Value of: Brady Tkachuk

dirtydanglez

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contenders would be all over tkachuk is he was available. I'd expect something like a 1st, best prospect, and another 1st/2nd.
 
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Both of them together might b the start of an acceptable package, but let's be real, what would it cost to get Hischier or Hughes? Think along those lines
This was exactly what I was expecting to see in here.

Tkachuck might be the most overrated player in the NHL right now.

Hes a very good player, but he’s just a PPG player given a ton of offensive opportunities

For being such a “leader” he’s sure led the Sens to nothing but disappointment
 

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This was exactly what I was expecting to see in here.

Tkachuck might be the most overrated player in the NHL right now.

Hes a very good player, but he’s just a PPG player given a ton of offensive opportunities

For being such a “leader” he’s sure led the Sens to nothing but disappointment
There's a reason every fanbase mentions him in trade proposals. Though you aren't completely wrong about him, the thing is, he is exactly what every GM wants. As such, if he ever were available(which he isn't), 31 teams would line up to make offers. That's just reality, his trade value exceeds his actual value, a very rare thing indeed. Look at the haul his brother got and then realize that Brady could absolutely rag doll Matthew & they both know it.

Cup champion Palat. + a 6th if need be.
Devils would need to include a first and a second just to dump Palat anywhere and you know that
 

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Knies is about at the same spot Tkachuk was at 22 and just as good at the physical hockey. Knies is likely to be the best or 2nd best power forward in the game the way he is developing those tools.

Knies does nothing when he is not with Mathews or Tavares. B Tkachuk produces no matter who is on his line.

Tkachuk >> Knies. You are reaching. Knies will probably be a top 6F but Tkachuk is a 1st line star.
 
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Whatever makes the team better. Many ways to do that. Whether it's one amazing piece or multiple great pieces.

And not really a rebuild but a reset.

Brady is the guy we can afford to trade and get a massive return for.

What would classify as multiple great pieces? Any past trade you can remember that would give a good example? The J Eichel trade but a little deeper? What other trades would fit?

I just don't see the Sens trading Tkachuk. Canadian hockey fans are crazy and we don't have the right amount of patience to rebuild IMO. This is not just about the Sens.
 

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Yup, Blue brain rot confirmed, wow

Which part specifically am I being a homer about?

Knies does nothing when he is not with Mathews or Tavares. B Tkachuk produces no matter who is on his line.

Tkachuk >> Knies. You are reaching. Knies will probably be a top 6F but Tkachuk is a 1st line star.

Tkachuk is probably more talented. But he has always played with good players in the top 6. Knies has been used from the top line to the 4th line so far in his career.

My point I guess is, Leafs already have a guy in that role who is cheaper. Brady hasn't exactly shown he is all that considering his defensive issues and not being able to even make the playoffs nevermind show he can perform there. Knies in his young career has shown he is clutch in those moments.

I think the Leafs are better off keeping Knies and using any assets/cap on other places instead like 2C
 
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Which part specifically am I being a homer about?



Tkachuk is probably more talented. But he has always played with good players in the top 6. Knies has been used from the top line to the 4th line so far in his career.

My point I guess is, Leafs already have a guy in that role who is cheaper. Brady hasn't exactly shown he is all that considering his defensive issues and not being able to even make the playoffs nevermind show he can perform there. Knies in his young career has shown he is clutch in those moments.

I think the Leafs are better off keeping Knies and using any assets/cap on other places instead like 2C

Leafs can't fit Tkachuk in. We agree there. No need to haul Knies in this conversation. He's on a good development but leave the kid alone. Let him grow in piece and not compare him to Tkachuk.
 
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Barsky

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Which part specifically am I being a homer about?



Tkachuk is probably more talented. But he has always played with good players in the top 6. Knies has been used from the top line to the 4th line so far in his career.

My point I guess is, Leafs already have a guy in that role who is cheaper. Brady hasn't exactly shown he is all that considering his defensive issues and not being able to even make the playoffs nevermind show he can perform there. Knies in his young career has shown he is clutch in those moments.

I think the Leafs are better off keeping Knies and using any assets/cap on other places instead like 2C
Claiming Knies will be the best power forward in the league is exemplary Blue brain rot homerism, I'm sorry to say. And if we're being honest, the Leafs spend now and have for years, far more than any other team on their forwards, while all but ignoring their D. One of the big 4 should have been dealt long ago in order to better balance the ratio of money up front to money in back. The very well used term "defense wins championships" seems to be all but lost on Toronto, so their playoff record should not surprise anyone. The Shanaplan, much like the Yzerplan, is clearly pretty flawed at this point, and this from a guy that loved both of them in their playing days
 

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Claiming Knies will be the best power forward in the league is exemplary Blue brain rot homerism, I'm sorry to say. And if we're being honest, the Leafs spend now and have for years, far more than any other team on their forwards, while all but ignoring their D. One of the big 4 should have been dealt long ago in order to better balance the ratio of money up front to money in back. The very well used term "defense wins championships" seems to be all but lost on Toronto, so their playoff record should not surprise anyone. The Shanaplan, much like the Yzerplan, is clearly pretty flawed at this point, and this from a guy that loved both of them in their playing days

A lot of this is unrelated to the post (and outdated and wrong. Pretty big consensus the issue is lack of scoring in playoffs not defense).

As for Knies being the best, we will see but he has discovered he is stronger than anyone else and powers his way to the net every single game. He has destroyed someone every single game. Really soft hands lets him play with skill guys. I could see him being a PPG player in a few years with those tools yeah that is probably top 2 for me.

If you haven't watched him I recommend you do he is awesome to watch
 

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Sens probably say no but this is something around what we would offer. If it's any one of Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Demidov, Hutson, we likely pass. Maybe Dach would be on the table.

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Honestly very tempting. Even with Reinbacher's injury concern, he's still a very safe prospect. Habs first being unprotected could very well be an excellent piece.
 

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Honestly very tempting. Even with Reinbacher's injury concern, he's still a very safe prospect. Habs first being unprotected could very well be an excellent piece.

Doubt the Sens trade Tkachuk but fun to talk about it.

Not sure what other Habs fans think about it. Risky move because it is 3 very good pieces but Tkachuk is a 1st line star IMO.
 

Barsky

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Honestly very tempting. Even with Reinbacher's injury concern, he's still a very safe prospect. Habs first being unprotected could very well be an excellent piece.
Are you kidding, tempting?! Reinbacher has proven nothing other than Montreal should have taken Michkov & Dach is made of glass, has by far the worst plus minus on a bad team and has yet to even break 15 goals, let alone 40 points over his 6 years in the league. HARD pass
 

Barsky

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A lot of this is unrelated to the post (and outdated and wrong. Pretty big consensus the issue is lack of scoring in playoffs not defense).

As for Knies being the best, we will see but he has discovered he is stronger than anyone else and powers his way to the net every single game. He has destroyed someone every single game. Really soft hands lets him play with skill guys. I could see him being a PPG player in a few years with those tools yeah that is probably top 2 for me.

If you haven't watched him I recommend you do he is awesome to watch
Ya, I was ranting a bit, but thank you for proving my point. Leafs will never win built like this and if you think the one team that spends more on it's forwards than any other, needs to double down on that flawed mentality, I'm simply in awe. Not in as much awe as I am that Trel was desperate enough to give Tanev 6 years, at the same cap he's been making for a decade, throughout his prime, cause that is the epitome of short sighted.
 

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