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Prospect Info: Brad Lambert, 30th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft

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Finnflash said:
Just don’t understand how those two Finnish posters could be so wrong. Lol.

Loved this pick at the draft and even more now
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I do think they have valid points. Lambert still tends to make some risky decisions and holds on to the puck a bit too long. Last night he was electric because of that, but there was one pass he made in particular that could have been picked off on the pp for a clear breakaway but he got lucky.

As with everything on these boards, shit got blown way out of proportion. Funny how we haven't seen these guys lately.

I do think some of the attributes that lead to his issues are good things. He reminds me a bit of young Ehlers in that sense. If he can mature a bit in his decision making he is going to be a superstar imo

Buffdog said:
It's possible that his IQ is fine and the rest of the 3rd rate Finnish pro team he played on all had shit hockey IQ themselves
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I mean that's also crazy. The Finnish hockey program is amazing especially considering that countries population.
 
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snowkiddin said:
His IQ seems fine to me. In fact, looked like a strength tonight. Just buzzing all over the puck, setting up plays, and honestly wasn’t even bad defensively.

Maybe he read some “Hockey IQ for Idiots” books over the summer or something because I’m not seeing the “his hockey IQ sucks, like really bad, man!” takes that were beaten into our skulls this past summer.
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I wouldn't go as far as to call those opinions / views invalid. It was talked about plenty by Finnish hockey casters and professionals during Liiga games how his decision making leaves something to be desired. Could be that the NA style game just suits him better for one reason or another.
 
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Kaako Kappo said:
I wouldn't go as far as to call those opinions / views invalid. It was talked about plenty by Finnish hockey casters and professionals during Liiga games how his decision making leaves something to be desired. Could be that the NA style game just suits him better for one reason or another.
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I wouldn’t call them invalid as much as I would call them overzealous. Was his IQ really so bad that the same few posters, who don’t normally visit HF Jets, had to come here and endlessly tell us how bad it is? Because from what I’ve seen it isn’t that bad.
 
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snowkiddin said:
His IQ seems fine to me. In fact, looked like a strength tonight. Just buzzing all over the puck, setting up plays, and honestly wasn’t even bad defensively.

Maybe he read some “Hockey IQ for Idiots” books over the summer or something because I’m not seeing the “his hockey IQ sucks, like really bad, man!” takes that were beaten into our skulls this past summer.
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Kaako Kappo said:
I wouldn't go as far as to call those opinions / views invalid. It was talked about plenty by Finnish hockey casters and professionals during Liiga games how his decision making leaves something to be desired. Could be that the NA style game just suits him better for one reason or another.
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Again, I think it good back to Lambert's supreme skill. In lower levels he could get away with it as his skill overcame all and he was likely always the best player on his team. When he stated playing against experienced men that didn't work anymore.

It was probably hard for him to reconcile that in his head, so he kept trying to force it. When it didn't work, it probably hurt his confidence, so he was trying to overpass the puck, and making low percentage high risk passes.

When he was drafted, I'm sure the org. made it clear to him what he needs to do to make the nhl and he probably took that to heart. I'm sure when he came to young stars camp and all through tc the personal coaching he's getting is based on not coaching skill out of his game, but risk management and knowing when to go for it and when to flip it in and live to fight another day.

You could still see elements of what he has to work on last night. A couple of very risky passes and one play where he got absolutely erased but Puju for trying something cute against him along the wall. I think he must have said something in Finnish to him because Puju went after him later in that shift. I think Lambert has a bit of pest in him which could be a very nice add to his offering.
 
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Kaako Kappo said:
I wouldn't go as far as to call those opinions / views invalid. It was talked about plenty by Finnish hockey casters and professionals during Liiga games how his decision making leaves something to be desired. Could be that the NA style game just suits him better for one reason or another.
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They might be right to a degree but he can be a successful top 6 forward in the NHL without having amazing decision making.

The pushback was against him having to settle for a bottom 6 checking role (which to me requires more "hockey IQ" than a top 6 winger in many aspects, so the argument makes no sense there). He's started very well in the preseason. I don't think he makes the team but if he ends up in the AHL to start the year he might get some NHL call up time.
 
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Buffdog said:
Petan never had the physical attributes and skills Lambert has. His potential was more in his hockey IQ and ability to make passes. It just never materialized at the speed of the game at the NHL level.

It's just one game so no concrete conclusions should be drawn (obviously) but it seems like Lambert has the requisite physical tools to play in the league. It's just a matter of seeing whether or not he can figure out the game at this level. If he lands on the Moose, we may have the answer sooner than later
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Agree about petan. Always thought he'd turn into a great playmaker though.
 
