The Masters
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Fk did the Leafs finally develop a goalie? Is he our stud for years to come? *****reversejinx*****
Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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Yeah, the comparisons between Lamoriello (thankfully, now fading), Dubas, and Treliving are petty and tiresome.
I liked all of them, and I'm glad the Leafs won last night.
I would have been pissed if they lost, and I'll be just as pissed if they should lose tomorrow.
Winning cures a lot of things.
notDatsyuk
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Don’t forget addition by subtraction of All Time Great Justin Holl.
Here is something most folks don't know about Woll .. Woll stoned Mitch in 1 Montreal final spring game which i coached .. da most important thing Mitch/Paul will do for org is 100% pitch Woll to be drafted by us .. I think if you asked Hunter he will tell you he drafted Woll because of Marner .. that said I have also seen Woll take down Matty too .. I have said since da kids were 9 that Woll was best 97/98 tender I have ever seen .. his team did have Tzachuk, Keller, frederic and man child but it was terribly weak after those 4 kids and should never have made ANY of those spring championship games BUT he did it .. our team had 8 nhlers and 8 ahlers on it .. shots were 60+ to 10 in that 1 game STL won 1-0 over TO
Stephen
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I don’t think anyone is particularly passionate about Brad Treliving as a GM and that’s kind of the point… which obviously is lost on the Dubas folks who continue to look for these weaknesses in Tre’s portfolio. What’s important is he’s doing things a little differently and that’s going to change the makeup of the Leafs and give them a chance to evolve over the next few years.
By the way, even as mediocre as Tre was in Calgary. 3 first round series victories to 1 since 2014.
Dreakmur
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The core is still problematic. They’re either missing games or playing to a level far lower than their cap hits. We’re winning despite them right now.
One underlining thing that is being overlooked is the fact that it seems like our skill guys-AM, MM and Willie all are at their best or close to it when they play with Bert and Domi.
I don't think it is luck but more to do with the way they play the game.
If anything, we need more Bert and Domi on the team.
I don't think it is luck but more to do with the way they play the game.
If anything, we need more Bert and Domi on the team.
Winning despite them???? We literally won 3 games because of them.
CabanaBoy5
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Dubas added some great pieces through the years (Muzzin, McCabe, early Brodie) but he didn't realize you needed players who will go through a wall during playoff time. The core 4 + Rielly aren't those type of players. Tre has given us a tougher group of players who can withstand the rigors of playoff series. Look at the shot blocking, hitting, heart being shown by Benoit, Edmundson, Lybushkin, Domi, Bertuzzi, etc. I honestly believe that if we got one more win in us, we'll beat Florida because we've figured out how to play playoff hockey, and also we now have a goalie who is playing extremely solidly.
tuckerintensity
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I mean, look at the top post on this page which praises Treliving for... I'm not even sure. Most of those guys were from previous regimes and/or you could look at the same thing last year and see their counterparts in those sports.
Two first round series victories in his tenure. His teams lost in the first round three times and didn't make the playoffs four times. His time in Calgary was mediocre at best, which is fine, I just don't get the pretending it's something it wasn't.
He's also, at least at this point, not doing things differently. Which again, is this whole idea that seems to be lost on people. We have gotten all these types of guys before, sometimes often. The idea is exactly the same as it's been for a long time, this is our core, we're gonna ride or die here and try to use the cap space to fill in the gaps. We got Edmundson? Great. We've done that before, see Schenn. We got Bertuzzi? Great, we had Bunting. We got Domi? Great, we've gone out to get ROR. We've gotten Reaves? Great, we traded for Kyle Clifford... twice! We got Lyubushkin? Great, we've traded for... well, Lyubushkin before. The list goes on.
Maybe this changes if we lose tomorrow night. Maybe he decides to explore moving Marner. I don't think he is the one who needs to change his mind though, I think the one guy who can claim his fingerprints all over everyone but Rielly is the one who would need to.
It's honestly mind boggling to me. Dude was far from perfect, sweet lord he certainly did a few things that drove me nuts (I think every GM will), but should we reel off 13 more wins this year, this team wasn't BT, Dubas, or Lou Lam built, it was all of them built.
Bertuzzi, Domi, Lybushkin, Edmundson are all looking to be massive additions.
1. they haven't won the series (hope they do).
2. the D he brought in suck still.
3. you must think Tavares is killing it.
4. the goalie that was signed by the former GM is the reason they are coming back, not the D.
Dreakmur
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They’ve combined for 5 goals and 10 points. Thats not close to 40 million worth of scoring…
Mess
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Former Leaf Zach Hyman has already scored 7 playoff goals in 2024.
Boy wouldn't he look good on this team right now fitting in like a glove playing in traffic and in the blue paint and help a struggling Leafs PP?
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Lub has been good, everyone else has been average at best.
2 games is not the entire series.
But we don't have a McD and a shot from the point like Bouchard on our PP.
He changed the identity of the team with what little cap space he had.
You can see the beginnings of the team he wants. Big, physical, tough and simple. Dump and chase offensively with 2 superstar players (88 and 34) who are north/south, who create their own shots and scoring chances. by heading straight to the net.
The issue is the available cap space moving forward.
You can see the beginnings of the team he wants. Big, physical, tough and simple. Dump and chase offensively with 2 superstar players (88 and 34) who are north/south, who create their own shots and scoring chances. by heading straight to the net.
The issue is the available cap space moving forward.
Is this a Dubas Vs Tre thing? Bc I think Lou drafted AM while Burke drafted Reilly, Hunter drafted MM and Norris drafted Willie, are we going to give them credit if Leafs win the Cup?
leafs in five
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It’s a low scoring series and guys have been hurt. I assume you’ve watched the games, the style of play doesn’t cater to high scoring. What matters is winning.
acrobaticgoalie
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We've also really struggled to score in the playoffs and our special teams are ass. A lot of that is on our core not producing the way they are paid to and you can't expect your goalies to mask all your other problems.
Having said all that, yes, in the past our goalies haven't managed to come up with saves they've needed to make in big games
Adding 3 bottom pairing defensemen instead of addressing the top-4, and making us worse defensively and in transition, was not his job.
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