Former Bruins Brad Marchand traded to Florida, Brandon Carlo to Toronto

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For all of those defending management on this one, I don’t want to hear a single f***ing complaint about how Harry Sinden treated players.

It’s just a f***ing business, right? There it is. That’s how we’re running things. You can defend that and agree with it and whatever.

Personally, I think it’s f***ing disgraceful.
 
I heard 3x5 was the final offer. Management pushed ownership to get that final year and they said do it but AAV was the sticking point where they couldn't find common ground.
I see right after my post other reports came out. That’s what I get for trusting Kypreos. Unless he meant to say 2 6 per which he clearly said 3 per but maybe that last past was the mistake. To go to 3 yrs maybe that forced them down to 5 per?
 
For all of those defending management on this one, I don’t want to hear a single f***ing complaint about how Harry Sinden treated players.

It’s just a f***ing business, right? There it is. That’s how we’re running things. You can defend that and agree with it and whatever.

Personally, I think it’s f***ing disgraceful.

I'm still not seeing where the problem is. The Bruins initially offered two years, Brad wanted three, they allegedly eventually agreed to three (which personally I never would have but whatever) but only for a certain price. We don't know what that price was. But they'd already compromised on the term; clearly for whatever reason they were not willing to go any further on the money. Impossible to judge whether that was justified or not without knowing the $$$ on the table.

I take your general point. Sweeney has a history of going quiet and just shutting up shop on guys he's decided he doesn't want around anymore - there was the same sort of smoke around the departures of Krug, Chara and DeBrusk, and probably a few others besides, and of course the Sway business got very messy. There's a ruthless, perhaps bordering on unpleasant streak there, and on top of that Don definitely isn't always entirely truthful with the media. I'm just not sure how much that applies here. There were talks, both sides gave some ground, eventually management reached a point where they'd give no more, and having reached an impasse with Brad they traded him.

That's playing hard and cold, for sure, but I'm not seeing it as outright awful. Again, really depends on exactly what Brad wanted. I'd have expected the Bruins to be reasonably generous, but there's a limit. At some point you do have to say "this much and no more", no matter who it is.
 
Amazing story by EF. Marchand met with management himself and offered compromises and they still didn’t budge. That’s why you never give these guys hometown discounts. Bruins clearly wanted to move on from him (which I think was the right move)
Reminds me a little of the Pedro situation. Management usually does not budge if they have any conceivable reason not to.
 
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Nope, I agree with OP. This team hasn't played hard at any point this year. I always thought he was a questionable choice as captain and he proved me right as far as I'm concerned. You can hem and haw about talent, but effort doesn't lie and this team hasn't put in effort all year and that lies on the captain

I think he can be a very effective “A” but needs a “C” to reel him in.

I’m sure his personality can be very polarizing as well which can be tough when you have a team of characters to lead.

At the end of the day he’s approaching late 30s and he’s had plenty of games where he’s just dogging it up and down the ice.

This isn’t like management holding firm for no reason on a 25 or 30 year old. Those types of comparisons are out to lunch.

Guy has a good career, has lots of hard miles on him, and is clearly on the decline.

Not going to fault Sweeney for having a # and sticking to it in this case

Amazing story by EF. Marchand met with management himself and offered compromises and they still didn’t budge. That’s why you never give these guys hometown discounts. Bruins clearly wanted to move on from him (which I think was the right move)

Yea it’s sad to see what Sweeney did when MBP line basically were all on sweetheart deals and Sweeney still left holes on the roster season to season.

I’d have been pretty peeved if I left money on the table just for it to go to some stiffs
 
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A lot of hear say. We probably don’t know the truth. Even so, they went to three years. That’s more than any other retired recent guy. The other ones went year to year. Him wanting term is crazy and unnecessary. I’m sure they wanted him back but they also have a cap and a team to ice. Don did the right thing and hopefully Brad comes back. It’s not Don’s fault he took a discount. He can’t make it up now in his high thirties. Not realistic.
 
I'm still not seeing where the problem is. The Bruins initially offered two years, Brad wanted three, they allegedly eventually agreed to three (which personally I never would have but whatever) but only for a certain price. We don't know what that price was. But they'd already compromised on the term; clearly for whatever reason they were not willing to go any further on the money. Impossible to judge whether that was justified or not without knowing the $$$ on the table.

I take your general point. Sweeney has a history of going quiet and just shutting up shop on guys he's decided he doesn't want around anymore - there was the same sort of smoke around the departures of Krug, Chara and DeBrusk, and probably a few others besides, and of course the Sway business got very messy. There's a ruthless, perhaps bordering on unpleasant streak there, and on top of that Don definitely isn't always entirely truthful with the media. I'm just not sure how much that applies here. There were talks, both sides gave some ground, eventually management reached a point where they'd give no more, and having reached an impasse with Brad they traded him.

That's playing hard and cold, for sure, but I'm not seeing it as outright awful. Again, really depends on exactly what Brad wanted. I'd have expected the Bruins to be reasonably generous, but there's a limit. At some point you do have to say "this much and no more", no matter who it is.
that's the issue. He went directly to management. Sounds like he came down and they didn't budge. They just signed a guy for almost 8 million for 7 years that did nothing for the team. Marchand was an icon. He was the captain. He took a "hometown discount" years ago so they could try to build more pieces. The cap is going up astronomically. They passed (again, fine) then the GM lied about the trade, lied about the door not being closed (if Brad wants to bend over) and then the team put out a hit piece on him about the contract stuff (which cracks me up since people here love to say they don't do media shit like this).

