Confirmed with Link: Brady Tkachuk - The decider: signs 3 year ELC

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JD1

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Trying to stir the pot. IMO Tkachuk left because he wants to play in the NHL. I doubt very much if any promises were made to him. Sens don't have strong roster so if he is NHL ready he should make it .. he likely believes that. If he's not he'll cross that bridge.. he knows the options

I agree. he isn't some wide eyed kid. his whole life has been spent around the nhl. he knows the deal very very well. and he'll cross the London / Belleville bridge if it gets too that.
 
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Starting to think that Tkachuk agreed to sign if he gets a spot on the team.

of course you think that....that's the negative way of looking at things

here's the way this board works

an 18 year old rookie makes a team.....HFSens fan wonders why we never draft that kind of talent

an 18 year old rookie makes this team....HFSens fans tripping over one another to establish that the only reason it happened is because we suck and to get dibs on establishing that it's bad for his development

oh and hey.....I guess you didn't answer that question I asked you the other day....the one about having any personal experience playing high level hockey and losing a step due to injury...I'm thinking if you had that personal experience you'd a been pretty quick to jump on that answer but you didn't so I'm thinking you don't..... and if you don't you might consider in Cowen's situation that you are commenting on something you don't understand
 
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of course you think that....that's the negative way of looking at things

here's the way this board works

an 18 year old rookie makes a team.....HFSens fan wonders why we never draft that kind of talent

an 18 year old rookie makes this team....HFSens fans tripping over one another to establish that the only reason it happened is because we suck and to get dibs on establishing that it's bad for his development

oh and hey.....I guess you didn't answer that question I asked you the other day....the one about having any personal experience playing high level hockey and losing a step due to injury...I'm thinking if you had that personal experience you'd a been pretty quick to jump on that answer but you didn't so I'm thinking you don't..... and if you don't you might consider in Cowen's situation that you are commenting on something you don't understand
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of course you think that....that's the negative way of looking at things

here's the way this board works

an 18 year old rookie makes a team.....HFSens fan wonders why we never draft that kind of talent

an 18 year old rookie makes this team....HFSens fans tripping over one another to establish that the only reason it happened is because we suck and to get dibs on establishing that it's bad for his development

oh and hey.....I guess you didn't answer that question I asked you the other day....the one about having any personal experience playing high level hockey and losing a step due to injury...I'm thinking if you had that personal experience you'd a been pretty quick to jump on that answer but you didn't so I'm thinking you don't..... and if you don't you might consider in Cowen's situation that you are commenting on something you don't understand
I agree. Up until the part where you seem to imply cowen wasn’t actually good. If that’s what you are implying.
 

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Should blame Lazar for eating too many greasy cheeseburgers off the ice
Lazar won me over officially when dorion was like “yeah. I like him on the wing because he’s a very nice guy so when he plays center he wants to pass but when he’s on the big he just shoots”. So dumb. Lazar was clearly so lost on the wing. I liked him at center. I will stick to that forever.
 

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I agree. Up until the part where you seem to imply cowen wasn’t actually good. If that’s what you are implying.
no...that's a conversation from another thread.....I think Cowen's career was derailed from injury
 
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no...that's a conversation from another thread.....I think Cowen's career was derailed from injury
Injuries put him way behind the 8-ball. Cowen wasn't the brightest and didn't take criticism or coaching as well as a pro should which hurt him, and his already suspect hockey sense took another hit from having to play without his physical tools being 100%.

Worst case scenario of healthy Cowen who did what he needed to fill a role is a fleeter Hal Gill/Andy Sutton.
 
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Lazar won me over officially when dorion was like “yeah. I like him on the wing because he’s a very nice guy so when he plays center he wants to pass but when he’s on the big he just shoots”. So dumb. Lazar was clearly so lost on the wing. I liked him at center. I will stick to that forever.


I feel like Dorion has never played a competitive game of hockey in his life.
 
