Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

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I'm skeptical that if Tkachuk had partially dislocated his shoulder on that play the Senators would have dressed him in the very next pre-season game.

I'm also skeptical of any doctor who's trying to get more Twitter followers by diagnosing injuries based on videos and trying to get his own hashtag to trend. Especially a family physician...

He's usually pretty good and provides any interesting perspective that you don't get else where but of course there's a huge caveat that he isn't doing any sort of examination on the player and is limited.
 

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This is the same doctor who said Laine would be out for 4-6 months. I wouldn't worry too much.
He said it could be one of 4 things and he was right about one of them. Seeing what appears to be Tkachuk hurting his right shoulder two games in a row is quite concerning. No updates today makes me think they're looking for a second opinion or waiting for more tests/results.
 

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He said it could be one of 4 things and he was right about one of them. Seeing what appears to be Tkachuk hurting his right shoulder two games in a row is quite concerning. No updates today makes me think they're looking for a second opinion or waiting for more tests/results.

If Travis Green comes out and says that "he doesn't think that any are serious" and then it turns out that Tkachuk needs shoulder surgery, it's a pretty big blow to his credibility with the press at the very beginning of his tenure.
 

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This is the same doctor who said Laine would be out for 4-6 months. I wouldn't worry too much.
Isn't Laine out for 2-3 months? That's not wildly off considering he's only diagnosing off of a video. That's not to say he's correct or that what he's doing is even appropriate to begin with but dismissing him completely seems pretty out of place too.
 
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Isn't Laine out for 2-3 months? That's not wildly off considering he's only diagnosing off of a video. That's not to say he's correct or that what he's doing is even appropriate to begin with but dismissing him completely seems pretty out of place too.
Well considering he was at 4-6 months originally. He was off by 100%
 

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Isn't Laine out for 2-3 months? That's not wildly off considering he's only diagnosing off of a video. That's not to say he's correct or that what he's doing is even appropriate to begin with but dismissing him completely seems pretty out of place too.

I mean, I have no professional medical knowledge and I said "out for a few months" the first time I saw the hit on Laine.

I should start a twitter account.
 

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Well considering he was at 4-6 months originally. He was off by 100%
Diagnosing it off of a video...dismiss it all you want but that's not far off considering he didn't do a physical evaluation. Also, if Laine's recovery ends up being 3 months and the low end of his diagnosis was 4 months, that's not 100% off.

I mean, I have no professional medical knowledge and I said "out for a few months" the first time I saw the hit on Laine.

I should start a twitter account.
Do it?
 

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Diagnosing it off of a video...dismiss it all you want but that's not far off considering he didn't do a physical evaluation. Also, if Laine's recovery ends up being 3 months and the low end of his diagnosis was 4 months, that's not 100% off.

You're giving the guy credit for what was obvious to everyone watching the game.

He said surgery was required. It wasn't.

Now he's saying Tkachuk requires surgery. Let's see if he goes 0 for 2.
 

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You're giving the guy credit for what was obvious to everyone watching the game.

He said surgery was required. It wasn't.

Now he's saying Tkachuk requires surgery. Let's see if he goes 0 for 2.
Right....

He was way off.... What is even going on here haha. Anyone could have said a random time frame and they wouldnt have been far off. As there is no actual definition of 'far off'.
 

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Right....

He was way off.... What is even going on here haha. Anyone could have said a random time frame and they wouldnt have been far off. As there is no actual definition of 'far off'.

I mean, it's entirely possible. We all saw Tkachuk moving his shoulder gingerly in the last two games.

But if it is so, it means:

1. Travis Green could not have possibly thought it wasn't serious and therefore lied to the press rather than deal with the fallout.

2. Our medical staff once again put a player with an injured shoulder into a game he shouldn't have been playing in, only this time in pre-season.
 

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You're giving the guy credit for what was obvious to everyone watching the game.

He said surgery was required. It wasn't.

Now he's saying Tkachuk requires surgery. Let's see if he goes 0 for 2.
I'm not giving him credit for anything, though. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to completely dismiss his evaluation. Also, if you really wanna discuss what he actually said about the Laine situation, he laid out multiple potential injuries and their recovery timelines. I didn't see him anywhere say that he believed with certainty it was any of the 4 possibilities.

With Tkachuk, he said:
I believe Tkachuk either dislocated or partially dislocated his shoulder here and he likely did the same thing tonight

If this is happening this easily, can be concerning as may require surgery to repair the labrum (5+ months out)
He could be completely wrong about this. You know how we know? Because he's not doing physical evaluations or looking over any imaging. He's giving educated guesses. Feel free to dismiss him but an educated guess is significantly better than reckless speculation.
 

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