Again, it's their choice, just say we are moving forward without him, we don't think we are best served with him on the team duing this rebuild/retool whatever they are calling it.
 
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Was with you til the end, I thought he was a fine captain.
Fine captains don't get blasted by one coach then benched by another. There was way too much nonsense leaking out of the room this year added to the many no shows on the ice. The fact that they dealt their captain and assistants kinda shows nobody led good. I agree with the moves, putting it all on Marchand however is weak sauce.
 
This sucks so much. I was completely against trading Marchand unless he wanted out.
same here. What fun he is to watch. I have seen his whole career in Boston.

In 2010 I thought...4th liner with lots of energy and a spark of mischief in his eyes. Then look at where he was by the end of that season. In my many years as a Bs fan and 23 years as a STH I have NEVER seen ANY player who works as hard as Brad every shift on the ice.

Also, he was pretty funny on the bench, and we got so see and hear some of that up close.

I doubt it will happen but I would love to see him back.

...and for the record as I know I am a softie when it comes to the players.....Brad was the only trade I really objected to. All of the others seemed like good guys and I wish them the best.
 
Jesus, if Marchand turned that down, then he didn't really want to be here.
I would not have offered Marchand, that contract, but I understand why he would refuse, after the two signings Sweeney made last offseason, Swayman and Lindholm, and I am more and more convinced that those contracts caused a division on this team, especially Swayman. I do not know what the Lindholm buyout would be, might not be smart business to do so, but Swayman, should be moved and I say that after his shutout, so I cannot be accused of picking my spots.
 
Sunshine, warm weather, sandy beaches, wear shorts all year, no shoveling snow, no state tax ... Marchand is going to hate being in Florida :sarcasm:
He has kids....schools in Boston WAY better than those in Florida.

He is friends with Bergy, Tuukka and others here

He is very close to his family in N.S. Boston is much closer.

Florida is way too hot and humid and has too many bugs among other bad thinks (snakes and flying roaches)
 
For all of those defending management on this one, I don’t want to hear a single f***ing complaint about how Harry Sinden treated players.

It’s just a f***ing business, right? There it is. That’s how we’re running things. You can defend that and agree with it and whatever.

Personally, I think it’s f***ing disgraceful.
Marchand was not miss treated.
 
Florida is way too hot and humid and has too many bugs among other bad thinks (snakes and flying roaches)
Sounds like east Texas lol. It's not bad, though, unless you are not warm weather person. Then it could really suck 8 months out of the year.
 
I'm still not seeing where the problem is. The Bruins initially offered two years, Brad wanted three, they allegedly eventually agreed to three (which personally I never would have but whatever) but only for a certain price. We don't know what that price was. But they'd already compromised on the term; clearly for whatever reason they were not willing to go any further on the money. Impossible to judge whether that was justified or not without knowing the $$$ on the table.

I take your general point. Sweeney has a history of going quiet and just shutting up shop on guys he's decided he doesn't want around anymore - there was the same sort of smoke around the departures of Krug, Chara and DeBrusk, and probably a few others besides, and of course the Sway business got very messy. There's a ruthless, perhaps bordering on unpleasant streak there, and on top of that Don definitely isn't always entirely truthful with the media. I'm just not sure how much that applies here. There were talks, both sides gave some ground, eventually management reached a point where they'd give no more, and having reached an impasse with Brad they traded him.

That's playing hard and cold, for sure, but I'm not seeing it as outright awful. Again, really depends on exactly what Brad wanted. I'd have expected the Bruins to be reasonably generous, but there's a limit. At some point you do have to say "this much and no more", no matter who it is.
They also traded him to his preferred destination so that doesn't reek of two sides
who want nothing to do with each other, however seeing tat tweet looks like he isn't returning.
 
Fine captains don't get blasted by one coach then benched by another. There was way too much nonsense leaking out of the room this year added to the many no shows on the ice. The fact that they dealt their captain and assistants kinda shows nobody led good. I agree with the moves, putting it all on Marchand however is weak sauce.
Yeah that’s fair
 
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It’s a business.

No interest in paying Marchand for a multi year deal at this point in his career.

I’ve got a lot of criticism for this management group over the years but I praise them for holding firm on this move.

I’m ready to turn the page to something new and build towards the future. Never felt right to me personally seeing him wear the C and I’m glad his tenure as captain is over.
Let's take the player out of this

If it came out this summer that the Bruins were signing a 37 year old FA who had 3 surgeries last year, a major injury this year, to a 4 year $5M contract people would go ballistic.

I don't see any team giving him that, he will be lucky to get 2 years

As for him not requesting a trade, is there anyone here who can say he did not request one when told he wasn't getting what he wanted? Were you in the room or hear it personally from him ?

As far as the return, it is possible he may never play a game for Fla, so I get them not wanting to go crazy with a return ...some other conditions could have been added
 
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