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Injuries put him way behind the 8-ball. Cowen wasn't the brightest and didn't take criticism or coaching as well as a pro should which hurt him, and his already suspect hockey sense took another hit from having to play without his physical tools being 100%.

Worst case scenario of healthy Cowen who did what he needed to fill a role is a fleeter Hal Gill/Andy Sutton.

I agree that injuries seem to have negatively affected his play. I was never impressed with him going back to junior and his play on the national junior team. I hoped he would improve but he seemed to lack the desire or will to hit hard and was slow in his first three steps in his D zone, which made him a bit of a pylon-liability.
 

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Injuries put him way behind the 8-ball. Cowen wasn't the brightest and didn't take criticism or coaching as well as a pro should which hurt him, and his already suspect hockey sense took another hit from having to play without his physical tools being 100%.

Worst case scenario of healthy Cowen who did what he needed to fill a role is a fleeter Hal Gill/Andy Sutton.

I think Cowen would have carved out a decent career for himself without the hip injury. but you're right, once that happened he wasn't able to adapt and resisted coaching on how he had to adapt.

as for the injury...he got slower as the game got faster and that's never a good combination
 

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I think Cowen would have carved out a decent career for himself without the hip injury. but you're right, once that happened he wasn't able to adapt and resisted coaching on how he had to adapt.

as for the injury...he got slower as the game got faster and that's never a good combination

I think BondraTime's comparables are apt; a more mobile Sutton or Gill as a worst case. That's not a bad player at all imo. We could use one of those (maybe Harpur can become that)
 
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I think BondraTime's comparables are apt; a more mobile Sutton or Gill as a worst case. That's not a bad player at all imo. We could use one of those (maybe Harpur can become that)

sure as a worst case....step up from that and look at average case and come up with comparables and then best case comparable.

Gill played over 1100 games in the nhl and Sutton 676. split the difference and that's a very solid nhl career
 

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sure as a worst case....step up from that and look at average case and come up with comparables and then best case comparable.

Gill played over 1100 games in the nhl and Sutton 676. split the difference and that's a very solid nhl career

Agreed. Neither guy was the stud that we all hoped Cowen would become, but those guys were valuable, and have that in our lineup right now would probably help little lone if he developed into something even better.

What I find kind of funny about Cowen is that he's often brought up in conversations about rushing guys, but it was actually the injury in the AHL that completely derailed his career.
 

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Agreed. Neither guy was the stud that we all hoped Cowen would become, but those guys were valuable, and have that in our lineup right now would probably help little lone if he developed into something even better.

What I find kind of funny about Cowen is that he's often brought up in conversations about rushing guys, but it was actually the injury in the AHL that completely derailed his career.

I don't know what's funny about bringing Cowen up. I personally find it kind of sad because it is a reflection on what this board current is.

Cowen is brought up in the context of rushing a player or bad drafting... both negatives on the team. Some people that push that I believe know better, some don't

and then there's some knowledgeable guys kicking around that don't see any team fault in what happened with Cowen

and you shouldn't be surprised on my perspective as we've discussed this previously .... the state of the board that is
 

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First one was a beaut. For a guy who is 6 ft 3 that's crazy good agility/footwork.

The incredible thing about Brady is how raw he is and how much he has purportedly improved in the last 3-4 years. By basically all accounts, he has been quite a late bloomer.
 

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would like Tkachuk to work on his balance, seems to fall and look like he's about to tip over a lot.

His balance issues only seem to arise when he's working his edges. I'd actually say his balance is great - super hard to knock off the puck when he's braced for contact and so on - but his edgework is average at best and the source of his "struggles" currently. This is apparently an area he has improved on substantially but there is still substantial work to be done there. Once he fills out a bit he will be able to spend summers working on skating and I think that will be the key necessary step that must be taken in order for him to become a true 1st line player.
 

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He seemed to be standing right in front of the goalie all night. Something we have lacked in the past
 
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