which helped Ottawa secure a strong package given the circumstances. Most one-way 70–80 point players don’t bring back that kind of return.

I also think Tkachuk played a huge role in pulling this franchise out of the gutter. During some very dark years, he gave Sens fans a reason to care. The way he played brought pride back to the fanbase, and in many ways he helped put the organization back on the map. He was one of the first major steps in changing the perception of the franchise. He played with heart, competed every night, and dragged teammates into the fight when there wasn’t much support around him and the team was an absolute mess.

He lived through the trades of players like Stone and Pageau, ownership uncertainty, a change in ownership, front-office turnover, coaching changes, and constant drama surrounding the organization (Loss of 1st rounder, Pinto suspension) . As disappointing as his departure is, those realities matter too. Through all of it, he largely kept doing his job, represented the team well, and was an outstanding player and person for this franchise.

Without Tkachuk, coping with the last seven years would have been a lot harder. We had a player who could score, fight, lead by example, and leave everything on the ice. While others mailed it in at times, he consistently competed and gave fans something to rally around.

There’s a lot to be grateful for. We all knew there was a real possibility he wouldn’t stay, and that’s disappointing. But there’s also a lot to look back on positively. Right now it’s still fresh and emotions are running high. With time, I think more people will appreciate everything he did for this organization, even if the ending wasn’t what anyone wanted.

We are still in a very good position as a team and franchise. We can rebound from this. We have key players and leaders on the team. It’s alright, and we’ll be alright.
 
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I think a lot of people are going to be extremely angry with Tkachuk, but I see the situation a little differently.

He made the organization aware of his intentions early, giving them the best possible opportunity to maximize the return. He kept things quiet and allowed management to work through the process without unnecessary distractions. He wanted to leave—that’s his right—and at the end of the day, it is what it is. All things considered, the Senators got good value for him. In many ways, his value around the league was higher than his value on the ice, which helped Ottawa secure a strong package given the circumstances. Most one-way 70–80 point players don’t bring back that kind of return.

I also think Tkachuk played a huge role in pulling this franchise out of the gutter. During some very dark years, he gave Sens fans a reason to care. The way he played brought pride back to the fanbase, and in many ways he helped put the organization back on the map. He was one of the first major steps in changing the perception of the franchise. He played with heart, competed every night, and dragged teammates into the fight when there wasn’t much support around him and the team was an absolute mess.

He lived through the trades of players like Stone and Pageau, ownership uncertainty, a change in ownership, front-office turnover, coaching changes, and constant drama surrounding the organization (Loss of 1st rounder, Pinto suspension) . As disappointing as his departure is, those realities matter too. Through all of it, he largely kept doing his job, represented the team well, and was an outstanding player and person for this franchise.

Without Tkachuk, coping with the last seven years would have been a lot harder. We had a player who could score, fight, lead by example, and leave everything on the ice. While others mailed it in at times, he consistently competed and gave fans something to rally around.

There’s a lot to be grateful for. We all knew there was a real possibility he wouldn’t stay, and that’s disappointing. But there’s also a lot to look back on positively. Right now it’s still fresh and emotions are running high. With time, I think more people will appreciate everything he did for this organization, even if the ending wasn’t what anyone wanted.

We are still in a very good position as a team and franchise. We can rebound from this. We have key players and leaders on the team. It’s alright, and we’ll be alright.
You're not wrong, but at the end of the day he's a captain who quit and bailed on his own team right as they were taking that next step. And ultimately that's the legacy that he's leaving.
 
You're not wrong, but at the end of the day he's a captain who quit and bailed on his own team right as they were taking that next step. And ultimately that's the legacy that he's leaving.
I think the reason it really leaves a sour taste is because it happened when the team was starting to show promise

When Heatley left, we were trending down and had missed the playoffs for the first time in years

When Spezza left, we were entering a mini rebuild,

When Karlsson left, the team had imploded finishing 2nd last in the league,

When Stone and Duchene left, we were on our way to finishing last in the league.

Tkachuk left a team that was trying to get better, gaining experience and showing progress every year. He caused our set back, he didn't choose to leave because the team was on a downswing.
 
I think a lot of people are going to be extremely angry with Tkachuk, but I see the situation a little differently.

He made the organization aware of his intentions early, giving them the best possible opportunity to maximize the return. He kept things quiet and allowed management to work through the process without unnecessary distractions. He wanted to leave—that’s his right—and at the end of the day, it is what it is. All things considered, the Senators got good value for him. In many ways, his value around the league was higher than his value on the ice, which helped Ottawa secure a strong package given the circumstances. Most one-way 70–80 point players don’t bring back that kind of return.

I also think Tkachuk played a huge role in pulling this franchise out of the gutter. During some very dark years, he gave Sens fans a reason to care. The way he played brought pride back to the fanbase, and in many ways he helped put the organization back on the map. He was one of the first major steps in changing the perception of the franchise. He played with heart, competed every night, and dragged teammates into the fight when there wasn’t much support around him and the team was an absolute mess.

He lived through the trades of players like Stone and Pageau, ownership uncertainty, a change in ownership, front-office turnover, coaching changes, and constant drama surrounding the organization (Loss of 1st rounder, Pinto suspension) . As disappointing as his departure is, those realities matter too. Through all of it, he largely kept doing his job, represented the team well, and was an outstanding player and person for this franchise.

