Confirmed Signing with Link: [BOS] Hampus Lindholm signs with Boston (8 years, $6.5M AAV)

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There’s a new Gm in place.

Maybe just made a mistake?
It’s a big loss letting a player like him go, but he didn’t fit the timeline of their rebuild. Better to try and get some good pieces to help it along. Although, I feel like they should’ve got a better main piece.
 

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watch Lindholm be considered a top 20 defensemen in the league now that he is out of Anaheim lol.

I’m really glad to see him get some love. The only knock you can ever have on Lindholm is his random injuries. If he stays healthy he is such a stud.

I think he had been for a while, but then kinda fell off the radar when the Ducks did. He doesn’t play the kind of game that plays up on a bad team like a more offensive guy would.
 
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Hamphus has had plenty of supporters over the years. He's been top 8-12 amongst D for me for a long time. He's better then a lot of the flashier point chasing D. That contract left me depressed as hell, Benning paid Myers and OEL that kind of money. FML.
 

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There are going to be some regrettable years at the end of that deal, given his age. But that's a pretty good trade-off for a very reasonable cap hit and locking in a key piece of a strong defence corps for half a dozen years.

Have to wonder if other teams thought they'd have the opportunity to extend him at that sort of reasonable rate...if it would've driven up the trade cost for him? Or if other teams just knew he wanted to be a Bruin?
 

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Hamphus has had plenty of supporters over the years. He's been top 8-12 amongst D for me for a long time. He's better then a lot of the flashier point chasing D. That contract left me depressed as hell, Benning paid Myers and OEL that kind of money. FML.

The OEL contract is at least kind of understandable. You have to understand it within the context it was signed. At the time, OEL was one of the top big minute point producing defencemen in the league. Points are always going to net a bigger contract that more defensive-oriented comparables.

The Myers thing though, still just makes no sense. It is completely unjustifiable that he makes that much, and was from the start. You can't even argue he's a real "point producer" in that realm. Nor is he at least a steady defensive presence like Lindholm. It's just a truly bad contract that was obvious as such before the ink had dried.


Though part of this whole thing that you can't overlook, is the de facto "tax" teams like the Canucks end up having to pay. Compared to certain US markets that due to a variety of factors, attract Free Agents like it's their job. At reasonable prices too.
 

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if the team that developed him and knows him best felt like that kind of term wasn't a smart move, I would probably trust them.
Because NHL teams never drop the ball or make a poor team decision

8 years has its risks, which I understand and respect. However, in my opinion, Lindholm is a player you take those risks for.

We’ll see what happens, but I have a strong feeling the Bruins won this trade rather handedly.

Or, we can just not question anything and trust every decision a team makes with any of its players, which in that case, close down the forums.
 
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So tired of this kind of bullshit comments when you can't even produce one quote. Trying to farm likes or something? What you're trying to say here is both untrue and lazy.
100% disappeared after I asked the same thing
 

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The OEL contract is at least kind of understandable. You have to understand it within the context it was signed. At the time, OEL was one of the top big minute point producing defencemen in the league. Points are always going to net a bigger contract that more defensive-oriented comparables.

The Myers thing though, still just makes no sense. It is completely unjustifiable that he makes that much, and was from the start. You can't even argue he's a real "point producer" in that realm. Nor is he at least a steady defensive presence like Lindholm. It's just a truly bad contract that was obvious as such before the ink had dried.


Though part of this whole thing that you can't overlook, is the de facto "tax" teams like the Canucks end up having to pay. Compared to certain US markets that due to a variety of factors, attract Free Agents like it's their job. At reasonable prices too.

Bruins seem to sign guys to good contracts in Taxachusetts. People say the kind of shit you are saying, but there are never numbers to back it up.
 

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Bruins seem to sign guys to good contracts in Taxachusetts. People say the kind of shit you are saying, but there are never numbers to back it up.

Like i said, different teams have different reasons for being able to draw free agents in droves, and sign them to reasonable contracts. The Rangers and Bruins have an "original six" allure, combined with obviously desirable locations. The California teams have sunshine and that hip happening "scene" going for them. There are also teams that have state tax implications as a major financial draw. But there are a handful of US teams that have other aspects that combine to perennially put them on players' list of preferred destinations.

The Canadian teams all offer the worst of the tax situations, generally some of the worst climate features, and the biggest drawing feature they offer is essentially, "it's a hockey mad market". Which can be exciting for some players, having an engaged passionate fanbase...but by and large it's a double-edged sword that more often cuts the other way. Few players want to make less money, drag their family to a winterland, just to deal with insane pressure and obnoxious fans prying into every detail of their lives.