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Mud Turtle said:
He looks just as fast as Ehlers and maybe even has a bit higher top end speed.
He’s quick with the puck on his stick just like Ehlers.
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IDK about this -- I was a Mooseheads fan and loved Ehlers from well before the pick and he was astonishingly fast with and without the puck, with edgework was levels ahead of the next-fastest players, and that's barely changed. Ehlers is a zone-entry machine partly because of that speed, partly because of his close puck control, and partly because his edgework is so good that he can send a defender so far the wrong way when he stops up or changes direction that he has plenty of time to shoot or make a play. So he's dangerous across the board, with a ton of options as he moves into the zone.

From my limited viewings Lambert has terrific top-end speed and acceleration but not sure he has the edgework of an Ehlers (or a JMo) at this point.

Not sure that matters really, just my observations. I'm super high on Lambert and think he has some added dimensions in his game based on his forechecking intensity and ability to disrupt plays and strip pucks.
 
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JetsUK said:
IDK about this -- I was a Mooseheads fan and loved Ehlers from well before the pick and he was astonishingly fast with and without the puck, with edgework was levels ahead of the next-fastest players, and that's barely changed. Ehlers is a zone-entry machine partly because of that speed, partly because of his close puck control, and partly because his edgework is so good that he can send a defender so far the wrong way when he stops up or changes direction that he has plenty of time to shoot or make a play. So he's dangerous across the board, with a ton of options as he moves into the zone.

From my limited viewings Lambert has terrific top-end speed and acceleration but not sure he has the edgework of an Ehlers (or a JMo) at this point.

Not sure that matters really, just my observations. I'm super high on Lambert and think he has some added dimensions in his game based on his forechecking intensity and ability to disrupt plays and strip pucks.
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Agreed, he's also not as gifted a one on player as Fly. One of the areas I think needs some refinement in his game is how he can best attack dmen off the rush. He has tried to go through them a lot so far with limited success. I think he is going to have to learn to use his linemates a bit better in terms of give and goes. Dish the puck off and blow by his man and get it back. He's not going to be able to dangle them like Ehlers can.

I do question how much of his current game will translate once teams start playing full rosters and tighten up defensively. He won't have the same type of room he's had the last few games ro really wind up.
 
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surixon said:
Agreed, he's also not as gifted a one on player as Fly. One of the areas I think needs some refinement in his game is how he can best attack dmen off the rush. He has tried to go through them a lot so far with limited success. I think he is going to have to learn to use his linemates a bit better in terms of give and goes. Dish the puck off and blow by his man and get it back. He's not going to be able to dangle them like Ehlers can.

I do question how much of his current game will translate once teams start playing full rosters and tighten up defensively. He won't have the same type of room he's had the last few games ro really wind up.
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sounds like a few games in the NHL will do him wonders before sending him to the Moose.
 
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DeepFrickinValue said:
sounds like a few games in the NHL will do him wonders before sending him to the Moose.
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If there is a spot for him that isn't 5 minutes on the fourth line then sure. As of now the top 6 is full and I still don't have a good enough idea on what we intend to do in the bottom 6 to see if it would be appropriate for him.

I think we should also first see what he does against some fuller rosters in the next two games. He's definitely earned another one.
 
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MrBoJangelz71 said:
You can tell Bones likes him. Glowing words after his first game. PP1 time in his second game, starts OT and gets a tap for the penalty shootout.

If Maurice was coaching still, that wouldn’t have happened.
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Well, there's the set of car keys, and then there's the spare...

Agree that it's really nice to see the young guys put in positions to succeed through TC and get a proper long look. Should give them plenty to work on and lots of confidence to work on it going forward.
 
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MardyBum said:
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The broadcast crew and Button all were pushing the WHL option for Brad. Do they know something? Why hasn't he signed his ELC yet?

To me, he clearly belongs in the AHL, where coaches will work on the weak points in his game. But he needs to sign before he can be sent to the Moose.

Resemblance to Ehlers is unmistakable. I've come around 180 on this pick.
 
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Kaako Kappo said:
I wouldn't go as far as to call those opinions / views invalid. It was talked about plenty by Finnish hockey casters and professionals during Liiga games how his decision making leaves something to be desired. Could be that the NA style game just suits him better for one reason or another.
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Could also be that he has learned from the experience of the last 2 years. Big steps from one year to the next are normal at his age.
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
The broadcast crew and Button all were pushing the WHL option for Brad. Do they know something? Why hasn't he signed his ELC yet?

To me, he clearly belongs in the AHL, where coaches will work on the weak points in his game. But he needs to sign before he can be sent to the Moose.

Resemblance to Ehlers is unmistakable. I've come around 180 on this pick.
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Poster on the main boards claim Seattle gm said lambert not going there.
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
The broadcast crew and Button all were pushing the WHL option for Brad. Do they know something? Why hasn't he signed his ELC yet?

To me, he clearly belongs in the AHL, where coaches will work on the weak points in his game. But he needs to sign before he can be sent to the Moose.

Resemblance to Ehlers is unmistakable. I've come around 180 on this pick.
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Interesting that they are still pushing the WHL angle. I'd say he's earned the AHL but maybe they aren't reading as much into these two weeks as us fans are and think playing on a championship caliber team is the best bet.
 
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