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Proposal: Boston - Anaheim

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I think there is potential for Spooner to be better than fowler, but I think most people see he could just easily regress.

When you fact that in, then you see why the 2nd piece is necessary.

Think of it like the Bobby Ryan trade without the 1st and you might be more happy.
 
caliamad said:
Good job op. Seems like everyone is happy. Even 3rd parties, wait what?
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Thanks!

Went to Ducks board first and asked around for needs and which defesneman they likely would move then took my proposal that some of them liked to the Bruins board before posting here. Saves a lot of time here and allows for closer discussions (like the Tatar vs. Spooner one, the value of the prospect in the trade etc.) rather than sides turning into a pissing contest.

Cheers
 
Bruins say no on the basis that Fowler does little to make their defense better. Not gonna give up that much for a guy who's a minor upgrade from Kevan Miller.
 
caliamad said:
I think there is potential for Spooner to be better than fowler, but I think most people see he could just easily regress.

When you fact that in, then you see why the 2nd piece is necessary.

Think of it like the Bobby Ryan trade without the 1st and you might be more happy.
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Spooner has shown he is what he is at minimum. There is no chance of regression.


mytduxfan said:
That stat is beyond a joke. Are you seriously denying the idea that a 3rd liner doesn't see the same level of competition as guys on the 2nd and 1st line?
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Spooner has filled in for Krejci on the second line and been around one point per game. He is fine so long as he isn't expected to be a #1. He has the speed and skill to be a force. Taking two 15 goal scorers off his line can only help.
 
BluesTraveler said:
Bruins say no on the basis that Fowler does little to make their defense better. Not gonna give up that much for a guy who's a minor upgrade from Kevan Miller.
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I know people like to make themselves look dumb, but this takes things a bit far. Fowler goes from being the #1/2 defenseman on a deep defensive team winning the Jennings to a below-average defensive team with serious depth issues, yet he's just a "minor upgrade" over one of the guys that epitomizes the mentioned depth issues on a defensively challenged group. I'm not saying it is aliens, but we should not rule out the option of it being aliens.
 
PatriceBergeronFan said:
Spooner has shown he is what he is at minimum. There is no chance of regression.




Spooner has filled in for Krejci on the second line and been around one point per game. He is fine so long as he isn't expected to be a #1. He has the speed and skill to be a force. Taking two 15 goal scorers off his line can only help.
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Nobody knows that for sure , not saying spooner isnt good or isn't going to become better but no one knows what can happen in the future

As for the deal , If Anaheim's and Boston's fan agree to it , then I say its a good deal
 
Coach Parker said:
Pretty straightforward. Ducks need a quality top six player on a cheap contract. Boston needs help on defense.

To Boston:

D Cam Fowler

To Anaheim:

F Ryan Spooner
F Zach Senyshyn

Cap space freed up in Anaheim, Boston begins to fix their terrible defense situation. Is Senyshyn too much? Not enough for a #2 defenseman?

Cheers!
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I find it hard to argue against this deal. Looking at team needs, player value and salary, every requirement seems to have been addressed. Being a Boston fan, I would do my best to throw a lesser prospect+pick on the offer table instead of Senyshyn, but other than that, OP gets the stamp of approval from this guy.
 
Nice job by the OP. If I'm Boston I'd try and follow this deal up with a deal for Shattenkirk. Could Chara @ 50% retention + 2nd get that done? Fowler, Krug, Shatty and McAvoy is a decent looking group for a re-tool.
 
Coach Parker said:
Pretty straightforward. Ducks need a quality top six player on a cheap contract. Boston needs help on defense.

To Boston:

D Cam Fowler

To Anaheim:

F Ryan Spooner
F Zach Senyshyn

Cap space freed up in Anaheim, Boston begins to fix their terrible defense situation. Is Senyshyn too much? Not enough for a #2 defenseman?

Cheers!
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I hope so much for his exact deal being made
 
I think this is one of the better offers for Fowler on these boards... I could see Boston having a Lil trouble pulling the trigger... maybe a slight add fromantic anahiem
 
I just have a feeling that Senyshyn is going to be the best player in this deal. If I was the Bruins I just keep building for the future as they are doing now and make deals that don't include prospects like Senyshyn.
 
So from Detroit you want Tatar, From Toronto you want JVR or top 3 prospect but from Boston you will take this? seems like a MUCH lower ask than from Detroit or Toronto
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
So from Detroit you want Tatar, From Toronto you want JVR or top 3 prospect but from Boston you will take this? seems like a MUCH lower ask than from Detroit or Toronto
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Spooner can give us similar if slightly lower production than those two at a fraction of the price. He makes roughly 1/3 of Tatar's salary and 1/5 of JVR's this season, plus we're getting a top prospect to boot. When you consider the Ducks budget needs this is easily the most beneficial offer of the three.
 
heusy_79 said:
Spooner can give us similar if slightly lower production than those two at a fraction of the price. He makes roughly 1/3 of Tatar's salary and 1/5 of JVR's this season, plus we're getting a top prospect to boot. When you consider the Ducks budget needs this is easily the most beneficial offer of the three.
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Plus I really believe that Senyshyn has a very good chance to be a very good player, if it works out it would be a very good deal for the Ducks.
 
nmbr_24 said:
Plus I really believe that Senyshyn has a very good chance to be a very good player, if it works out it would be a very good deal for the Ducks.
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I said it last year when all 3 were picked they were all going to bust and I stick by that
 
As a Bruins fan I would do this. I hate giving up Senyshyn but to bring in a top 4, potential top 2 pairing d man is worth the cost. Fowler is 24 and will still improve, so a top 2 role is definitely there for him to grow into with boston.
It sucks but as a realistic Bruins fan I understand the cost to acquire a top young d man is going to be significantly more than a top forward simply because they aren't as prominent. Defense is so hard to draft because you aren't projecting 2-3 years, its more like 3-5 years until you see them level out into their abilities. Fowler is at an age where when our younger players ( zboril, carlo, heinen, etc) make the step into the league Fowler will be in his prime.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
So from Detroit you want Tatar, From Toronto you want JVR or top 3 prospect but from Boston you will take this? seems like a MUCH lower ask than from Detroit or Toronto
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No Ducks fans want that. They even expressed it for pages and pages and even responded to you with the sound reasoning multiple times.

Just say no to JVR. It's called the salary cap and they have responded no so many times it's incredible.
 
Coach Parker said:
No Ducks fans want that. They even expressed it for pages and pages and even responded to you with the sound reasoning multiple times.

Just say no to JVR. It's called the salary cap and they have responded no so many times it's incredible.
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Thanks you
 
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