There are absolutely numbers that demonstrate the tax differences in earnings. But it's often not even really about that specifically. I'm talking about an unofficial "tax". A premium that Canadian teams typically have to pay to bring in players and keep them. There's the occasional "coming home" story, but by and large...the Canadian teams just don't tend to have swaths of players demanding that they be traded to/sign with/etc a specific Canadian team, the same way teams like New York and Boston do, or the California or Florida teams. The proof of that is in the way it repeatedly happens, if you pay attention. Mountains of evidence that this is the case.
 
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Like i said, different teams have different reasons for being able to draw free agents in droves, and sign them to reasonable contracts. The Rangers and Bruins have an "original six" allure, combined with obviously desirable locations. The California teams have sunshine and that hip happening "scene" going for them. There are also teams that have state tax implications as a major financial draw. But there are a handful of US teams that have other aspects that combine to perennially put them on players' list of preferred destinations.

The Canadian teams all offer the worst of the tax situations, generally some of the worst climate features, and the biggest drawing feature they offer is essentially, "it's a hockey mad market". Which can be exciting for some players, having an engaged passionate fanbase...but by and large it's a double-edged sword that more often cuts the other way. Few players want to make less money, drag their family to a winterland, just to deal with insane pressure and obnoxious fans prying into every detail of their lives.

There are absolutely numbers that demonstrate the tax differences in earnings. But it's often not even really about that specifically. I'm talking about an unofficial "tax". A premium that Canadian teams typically have to pay to bring in players and keep them. There's the occasional "coming home" story, but by and large...the Canadian teams just don't tend to have swaths of players demanding that they be traded to/sign with/etc a specific Canadian team, the same way teams like New York and Boston do, or the California or Florida teams. The proof of that is in the way it repeatedly happens, if you pay attention. Mountains of evidence that this is the case.

Yup, my bad. I saw the word “tax” and my eye-roll meter went to 11 without understanding the full context of the thread.
 
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Like i said, different teams have different reasons for being able to draw free agents in droves, and sign them to reasonable contracts. The Rangers and Bruins have an "original six" allure, combined with obviously desirable locations. The California teams have sunshine and that hip happening "scene" going for them. There are also teams that have state tax implications as a major financial draw. But there are a handful of US teams that have other aspects that combine to perennially put them on players' list of preferred destinations.

The Canadian teams all offer the worst of the tax situations, generally some of the worst climate features, and the biggest drawing feature they offer is essentially, "it's a hockey mad market". Which can be exciting for some players, having an engaged passionate fanbase...but by and large it's a double-edged sword that more often cuts the other way. Few players want to make less money, drag their family to a winterland, just to deal with insane pressure and obnoxious fans prying into every detail of their lives.

There are absolutely numbers that demonstrate the tax differences in earnings. But it's often not even really about that specifically. I'm talking about an unofficial "tax". A premium that Canadian teams typically have to pay to bring in players and keep them. There's the occasional "coming home" story, but by and large...the Canadian teams just don't tend to have swaths of players demanding that they be traded to/sign with/etc a specific Canadian team, the same way teams like New York and Boston do, or the California or Florida teams. The proof of that is in the way it repeatedly happens, if you pay attention. Mountains of evidence that this is the case.
In Boston‘s case, it‘s not just a „original six allure“. What is also very enticing - I think - is that they seem to manage to put together a playoffs team very constantly: the last time they missed the playoffs for more than 3 season in a row, you need to go back to 1966. Knowing that one has a great chance to play meaningful hockey season in season out, is a great incentive to join a team like that.
 
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In Boston‘s case, it‘s not just a „original six allure“. What is also very enticing - I think - is that they seem to manage to put together a playoffs team very constantly: the last time they missed the playoffs for more than 3 season in a row, you need to go back to 1966. Knowing that one has a great chance to play meaningful hockey season in season out, is a great incentive to join a team like that.

Yeah. That's absolutely also a factor for Boston. It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy in a sense. Players buy in to that impression that the Bruins are an organization that is able to consistently put together playoff teams...so they sign there, or ask to be traded there, etc. So the Bruins are able to sign and poach good players on reasonable deals...which is what allows them to maintain a competitive team year after year. But regardless of how circularly it works, it does work, and it's definitely a factor that adds to their draw.
 
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I think he had been for a while, but then kinda fell off the radar when the Ducks did. He doesn’t play the kind of game that plays up on a bad team like a more offensive guy would.
I think he just never fit in with Eakins system well… and Boston plays a system and style that he can really shine in
 

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