Confirmed with Link: Bowen Byram and Jordan Greenway to Chicago for 4th Overall, 45th Overall, Louis Crevier

[OkimLom]

Well i'm happy as Larry with this. When I saw it I assumed it was a move up from 20. The fact that we kept 20, and now have two first rounders is gold. If you can flip both for a bonafide player in/entering their prime then do it.
Or picking 4 isn't soooo bad, even though I thought we were moving away from that.

For me, having a top 5 pick is immediate grounds for keeping the pick and drafting. Depending on the draft after the top 5 to say top 10 it depends entirely on the player. 11 and onwards I’m 100% open to using it on a player if the opportunity presents itself.

If I’m Jarmo, my assets I’m starting with now, is #20, one of the goalies, Norris, Quinn, or any draft picks from this year.

 

[Dahlicious]

We’re not getting 4th overall are we

60% of the time it works every time.

 

[Tatanka]

After the season I worried that the team was at weird point with regard to their roster and options. They were driven largely by an active defense and to be honest some luck with the three headed monster in goal and surprise of the night contributing on different nights. However, there was no star in waiting on the farm and it did not look like we were in a position to draft one. The team also had a reckoning coming with contracts coming up to emerging players and paydays for Tuch and Byram. And we heard the refrain of internal growth, despite the fact that is not truly a path as development is a) not linear and b) theoretically applicable to all teams equally. And lastly they still faced an image problem, a poor ufa class and the legacy of the Skinner hit.

In a week they were able to rebalance the allocation of cap position wise, add cap flexibility, add draft capital beyond expectations and fill a minor need in adding a bottom pair asset on a cheap deal who projects to be a replacement for Stanley’s role at less cost and possibly more for 900k. And the draft and free agency has not yet begun. Truly remarkable. Now they could get stoned on their own stash and squander the position they created, it is after all the Sabres, but it showed why a move away from Adams was necessary. Adams did some good things trade wise and at the draft table, but I doubt he would have been as bold or as timely in addressing the issues the team immediately faced. Truly a coup. I think this also sends a message that there is a commitment to winning that resonates both internally and around the league.

If they move on from Alex they still have ability to backfill. Finding a top four d is doable if they use their new found draft capital wisely and while they may take a step back they remain a viable playoff contender with upside for the foreseeable future. I know what I would do next, but it is too controversial and I do not want to sidetrack to observation that it appears we have a hockey department again and it is to be taken seriously around the league. Kudos to Jarmo and his staff. Not all sunshine and roses but certainly not a bad situation going forward.

Apologies for the long post.

 

[KeepKane]

Jarmo sat back and had an auction of his smooth skating, 25 year old, cup winning, 23 min a night and 40 even strength points d-man. There were probably a dozen teams interested. Give me best draft pick(s), and a young D. My guess is he narrowed it down to teams that offered highest picks, could also take some salary back with no issue (Chicago is nowhere near cap so 4 mil is no issue).

Chi heard SJ was taking their guy at #2 and called and offered #4.

Somehow Jarmo squeezed the rest, maybe saying that other teams offered (2) firsts plus young D.

Byram does need to be replaced but my feeling is that the Sabres can almost wait until the trade deadline next season to really replace him. Top 3 will need to take on more responsibilities with Byram gone. Go and get a Timmons type next deadline that can play 15-18 mins, some PK and play with anyone. They can add a depth physical pk dman for 3rd pair or 7th D.

Sammy-Dahlin
Power- Metsa/Timmons/Crevier
FA- Metsa/Timmons/Crevier
x Johnson, Metsa/Timmons/Crevier

• Move Tuch for something for the 8th year (Seattle)
• Draft a top C (Malhotra) with #4. Now you have Helenius and Malhotra as potential 1C's.
• Move #20, #42, Mrtka, Norris/McCleod/Krebs, UPL, for a Top line F & proven Goalie.
• Sign Benson 7x7

 

[dortt]

Can’t remember the last time a Sabres GM just fleeced another GM. Applause to Jarmo.

