Value of: Brady Tkachuk

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Matthew Tkachuk, 1 for 1

Not before Brady is traded to Calgary 1st

 

[NyQuil]

Two more goals tonight.

13 points in 9 games.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Ok, but what happens when Illitch finally realizes that they Yzerplan is crap? Stevie got impatient with losing and tried to fast track things with July 1st cast off's. So instead of being horrible, they were just bad and didn't get any of the real high end picks they should have. Coulda had Cooley, got Kasper instead. Coulda had Michkov, got Danielson instead. Edvinsson is nice, but Power coulda been the perfect Yin to Mo's Yang. Combine that with the misses, Cossa is no Wallstedt and then there's Zadina of course, yikes. Seider & Raymond are not enough to build a winner with

You’re right, Cossa is no wallstedt, he’s significantly better

 

[HaNotsri]

Sabres:

Peterka
Kulich
Jokiharju
2025 1st

I get that it would take something special but after the Skinner buyout, can we really afford to trade Peterka? Especially if you include Kulich as well. Even after adding Tkachuk our top 6 would suck if you trade Peterka.

I'd rather throw in Byram or Cozens.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The Kings are trying to build around Byfield, Clarke, Turcotte. Turcotte is finally healthy amd is starting to look like the 5th OA pick they used on him.


Turcotte has been the Kings best player this season by a decent margin. Turcotte is definitely not on the Tkachuk level but LA would be trying to add Tkachuk to their young core. Not remove the core for a piece. That's why I said they don't have what Ottawa wants/needs

Tuecotte 23 years old in his D+ 6 with 1G and 4pts in 9 games is looking like a 5th overall pick?

LA future is in horrible hands if that’s who they’re building around

 

[Paddys Pub]

Pettersson + a bit

 

[KingsOfCali25]

Tuecotte 23 years old in his D+ 6 with 1G and 4pts in 9 games is looking like a 5th overall pick?

LA future is in horrible hands if that’s who they’re building around

Watch a game instead of stat casting because you'll see he's better than the stats show. He's also the leader in +/- for LA. All while playing his first real season of hockey while being healthy off 3 major concussions.

LA future has been in horrible hands because of the GM (Blake) and President of Hockey operations (Luc) and not because of the players. Zero goaltending, weak defense, no high end scoring talent and awful trades (Faber+1st for Fiala, Vilardi+ for PLD).

 

[nbwingsfan]

Watch a game instead of stat casting because you'll see he's better than the stats show. He's also the leader in +/- for LA. All while playing his first real season of hockey while being healthy off 3 major concussions.

LA future has been in horrible hands because of the GM (Blake) and President of Hockey operations (Luc) and not because of the players. Zero goaltending, weak defense, no high end scoring talent and awful trades (Faber+1st for Fiala, Vilardi+ for PLD).

A 23 yo with 4pts in 9 games while being pretty horrible and injury prone every year prior has very little trade value.

Nevermind being a cornerstone piece not worth trading for Tkachuck

Utterly wild people are still using +/- as a relevant stat in 2024

In 2011 Justin Abdelkader had a better +/- than Zetterberg, who was actually a -1

Lidstrom won the Norris at -2

It means nothing.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

A 23 yo with 4pts in 9 games while being pretty horrible and injury prone every year prior has very little trade value.

Nevermind being a cornerstone piece not worth trading for Tkachuck

Utterly wild people are still using +/- as a relevant stat in 2024

In 2011 Justin Abdelkader had a better +/- than Zetterberg, who was actually a -1

Lidstrom won the Norris at -2

It means nothing.

What is not going through your head? For a prospect that has been injury prone not being able to practice or play for years. Having 4 points in 9 games while playing 4th line mostly is decent stats for his first true NHL season.

I'm not saying he is worth more than trading for Tkachuck. I'm saying it's stupid to trade for Tkachuck by opening more holes in their next core when they could move others.

Ottawa would probably want something like Clarke, Turcotte, Fiala, pick for Tkachuck. It's a bad move for LA (and their future) and most likely a bad move for Ottawa (for their present and future).

The Kings should be looking to move Fiala, Danault, Moore, Gavrikov, and Kempe (only for a massive offer). Not the kids!

 

[cowboy82nd]

Brady will join his brother in 4 years in Florida..
I bet he won't sign anywhere else.

