Golden_Jet
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Just countering your terrible defensively take, that’s foolish.If shorties are a telling sign of defensuve play then +/- is a telling sign as well
Just countering your terrible defensively take, that’s foolish.If shorties are a telling sign of defensuve play then +/- is a telling sign as well
Stutzle being poor defensively is something non leaf fans discuss as well if your thinking I am biased and hating on himJust countering your terrible defensively take, that’s foolish.
Your talking about stutzle right?
His D+3 for sure is better but way better is a bit misleading
Marner had 69 pts in 2018 in a league with 108 pt as the highest scorer
Stutzle had 90 i think with the league leader (same generational guy lol) at 153 pts
Marner also played with Kadri/Marleau/JVR/Bozak/Matt MartinMarner was 38th in league scoring that season while Timmy was 17th this season. That's a big difference.
Assen na yo!
Nah, series is overI would have waited until more than one game has been played before bumping this thread.
Marner also played with Kadri/Marleau/JVR/Bozak/Matt Martin
Stutzle had the better linemates in his D+3 year
Ya great point. this thread was taken sideways. Had to scroll up when you posted thatThis is Marner vs Tkachuk.
Not Stutzle (who will dust Marner soon).
Stutzle is a center.Stutzle being poor defensively is something non leaf fans discuss as well if your thinking I am biased and hating on him
Marner is a top 5 winger in the league since 2018-2019 (Kuch, Rantanen, Pasta, Panarin)
Stutzle will need to improve to reach that level)
It's amazing how the rules change depending which team's player is involved in these polls. For years in polls with Matthews involved comparing players at the same age is not a good argument. Go back and check the poll against MacKinnon.There is nothing misleading about it Stutzle, had 39 goals and 90 points in 78 games while Marner had 69 in 82. Even with the GPG conversion he blew Marner away.
Secondly you have have absolutely no clue what you are talking about in regards to the defensive play of Stutzle. Stutzle's compete level is way harder and plays the more important position. At the same age he is a much better player than Marner. He is more explosive and has more upside. Yes he has to continue to progress but if you are actually watching him you know he isnt done.
I saw your posts before the series against the Lightning your expectations were for an easy series win for Toronto. They can clearly win the series especially with Tampas Injuries on defense. But you clearly cant be objective when the leafs are involved.
Marner had a bunch of secondary assists and some brutal turnovers that put them behind early. But this is still probably one of his best post season games he has ever had. I still think the leafs find a way to win this series tampa is so banged up. However it was a pathetic game 1 performance by the leafs big dogs.
It's amazing how the rules change depending which team's player is involved in these polls. For years in polls with Matthews involved comparing players at the same age is not a good argument. Go back and check the poll against MacKinnon.
I mean it's not like that wasn't a relevant point even then. And I think the season Matthews put up last year shows why people thought he had potential to meet / exceed MacKinnon.It's amazing how the rules change depending which team's player is involved in these polls. For years in polls with Matthews involved comparing players at the same age is not a good argument. Go back and check the poll against MacKinnon.
Your talking about stutzle right?
His D+3 for sure is better but way better is a bit misleading
Marner had 69 pts in 2018 in a league with 108 pt as the highest scorer
Stutzle had 90 i think with the league leader (same generational guy lol) at 153 pts
Marner his D+4 was 94 pts and 11th in pts and a top 15 producer. Will see if Stutzle is at that level and beyond moving forward
Stutzle is also a terribke defensive player. He will need to clean up on that when it comes the Sens time to be the choking team of Ontario
It would appear that his brother has shown up.We've been waiting a long time for Playoff Warrior Tkachuk to show up.
how many 1st round exits has it been?We've been waiting a long time for Playoff Warrior Tkachuk to show up.
I just find it hilarious how leafs fans are all proclaiming golden boy Marner as the best thing since sliced bread ITT and arrogantly suggesting there is no valid debate and that no one would pick Brady over Marner for their team, he's on another level, AINEC and all that BS, and yet Marner just keeps folding like a lawn chair when it matters in the playoffs.lol 33 pages...once again all Sens fans had to look forward too this year is the Leafs losing in the playoffs. Congrats boys.
A lot of projection; it's been Sen's fans claiming how great of a playoff guy Brady is and getting offended and whining about "arrogance" when it's pointed out Brady hasn't played in the playoffs. Congrats on your owner dying though, that's the biggest W you guys have had to celebrate in the last decade outside of Leafs choke jobs.I just find it hilarious how leafs fans are all proclaiming golden boy Marner as the best thing since sliced bread ITT and arrogantly suggesting there is no valid debate and that no one would pick Brady over Marner for their team, he's on another level, AINEC and all that BS, and yet Marner just keeps folding like a lawn chair when it matters in the playoffs.
3 pts, -2 in 5 GP in the 2nd round. Goose egg last night in an elimination game at home. Gets bitch slapped by Matthew.
A lot of GMs would pick Brady over Marner to lead their team.
Congrats on your owner dying though, that's the biggest W you guys have had to celebrate in the last decade outside of Leafs choke jobs.
Lol forgot about losing in double OT in game 7 to go to cup finals, in your decade declaration.A lot of projection; it's been Sen's fans claiming how great of a playoff guy Brady is and getting offended and whining about "arrogance" when it's pointed out Brady hasn't played in the playoffs. Congrats on your owner dying though, that's the biggest W you guys have had to celebrate in the last decade outside of Leafs choke jobs.
I guess the same reason Sens fans bring up that and the finals loss well before that still when people talk about their lack of playoff appearances and rave about Alfie (in the same span Sens fans constantly chirp about Leaf's round 1 exits).There was making it to Game 7 double OT against the Penguins in the Eastern Conference Finals in 2017.
That’s as far as Doug Gilmour or Mats Sundin made it with Toronto and they are still heroes for some reason.
You guys are as hung up celebrating your semi finals loss as Leaf fans of two different age brackets are about the early 90s and late 90s/early 00's Leafs lol. I don't even argue the Leafs aren't pathetic! I'm simply saying the team you are a fan of and it's fans aren't exactly better in most regards, just fewer of you.Lol forgot about losing in double OT in game 7 to go to cup finals, in your decade declaration.
I guess the same reason Sens fans bring up that and the finals loss well before that still when people talk about their lack of playoff appearances and rave about Alfie (in the same span Sens fans constantly chirp about Leaf's round 1 exits).