Without Tkachuk, coping with the last seven years would have been a lot harder. We had a player who could score, fight, lead by example, and leave everything on the ice. While others mailed it in at times, he consistently competed and gave fans something to rally around.

There’s a lot to be grateful for. We all knew there was a real possibility he wouldn’t stay, and that’s disappointing. But there’s also a lot to look back on positively. Right now it’s still fresh and emotions are running high. With time, I think more people will appreciate everything he did for this organization, even if the ending wasn’t what anyone wanted.

We are still in a very good position as a team and franchise. We can rebound from this. We have key players and leaders on the team. It’s alright, and we’ll be alright.

It's not all black and white for sure. It is what it is but Brady Tkachuk absolutely mailed in the last 18 months. At a time when true leadership could have made a real difference. He quit when times got tough. I can't respect that.

I have no idea what his motivations were but I am not going to have fond memories of a guy who made $8M a year and still quit on his teammates. So long dipshit.
 
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I watched U.S players getting asked the same types of questions in their U.S home rinks regarding the women's team stuff, partying with Ka$h and WH/SOTU. Everyone survived.

At the end of the day Brady is kind of dumb - like most hockey players really.

He had no idea how to handle the questions. When he says it's an honour to go to the WH, just tack on a simple "I know the President has said things that are annoying and insulting to Canadians. I get it. He is a well known Troll and shouldn't be taken too seriously. Anything close to that would indicate to fans that he 'gets it'.

A lot of disagreements are like that I think. "I don't need you to agree with me, but I would like to hear that you understand my point of view". He didn't display that.

oh well. didn't really respond to what you said, but now I can go back to thinking of how to misspend all our draft picks.
American coming in peace to share his perspective on the WH/SOTU thing. At the risk of getting political, I do not like the guy they visited for that nor any of the "51st state" talk from him, but I think blaming the players for attending misses a more systemic problem with my country.

I think this whole controversial political fallout of the USA men winning gold exposes the utter idiocy of America combining the political head of government and ceremonial head of state roles into a single office that is the Presidency. Because of this, ceremonial events like this run the risk of getting politicized. Visiting the White House would be a standard ceremonial event, such as the Miracle on Ice team visiting Jimmy Carter, so it makes sense that the players would want to take part in an event to commemorate their accomplishments. But it's much better to have an apolitical head of state for ceremonial functions like this to prevent what occurred in February. Ka$h in the locker room was also a whole new level of idiocy that I was enraged about.

I don't really judge players much on their decision to attend or not attend the White House. Whatever the case, it's just them trying to make the most in the stupid American setup of having the head of state and head of government as the same person, known as a Presidential system of government. In the fallout of this, I've learned I like Parliamentary systems more, of which Canada is one.

Also, hoping my Lightning take it to the Panthers next year in the Battle of Florida for you guys!
 
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I think a lot of people are going to be extremely angry with Tkachuk, but I see the situation a little differently.

He made the organization aware of his intentions early, giving them the best possible opportunity to maximize the return. He kept things quiet and allowed management to work through the process without unnecessary distractions. He wanted to leave—that’s his right—and at the end of the day, it is what it is. All things considered, the Senators got good value for him. In many ways, his value around the league was higher than his value on the ice, which helped Ottawa secure a strong package given the circumstances. Most one-way 70–80 point players don’t bring back that kind of return.

I also think Tkachuk played a huge role in pulling this franchise out of the gutter. During some very dark years, he gave Sens fans a reason to care. The way he played brought pride back to the fanbase, and in many ways he helped put the organization back on the map. He was one of the first major steps in changing the perception of the franchise. He played with heart, competed every night, and dragged teammates into the fight when there wasn’t much support around him and the team was an absolute mess.

He lived through the trades of players like Stone and Pageau, ownership uncertainty, a change in ownership, front-office turnover, coaching changes, and constant drama surrounding the organization (Loss of 1st rounder, Pinto suspension) . As disappointing as his departure is, those realities matter too. Through all of it, he largely kept doing his job, represented the team well, and was an outstanding player and person for this franchise.

Without Tkachuk, coping with the last seven years would have been a lot harder. We had a player who could score, fight, lead by example, and leave everything on the ice. While others mailed it in at times, he consistently competed and gave fans something to rally around.

There’s a lot to be grateful for. We all knew there was a real possibility he wouldn’t stay, and that’s disappointing. But there’s also a lot to look back on positively. Right now it’s still fresh and emotions are running high. With time, I think more people will appreciate everything he did for this organization, even if the ending wasn’t what anyone wanted.

We are still in a very good position as a team and franchise. We can rebound from this. We have key players and leaders on the team. It’s alright, and we’ll be alright.

If he had gone out playing balls-to-the-wall, I think a lot of people would agree with you.

But the last two years, last year especially, he was not the same guy. There was always the questions: "is it the injury? is he saving himself for the Olympics? is he done with this franchise?".

Knowing what we know now, I think it's become clearer that the Olympics and having one foot out the door played a big part of why it looked like he didn't give a shit on many nights.

That's what leaves a very sour taste in people's mouths. It's one thing to mail it in on a bad team, like Karlsson did in his last year.

But we were a good team.
 
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