Lundell
Rodrigues
first 2026

In four years the 2026 draft would of happened already. Plus, I personally wouldn't trade Lundell straight up for Brady. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Sabres:

Peterka
Kulich
Jokiharju
2025 1st

Deal

 

[Barsky]

You’re right, Cossa is no wallstedt, he’s significantly better

Not good enough to be getting one way money for the next two seasons apparently, but ok

 

[Der Jaeger]

I get that it would take something special but after the Skinner buyout, can we really afford to trade Peterka? Especially if you include Kulich as well. Even after adding Tkachuk our top 6 would suck if you trade Peterka.

I'd rather throw in Byram or Cozens.

Ottawa has to be motivated to trade. Buffalo will need to trade value.

 

[Barsky]

Matthew Tkachuck was a 100pt player when traded.

Brady will never be that


Are you just going for the record of most outlandish and homer posts ever made in a season?

First Will > Swayman

Now Knies the 2nd best power forward in the world?

Patiently waiting for Liljegren > Makar post from you

Maybe not, he doesn't quite have his bro's offense, nor his paychecks though and his bro doesn't have his size. Given their sizes and contracts, their value is pretty close even with Matthew's higher offense. Recency bias reigns supreme though, so we'll see how this year goes, so far it's Brady in the lead by a decent margin

Timothy Liljegren and nic Robertson seem to be available

Ya, worthless players tend to be available pretty much 24/7

 

[Barsky]

In four years the 2026 draft would of happened already. Plus, I personally wouldn't trade Lundell straight up for Brady. Just my 2 cents.

Ya, a lot of people would prefer a 13 goal guy over a 37 goal one, makes total sense

 

[Barsky]

What would classify as multiple great pieces? Any past trade you can remember that would give a good example? The J Eichel trade but a little deeper? What other trades would fit?

I just don't see the Sens trading Tkachuk. Canadian hockey fans are crazy and we don't have the right amount of patience to rebuild IMO. This is not just about the Sens.

Ottawa went full teardown and rebuild 5 years ago, so apparently we do have the patience

 

[nbwingsfan]

Maybe not, he doesn't quite have his bro's offense, nor his paychecks though and his bro doesn't have his size. Given their sizes and contracts, their value is pretty close even with Matthew's higher offense. Recency bias reigns supreme though, so we'll see how this year goes, so far it's Brady in the lead by a decent margin


Ya, worthless players tend to be available pretty much 24/7

Extra size means very little when they’re both extremely physical players

 

[Barsky]

Extra size means very little when they’re both extremely physical players

Incorrect, it means alot, the bigger you are, the more mass you have, therefore the less impact that said physicality has on your body. Case in point, Matthew's injury history vs Brady's. Matthew has already missed half the Cats' games this year, or in other words, he's missed more games in the last 3 weeks than Brady has in the last 6 seasons. The most important ability is availability

 

[PatrickMcC]

The only acceptable deal for Sens is an offseason move of Tkachuk+ for an extended Rantanen or similar caliber move. Not interested in futures.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I agree 100 percent.



Do you think the Senators would trade Brady for one of those straight up?

Only if the sens actually wanted to move him then yes. If the sens ever move Brady they need a superstar in return. The sens have built for years, the fans have been patient. The team at this point would never move Brady for a package of futures.

 

[TeamRenzo]

The only acceptable deal for Sens is an offseason move of Tkachuk+ for an extended Rantanen or similar caliber move. Not interested in futures.

Rantanen is a great player but what is he going to want on his next contract? Probably $10M+

 

[VikingAv]

Rantanen is a great player but what is he going to want on his next contract? Probably $10M+

More like 12+, actually.
Don't expect him to have a higher AAV than Mack, but most Avs fans will be surprised if he comss in below a 12 million AAV.

 

[SensontheRush]

Deal

Eww

That deal could flunk out into being simply Tkachuk for Peterka. And we'd deserve it too, trading Brady in-division and at all, for that matter.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

What is a swap for Rantanen going to do for the Sens?

 

[dgibb10]

Maybe not, he doesn't quite have his bro's offense, nor his paychecks though and his bro doesn't have his size. Given their sizes and contracts, their value is pretty close even with Matthew's higher offense. Recency bias reigns supreme though, so we'll see how this year goes, so far it's Brady in the lead by a decent margin


Ya, worthless players tend to be available pretty much 24/7

On the one hand, Matthew is good for about 20 points more a year. On the other hand, Matthew has an extra 2 years of term. On the other other hand, Matthew is excellent defensively while Brady sucks.
It's not close.

The only acceptable deal for Sens is an offseason move of Tkachuk+ for an extended Rantanen or similar caliber move. Not interested in futures.

Trading Tkachuk+ for a player's UFA rights would quite possibly be the worst move of all time.