Prospect Info: Brad Lambert, 30th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft

[snowkiddin]

I'd say that picking a forechecker/ pk guy in the first round isn't smart. Those guys are easy to find in late rounds. From the perspective of a first rounder, you want at least a top 6 guy, so i still believe its risky.

The fact that he's a second, unexpected first founder makes that risk a lot easier to take.

How many top six forwards have been picked at #30 since 2000? Looking at hockeyDB, and I'm counting just Rickard Rakell and Brock Nelson. Maybe Ryan Hartman played some top six?

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

I'd say that picking a forechecker/ pk guy in the first round isn't smart. Those guys are easy to find in late rounds. From the perspective of a first rounder, you want at least a top 6 guy, so i still believe its risky.

The fact that he's a second, unexpected first founder makes that risk a lot easier to take.

Every pick is a risk, no matter how high up they go. Even at #1, for every McSaviour, there awaits a possible Nail in your prospect coffin. People talking about how few #30 picks make it, but that's because most #30 picks are deserving of that spot. Get this kid away from bad influences like his Dad and Finnish coaches (I'm kidding!) and there's still lots of time to properly develop an NHL player. I know, I'm supposed to be pessimistic but something is telling me to err on the side of optimism at this time.

 

[snowkiddin]

Every pick is a risk, no matter how high up they go. Even at #1, for every McSaviour, there awaits a possible Nail in your prospect coffin. People talking about how few #30 picks make it, but that's because most #30 picks are deserving of that spot. Get this kid away from bad influences like his Dad and Finnish coaches (I'm kidding!) and there's still lots of time to properly develop an NHL player. I know, I'm supposed to be pessimistic but something is telling me to err on the side of optimism at this time.

Have to say, it’s a bit odd seeing you as the voice of reason

 

[Mud Turtle]

for every McSaviour, there awaits a possible Nail in your prospect coffin.

Ooh, very nicely done there!

 

[superdeluxe]

Do we know if a timeline in regards to Lambert? Training camp starts next week for junior.

 

[larmex99]

Do we know if a timeline in regards to Lambert? Training camp starts next week for junior.

Nothing has been announced but it is widely expected that he will be Seattle bound. If that is true we should hear about it in the next few days. I think I speak for most Jets fans in saying that we are hopeful that he heads your way.

 

[trebendan]

Seattle plays at the Ice on Wednesday, Jan 11th.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Seattle plays at the Ice on Wednesday, Jan 11th.

He'll probably be a healthy scratch that night.

 

[superdeluxe]

Seattle plays at the Ice on Wednesday, Jan 11th.

Going to be a ton of Talent in that game from both teams.

 

[voyageur]

Nothing has been announced but it is widely expected that he will be Seattle bound. If that is true we should hear about it in the next few days. I think I speak for most Jets fans in saying that we are hopeful that he heads your way.

How does that work with the Jets? They don't have him under contract so they can't option him to Seattle. I remember reading that the Jets brass wanted him there. But they wanted Nikkanen on the Ice, and he chose to stay in Finland and get paid. And that's a big thing. If you can go back to Finland and make money playing hockey, or play junior, for stipends, and college money, well that's a tough one. Ideally for Lambert, he starts on the Moose earning $70 000, plus a $90 000 signing bonus.

He's going to the Young Stars tournament, without a contract, and you could see a top line of Torgersson-Lambert-Lucius, all who are eligible to play in the A.

Be interesting to see how his career develops going forward.

 

[superdeluxe]

Potential impact on Lambert decision, Seattle traded for explosive playmaker Kyle Crnkovic, who was 5th in the WHL last year with 94 points.

Seattle appears to be gearing up for a memorial cup run.

 

[Buffdog]

Potential impact on Lambert decision, Seattle traded for explosive playmaker Kyle Crnkovic, who was 5th in the WHL last year with 94 points.

Seattle appears to be gearing up for a memorial cup run.

Great, he'll end up in the third line there too

 

[10Ducky10]

Didn't he say that he would play wherever the Jets wanted him to

 

[larmex99]

Didn't he say that he would play wherever the Jets wanted him to

Probably hadn’t asked his dad yet…..

 

[Fintastic]

Lambert has told to the Finnish media that he'll go to the Jets training camp and makes his decision where he plays based on the camp.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Lambert has told to the Finnish media that he'll go to the Jets training camp and makes his decision where he plays based on the camp.

