Proposal: Bos-ana-win

[wintersej]

To ANA: Spooner + Cehlarik
To BOS: Trouba
To WPG: Fowler + Zboril + Adam McQuaid (500k retained)

Boston needs to include McQuaid for cap reasons beyond this season. He will make an excellent partner for Morrissey on the bottom pair and allows the Jets to let Stuart join Pavelec in the AHL.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

If we substitute DeBrusk with Spooner and add a 2nd round pick from Boston going to Winnipeg and Cehlarik to Anaheim I think it will be alright for all sides.

Boston
trades Spooner + Cehlarik + 2nd
gets Trouba

WPG
trades unsigned Trouba
gets Fowler, a much needed LD + 2nd

Anaheim
trades Fowler
gets Spooner, the required young top6 forward + Cehlarik + capspace to sign Lindholm and Rakell

Fowler isn't anywhere close to getting Trouba so adding a 2nd doesn't make the difference. We don't need picks. Let Trouba sit and rot before accepting this.

If Boston wants Trouba the conversation starts with Krug.

 

[dracom]

Fowler isn't anywhere close to getting Trouba so adding a 2nd doesn't make the difference. We don't need picks. Let Trouba sit and rot before accepting this.

If Boston wants Trouba the conversation starts with Krug.

How does a player who asking for a trade get a similar player who is already signed back? The difference in skill between those two is not that far off. Just don't see the logic.

 

[Hunter368]

Ive been thinking about the team needs etc and figured what better way to make everyone happy then to just throw in a three way to get everyone's heart racing.

so here it is.


To Bos

Jacob Trouba

To Win

Cam Fowler

To Ana

Jake Debrusk

Beat the dead horse again? No way Jets lose Trouba and only get Fowler. Not selling Trouba for 50 cents on the dollar. Easy no thx

 

[Absurdity]

Fowler isn't anywhere close to getting Trouba so adding a 2nd doesn't make the difference. We don't need picks. Let Trouba sit and rot before accepting this.

If Boston wants Trouba the conversation starts with Krug.

That's where it also ends. The Bruins need to add defense not trade one for another. The plan is to have at least 2 top 4D when Chara retires.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Fowler isn't anywhere close to getting Trouba so adding a 2nd doesn't make the difference. We don't need picks. Let Trouba sit and rot before accepting this.

If Boston wants Trouba the conversation starts with Krug.

Wow so you would rather have Trouba sit and rot then get Fowler and a 2nd round pick man o man are some people totally clueless when it comes to Fowler.

Beat the dead horse again? No way Jets lose Trouba and only get Fowler. Not selling Trouba for 50 cents on the dollar. Easy no thx

Fowler isn't 50 cents on the dollar.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Lol no way would Bob Murray trade Fowler for a player like Jake Debrusk who has absolutely zero experience at the NHL/AHL level as of now. OP is a joke any deal of Fowler either going to Boston or any where else would start with Spooner.

 

[Hunter368]

To ANA: Spooner + Cehlarik
To BOS: Trouba
To WPG: Fowler + Zboril + Adam McQuaid (500k retained)

Boston needs to include McQuaid for cap reasons beyond this season. He will make an excellent partner for Morrissey on the bottom pair and allows the Jets to let Stuart join Pavelec in the AHL.

Pass, way too much meh coming to the Jets, sooner look for quality returns.

 

[PsychoDad]

To ANA: Spooner + Cehlarik
To BOS: Trouba
To WPG: Fowler + Zboril + Adam McQuaid (500k retained)

Boston needs to include McQuaid for cap reasons beyond this season. He will make an excellent partner for Morrissey on the bottom pair and allows the Jets to let Stuart join Pavelec in the AHL.

Trouba, the guy who doesn't want to sign with WPG because he is only the 3rd best RD on the team and doesn't get the minutes he wants, seems to get better and more expensive every second he is still unsigned. Spooner + Zboril + McQuaid + Cehlarik? Yeah, why not add Carlo and Lauzon when we are at it.

 

[cneely]

Trouba, the guy who doesn't want to sign with WPG because he is only the 3rd best RD on the team and doesn't get the minutes he wants, seems to get better and more expensive every second he is still unsigned. Spooner + Zboril + McQuaid + Cehlarik? Yeah, why not add Carlo and Lauzon when we are at it.

