Credit where credit is due. He did a great job retooling the roster each season to keep them in the Cup hunt for 7-8 years, and was a big part of why they were able to win 3 in 6 seasons. It's nonsense to think he didn't do that specific thing very well.
at least he got the LTIR bailout the honest way because now teams abuse the shit out of it and if the Hawks did that with that core lol might have 4 or 5 cups
Couldn't possibly care less what other teams think of the Blackhawks. No one knows what they're talking about on the main boards, myself included, in 99% of those threads. It's all just superficial discussion and people running with narratives.
100%, who ever isn't a fan of the Hawks will take whatever small or big thing they can find to make fun of them. Who gives a f***? I'm here for the hockey on the ice, dont give a shit what happens off of it.
serious as a heart attack.
never claimed he was good in these playoffs. you can find posts on the main boards where i mock his cap hit as a large factor in the oilers losing the final.
you are attributing things to me i never said, and muddying the waters. watching games is overrated for many reasons. the most pertinent to our current discussion is that people use it as a crutch when they don’t have any objective evidence or even subjective argument to back up their claim. witness how the entire time i’ve been having this discussion, with three or four separate people, the only thing that has been offered to contradict me is “but didn’t you see!?”
what an argument. i can really see the deep font of wisdom and insight you’ve gained from the highly intellectual activity known as “watching hockey games”.
Sometimes a point of view is so dumb all it deserves is a facepalm.
clearly the person who thinks watching a sports game exempts them from having to think about or articulate a justification for their opinion is qualified to determine what arguments are too dumb to warrant a response.
I covered everything I had to say in the first post directed at you, and my comment on Nurse's play is correct and justified, as anyone who knows the game will tell you.
yes, and all you had to say was to the effect of “you are wrong because i saw a game and it gave me an impression which is contrary to your own”. no elaboration, no justification, just a bald faced assertion backed by nothing more than arrogant indignation that someone would say something that doesn’t jive with what you saw.
it could very well be correct, but you did nothing to justify it outside of your mind palace. note as well how we’ve moved from appealing to “anyone who watched” to “anyone who knows the game.” a subtle rhetorical equivocation, which is surely fallacious. does everyone who watches the game also know the game, or are we backpedaling a smidge?
responding to an argument i never made, something i’ve pointed out multiple times now.
The entire premise that a random person who doesn't watch the games, and forms his opinions on players value and abilities entirely on reading stats, is ridiculous.
Funny how you tell me I would have to explain why my eye test is better than yours, but you've done nothing to explain why yours is better than mine.
if that’s the entire premise, then you should have said so. it still doesn’t bring you one iota closer to showing why i’m wrong. it’s actually a genetic fallacy that we can pile on top of the dual appeal to popularity/authority, but if it makes you feel better to say that the conversation you have nothing to add to but still participated in is stupid, have at it pal.
my entire premise is this dick measuring contest of “my eyes are better than your eyes!” is actually the ridiculous thing. your eyes are irrelevant to the question of the soundness of your assertion. they are only relevant if someone asks you for the provenance of your assertion.
glad to see you taking baby steps towards making an actual point. it’s kiddy pool shallow, but you gotta start somewhere i suppose.
you don’t understand. he saw it. how could he have possibly seen one thing while you saw another? it’s almost as if we aren’t actually talking about what we saw, but rather our respective interpretations of the same. that would be ridiculous though. i guess i need to watch more games so that i can have the genius level iq necessary to stop having such silly thoughts.
does he suck worse than connor murphy at the same cap hit? i don’t believe so, which is where this whole digression began: a half joking trade proposal that would never happen.
I might agree if Vermette and Timonen had carried the freight and were difference makers. Just going from memory, but for the most part Vermette was marginal and KT was a 100% washed by that point.
Vermette was very good in the WCF and SCF but yeah Timonen was basically a Make a Wish kid on that team.
Vermette won basically every faceoff and scored 3 game winning goals. He was worth that 1st round pick 100 percent.