I expect the team will decide where he should play based on the camp. If he's smart, he will concur.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

If he signs a contract he likely ends up with the Moose but I think they want him in Seattle this year

 

[surixon]

If he signs a contract he likely ends up with the Moose but I think they want him in Seattle this year

It is probably the best place for him to rebuild his confidence and get the amount of puck touches he needs to iron out his decision making with it.

 

[Teppo Numenor]

They should sign him so he gets his bonus already, that takes liga off the table

 

[traffic cone]

Lambert has told to the Finnish media that he'll go to the Jets training camp and makes his decision where he plays based on the camp.

You mean his dad makes?

 

[RustyCat]

I mentioned it before but from what I can ascertain his problem has nothing to do with hockey. The common narrative with Lambert is that he has a ton of high end hockey skill but gets into jams because he does not use his teammates. This is mistaken for perhaps being selfish or having low hockey IQ. Both of these assessments miss the mark completely. I feel his primary issue is self-awareness and an understanding of how one's decisions, or indecisions, can impact others. It is not an IQ issue but rather an EQ issue.

I have seen this many times in my work and the good news can be if the person is willing to be open they can learn to develop these skills. And that is exactly what they are. My guess is Lambert's camp has had an extreme emphasis on technical development from a very young age given his natural abilities. It would be rational to try and perfect these but having him focus on practical skills like skating or shooting. However, here you tend to focus inwards on these and become less connected with how any of those translate to a team game. The shortcoming also translates into 'not using your teammates', which in effect is the inability to recognize that your actions and decisions are in lock step with a system as opposed to operating in a silo (Ie: individual skill development). Again, this is misread as low hockey IQ. It is more simply a self-awareness EQ issue. I also suspect he is not a bad person with 'attitude' problems. In fact, from what I can tell he is more the opposite.

I think in the case the Moose would be a wise choice as he can work directly with Jimmy Roy (and whomever else assists Roy) in a closer capacity. I also think a sports psychologist is a smart move in helping him learn more about himself. This would be a wise investment and can pay dividends. I have have been in therapy in a different capacity for many years it truly is extra-ordinary to see how your thoughts, feelings, and actions becomes more responsive to the needs of others. This is generally the same wheelhouse where Lambert would benefit as well, and how we would see it as fans would be him working with, and using, his teammates more. In a situation with a young lad like Lambert the emphasis would be on developing the person, not the player and I do feel a guy like Jimmy Roy is a good person to help be in that mentorship role. He has always been understood as a 'team' guy which means he understands how his actions, thoughts, and feelings impact others. And being a former pro hockey player he also understands on-ice verbal and non-verbal communication with teammates at a more intimate level.

Just some thoughts. Doesn't mean I'm right but my gut says it might be along those lines.

 

[GumbyCan2]

Every pick is a risk, no matter how high up they go. Even at #1, for every McSaviour, there awaits a possible Nail in your prospect coffin. People talking about how few #30 picks make it, but that's because most #30 picks are deserving of that spot. Get this kid away from bad influences like his Dad and Finnish coaches (I'm kidding!) and there's still lots of time to properly develop an NHL player. I know, I'm supposed to be pessimistic but something is telling me to err on the side of optimism at this time.

If he finds his own drive, gumption, give-a-shit-needle, with desire to be better than others again, he should do fine in forging a respectable career in the NHL. All depends on his next couple years development, blinders to negativity surrounding where he should've been drafted and points scored last 2 seasons, etc. And ultimate coaching decisions on ice-time, allocation, linemates and expectations. I predict he will be fine and an excellent Jets former prospect/ current growing contributor. 2nd or 3rd line or whatever?, in 2 to 3 years. This will be fast- tracked if Scheifele, Wheeler, Dubois gone and "he" proves ready for top-6 1st line PPly, etc

 

[GumbyCan2]

I mentioned it before but from what I can ascertain his problem has nothing to do with hockey. The common narrative with Lambert is that he has a ton of high end hockey skill but gets into jams because he does not use his teammates. This is mistaken for perhaps being selfish or having low hockey IQ. Both of these assessments miss the mark completely. I feel his primary issue is self-awareness and an understanding of how one's decisions, or indecisions, can impact others. It is not an IQ issue but rather an EQ issue.