You mean when Adams did it regularly. Mittlestadt for Byram was a fleecing. The Peterka trade was a Darcy level fleecing

 

[Jim Bob]

My initial takes upon seeing this when I woke up this morning (I am an early to bed and early to rise person...):

- Does 9:30pm in late June qualify for the "Jarmo After Dark" title?
- Like everyone else, I am stunned that Jarmo got 4OV, 45OV, and a decent depth RHD for Byram AND Greenway.
- There are a wide variety of ways that Jarmo can go. And none of the paths forward are without risk. It will be fascinating to see the path he chooses over the next 2 weeks.

Personally, I hope Jarmo is shopping the 4th, 20th, and 45th picks, along with a variety of the young guys, and is open to a bunch of different paths forward.

My tongue in cheek thought about the next big move for Jarmo:

He trades 4+20 for 1st overall to take McKenna to keep Terry happy in the event that they miss the playoffs next season.

 

[Jim Bob]

You mean when Adams did it regularly. Mittlestadt for Byram was a fleecing. The Peterka trade was a Darcy level fleecing

The difference was those two trades were really good months to years after the trade happened and nobody was saying it was a slam dunk win for the Sabres the minute it was announced.

And given how Kesselring was a nothingburger for the Sabres, I don't think Peterka for Doan is a fleecing. But, it definitely is a good trade for Buffalo.

 

[joshjull]

 

[Jim Bob]

So, are their senior researchers MDs and not PhDs?

 

[joshjull]

 

[Jetskiis]

If Jarmo packages Mrtka + 2027 1st for a 2nd pairing defensemen, what defenseman do we want? Hronek? Pelech?

 

[Chainshot]

So, are their senior researchers MDs and not PhDs?

Reading some Hawk fan reactions, they seem to be indicating less MD and more MFers.

 

[Jim Bob]

If Jarmo packages Mrtka + 2027 1st for a 2nd pairing defensemen, what defenseman do we want? Hronek? Pelech?

I'd rather sign a UFA like Trouba or Carlson to a 2-3 year deal and let Mrtka slow cook than make a trade like that.

 

[Beerz]

If Jarmo packages Mrtka + 2027 1st for a 2nd pairing defensemen, what defenseman do we want? Hronek? Pelech?

Why give up that much for those D?

 

[Dingo44]

I'd rather sign a UFA like Trouba or Carlson to a 2-3 year deal and let Mrtka slow cook than make a trade like that.

Never Trouba. Guy is a piece of sh...

 

[Jim Bob]

Never Trouba. Guy is a piece of sh...

Like most players, he would be a piece of , but he would be OUR piece of .

 

[Beerz]

Never Trouba. Guy is a piece of sh...

Sabres could use a POS.

But we already have our 3rd pair ... so i don't really see a fit

 

[Dingo44]

Like most players, he would be a piece of , but he would be OUR piece of .

I can't root for guys who hit to injure. He's not Marchand - he's Matt Cooke. And the only real thing I ever liked about Evander Kane was he beat the crap out of Matt Cooke.

 

[kirby11]

I can just see the high fives after the call was finished.

Hope they release a Sabres Embedded/behind the scenes look at this trade going down

 

[Jetskiis]

Why give up that much for those D?

well it doesn't necessarily have to be that much for one, just those are assets he's already traded once for a D, so it's not out of the realm of possibility he will do it again

Could probably get pelech just for a 1st maybe less

 

[Jim Bob]

Sabres could use a POS.

But we already have our 3rd pair ... so i don't really see a fit

Trouba played over 22 minutes a night for a playoff team in Anaheim this year.

I could see Jarmo envisioning Trouba as Power's partner for the next year or two.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Chainshot]

“We’ve decided to run this through our Consultant*turns on EA 25* And we have some issues with this proposed trade.”

 

[Jim Bob]

“We’ve decided to run this through our Consultant*turns on EA 25* And we have some issues with this proposed trade.”

Hopefully Toronto ownership is running trade ideas through a similar AI model.