Brad Treliving ended the myth in just over 5 hours.

[Budz]

This team won't make the playoffs with these additions. But people will be happy for a couple weeks til mid November when they're complaining about every single addition.

Can't believe we lost Dubas to sign players like we're playing NHL 23

Won’t make the playoffs???

I will take that bet.

 

[Thornbury]

It's a better top 6 but until Tavares, Matthews, Marner and Nylander (if he's still here) stop playing soft this team is never going to have playoff success.

As for the additions overall - with the caveat Treliving likely is not done yet - they are likely better offensively, worse defensively and outside Bertuzzi and Reaves are still soft as butter.

Therefore, as I'm sure I will say many more times before this upcoming season is over - which will likely be by late April or very early May - this is the same team, the same coach with the same weaknesses and they'll have the same result.

Since you acknowledge that Treliving is not yet done, how can you credibly suggest they'll have the same result next spring?

 

[Thornbury]

Last year. Bunts 49 points, Kerfoot 32 points, Holl 18 points
Last year Bertuzzi 30 points, Domi 56 points, Klingberg 33 points

It "looks" like we have become more offensive, while also becoming poorer defensively. We can go back an forth all day on this, but nothing is PROVEN, until they actually play the season out. No myth had ended, we signed an oft injured player, a hit and miss player, and a declining offensive D man. It would be bloody fantastic if Bert stays healthy, Domi is motivated to have an on year, and Klingberg plays better for us, than he has the last two years.

Pump the brakes some, until we actually see if this group works together... if we still have Nylander, or what the team actually looks like in October... it's very premature to be making grand claims.

Bertuzzi played 50 games last year. Extrapolated, he would have produced 50 points in a full season. With that change, the 3 new guys outscored the 3 departing 140 - 100. I'd suggest that's statistically significant.

 

[Fogelhund]

Bertuzzi played 50 games last year. Extrapolated, he would have produced 50 points in a full season. With that change, the 3 new guys outscored the 3 departing 140 - 100. I'd suggest that's statistically significant.

I'm not sure you extrapolate for a guy who has a long injury history. Two years ago he played just nine games due to back injuries. The year before 68 of 82... Last year, 50... how do you extrapolate for a guy who misses games that often. That too is statistically significant.

I just figured you'd leave it as is with the points, to handicap for projected games missed.

 

[Canadian Finn]

This team won't make the playoffs with these additions. But people will be happy for a couple weeks til mid November when they're complaining about every single addition.

Can't believe we lost Dubas to sign players like we're playing NHL 23

one round.
seven years.

 

[kevsh]

Since you acknowledge that Treliving is not yet done, how can you credibly suggest they'll have the same result next spring?

Yes, but it's not the moves he may or may not make that will define what this team is next year, it's the core. (Unless he does something drastic and that seems highly unlikely). And the core haven't fundamentally changed their approach or results in 7 years.

So how can I suggest they'll have the same result, let's call it pattern recognition.

 

[kb]

*On paper*, the Leafs are certainly ahead of where they were last year. The potential of Bertuzzi and Domi are greater than Bunting's and Kerfoot's (especially Domi over Kerfoot).

Yes, I'd much rather that Hyman and Kadri were still around. But Dubas botched both those up a few years back, and shouldn't be dwelled upon when comparing the team now from when it ended in May.

But for that one poster, apparently the concept of the salary cap has completely eluded him

 

[notbias]

Bertuzzi played 50 games last year. Extrapolated, he would have produced 50 points in a full season. With that change, the 3 new guys outscored the 3 departing 140 - 100. I'd suggest that's statistically significant.

Bertuzzi has never played 82 game in his 7 year career.

His season high is 73 games. If there is anyone who we shouldn't use pace projections for, it is him.

 

[Menzinger]

This team won't make the playoffs with these additions. But people will be happy for a couple weeks til mid November when they're complaining about every single addition.

Can't believe we lost Dubas to sign players like we're playing NHL 23

The team is going to be a playoff lock by US thanksgiving..... Bolts and Bruins are tangibly worse and the Sabres haven't proven anything

 

[authentic]

The team is going to be a playoff lock by US thanksgiving..... Bolts and Bruins are tangibly worse and the Sabres haven't proven anything

If this team stays relatively healthy they're challenging for the Presidents trophy. While there's a chance I may be overrating them there's no chance this team does not make the playoffs

 

[AllDay28]

Won’t make the playoffs???

I will take that bet.

Sure if you want the -1500ish odds.

Or else I'll just bet on Pinny. Thanks

 

[ACC1224]

Sure if you want the -1500ish odds.

Or else I'll just bet on Pinny. Thanks

No one would blame you for not being very confident in your statement.

 

[Budz]

No one would blame you for not being very confident in your statement.

Riiiiight????

 

[Hugh Mongusbig]

Bertuzzi usually misses 25-30 games per season due to injury.
It's the result of his play style and the fact that he isn't very big.
He goes to the hard areas and plays without fear. He can make the big plays, when he's in the game, but you can expect he's going to miss 30% of the season nursing injuries, and another big chunk of the season he often underperforms as he's getting back up to speed from those injuries. When he's healthy and up to speed, he's great... but that isn't very often.

But despite this, he'll be a fan favorite anyway.

 

[MavisGoldberg]

Now you are going to ask what is the myth? And it's really very simple.

I'm talking about the myth that I have heard since about 2019.

We can't afford proper depth scoring because we spend to much money on the core 4.

Now that was bullshit, it's always been bullshit and all you had to do to prove that was look around the league and you would have seen Florida, Tampa, Vegas,NYR etc. all spending a minimum of 40% of their capon 4 or 5, MAYBE 6 players, regardless it's always a small group.

Now just looking around should be enough to kill that myth, but if it wasn't Brad Treliving killed that bullshit Myth in what? 5 hours?

The second that Tyler Bertuzzi put his name on a contract that myth was dead, but if somehow it wasn't then it took it's last breath the second that Max Domi put his name on a contract.

The big 4, are still the big 4, their cap hits don't change, yes the salary cap went up 1 million but that's not enough to make any real difference..Yet Brad was able to do what I was told couldn't be done because we spend to much money on the core 4.

He added not 1, but 2 legitimate top 6 forwards including the best player in free agency.

He added not 1 but 2 legitimate support scorers.

And in doing so not only did he make the Leafs incredibly deep offensively but he killed the Myth that the Leafs spend to much money on the core 4 to add proper depth scoring, it's simply not true and it never has been.

It was always a silly claim. Leafs would not be finishing where they have last few years with no "Depth". I do agree that Bertuzzi+Domi are excellent additions.
With the cap going up it'll just get much easier.