I have seen this many times in my work and the good news can be if the person is willing to be open they can learn to develop these skills. And that is exactly what they are. My guess is Lambert's camp has had an extreme emphasis on technical development from a very young age given his natural abilities. It would be rational to try and perfect these but having him focus on practical skills like skating or shooting. However, here you tend to focus inwards on these and become less connected with how any of those translate to a team game. The shortcoming also translates into 'not using your teammates', which in effect is the inability to recognize that your actions and decisions are in lock step with a system as opposed to operating in a silo (Ie: individual skill development). Again, this is misread as low hockey IQ. It is more simply a self-awareness EQ issue. I also suspect he is not a bad person with 'attitude' problems. In fact, from what I can tell he is more the opposite.

I think in the case the Moose would be a wise choice as he can work directly with Jimmy Roy (and whomever else assists Roy) in a closer capacity. I also think a sports psychologist is a smart move in helping him learn more about himself. This would be a wise investment and can pay dividends. I have have been in therapy in a different capacity for many years it truly is extra-ordinary to see how your thoughts, feelings, and actions becomes more responsive to the needs of others. This is generally the same wheelhouse where Lambert would benefit as well, and how we would see it as fans would be him working with, and using, his teammates more. In a situation with a young lad like Lambert the emphasis would be on developing the person, not the player and I do feel a guy like Jimmy Roy is a good person to help be in that mentorship role. He has always been understood as a 'team' guy which means he understands how his actions, thoughts, and feelings impact others. And being a former pro hockey player he also understands on-ice verbal and non-verbal communication with teammates at a more intimate level.

Just some thoughts. Doesn't mean I'm right but my gut says it might be along those lines.

Very good points assessments. He is possibly not too far off from Nikolai Ehlers in the Nikky can out-play his teammates sometimes and/ or miss a 1/2 second window to pass to an open teammate, with a grade-A scoring opp while he is dragging others defenders around their own end, wearing them out. Time will tell and N.A. pro hockey coaching can bring out the best for his future NHL career.

 

[GumbyCan2]

I mentioned it before but from what I can ascertain his problem has nothing to do with hockey. The common narrative with Lambert is that he has a ton of high end hockey skill but gets into jams because he does not use his teammates. This is mistaken for perhaps being selfish or having low hockey IQ. Both of these assessments miss the mark completely. I feel his primary issue is self-awareness and an understanding of how one's decisions, or indecisions, can impact others. It is not an IQ issue but rather an EQ issue.

I have seen this many times in my work and the good news can be if the person is willing to be open they can learn to develop these skills. And that is exactly what they are. My guess is Lambert's camp has had an extreme emphasis on technical development from a very young age given his natural abilities. It would be rational to try and perfect these but having him focus on practical skills like skating or shooting. However, here you tend to focus inwards on these and become less connected with how any of those translate to a team game. The shortcoming also translates into 'not using your teammates', which in effect is the inability to recognize that your actions and decisions are in lock step with a system as opposed to operating in a silo (Ie: individual skill development). Again, this is misread as low hockey IQ. It is more simply a self-awareness EQ issue. I also suspect he is not a bad person with 'attitude' problems. In fact, from what I can tell he is more the opposite.

I think in the case the Moose would be a wise choice as he can work directly with Jimmy Roy (and whomever else assists Roy) in a closer capacity. I also think a sports psychologist is a smart move in helping him learn more about himself. This would be a wise investment and can pay dividends. I have have been in therapy in a different capacity for many years it truly is extra-ordinary to see how your thoughts, feelings, and actions becomes more responsive to the needs of others. This is generally the same wheelhouse where Lambert would benefit as well, and how we would see it as fans would be him working with, and using, his teammates more. In a situation with a young lad like Lambert the emphasis would be on developing the person, not the player and I do feel a guy like Jimmy Roy is a good person to help be in that mentorship role. He has always been understood as a 'team' guy which means he understands how his actions, thoughts, and feelings impact others. And being a former pro hockey player he also understands on-ice verbal and non-verbal communication with teammates at a more intimate level.

Just some thoughts. Doesn't mean I'm right but my gut says it might be along those lines.

Very good points assessments. He is possibly not too far off from Nikolai Ehlers in the Nikky can out-play his teammates sometimes and/ or miss a 1/2 second window to pass to an open teammate, with a grade-A scoring opp while he is dragging others defenders around their own end, wearing them out. Time will tell and N.A. pro hockey coaching can bring out the best for his future NHL career

They should sign him so he gets his bonus already, that takes liga off the table

Takes 2 to Tango/Dangle tho right .

 

[bennylundholm]

I'd say his best spot is Seattle. Should be easier competition than the Moose face. Get his points and confidence back.