The minutes excuse is just that, an excuse. If I remember correctly, Trouba is 35th in the entire NHL over the last 3 years in ice time. He was 19-20-21.

 

[Hunter368]

Wow so you would rather have Trouba sit and rot then get Fowler and a 2nd round pick man o man are some people totally clueless when it comes to Fowler.

Fowler isn't 50 cents on the dollar.

Glad you like Fowler, we're not here to crap on your player.....just don't want him. Zero interest, don't care if you throw in a 2nd or 3rd pick it doesn't make Fowler anymore attractive as a return.

Why do people keep trying to push Fowler down our throats? Zero interest, don't offer him to us. Can't make any clearer. Jets fans who watch him play and value analytics both equally have zero interest. Just let it go. Fowler is 50 cents on the dollar, just stop with these offers and trying to sell us on him. No interest.

Trade Fowler to the Leafs, leave the Jets out of it.

 

[cneely]

How does a player who asking for a trade get a similar player who is already signed back? The difference in skill between those two is not that far off. Just don't see the logic.

As a Bruins fan who lives in Winnipeg, I've seen an awful lot of these 2 players. Trouba is a far better defenceman, and is 3 years younger.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Glad you like Fowler, we're not here to crap on your player.....just don't want him. Zero interest, don't care if you throw in a 2nd or 3rd pick it doesn't make Fowler anymore attractive as a return.

Why do people keep trying to push Fowler down our throats? Zero interest, don't offer him to us. Can't make any clearer. Jets fans who watch him play and value analytics both equally have zero interest. Just let it go. Fowler is 50 cents on the dollar, just stop with these offers and trying to sell us on him. No interest.

Trade Fowler to the Leafs, leave the Jets out of it.

Not trying to sell Fowler to the Jets just can't stand the crap people are posting involving Fowler like your 50 cents on the dollar comment.

 

[Hunter368]

Not trying to sell Fowler to the Jets just can't stand the crap people are posting involving Fowler like your 50 cents on the dollar.

Can equally say the opposite, can't stand crap like people saying Fowler is a fair return for Trouba.

So why don't both fan bases equally shoot down all threads suggesting Fowler for Trouba.

And agree to disagree

 

[dracom]

Can equally say the opposite, can't stand crap like people saying Fowler is a fair return for Trouba.

So why don't both fan bases equally shoot down all threads suggesting Fowler for Trouba.

Ducks fans aren't even proposing Fowler for Trouba...

 

[Hunter368]

Ducks fans aren't even proposing Fowler for Trouba...

You missed my edit. So both fan bases agree to disagree on value.....and shoot down all ******** threads offering Fowler for Trouba.

PS I never said anything about duck fans making the offer

 

[Ducks in a row]

Can equally say the opposite, can't stand crap like people saying Fowler is a fair return for Trouba.

So why don't both fan bases equally shoot down all threads suggesting Fowler for Trouba.

And agree to disagree

Fowler for Trouba is more fair then calling Fowler 50 cents on the Dollar or Trouba >> Fowler.

 

[dracom]

You missed my edit. So both fan bases agree to disagree on value.....and shoot down all ******** threads offering Fowler for Trouba.

PS I never said anything about duck fans making the offer

If I've learned anything on here in my first year, it's we can shoot down offers we don't like all day, but they'll still come up. Nothing stops bad proposals on here.

 

[Hunter368]

Fowler for Trouba is more fair then calling Fowler 50 cents on the Dollar or Trouba >> Fowler.

Straight up? That would equal as one big strike towards Chevy, epic fail if he agreed to that deal. Would it get him fired? No, but it would be a big strike against him. I might puke in my mouth if I read he did that trade. Horribad

If I've learned anything on here in my first year, it's we can shoot down offers we don't like all day, but they'll still come up. Nothing stops bad proposals on here.

True

 

[Say What]

Fowler for Trouba is more fair then calling Fowler 50 cents on the Dollar or Trouba >> Fowler.

From an Asset Management standpoint, two years of Cam Fowler, won't get Jacob Trouba (a 22 yr. old RD).

This specific trade would actually be 50 cents on the dollar (4 years of RFA status-Trouba vs 2 years of Fowler, then he's a UFA).

IMO, this type of deal isn't even being considered....'fair' is not a word I would use describing this 'proposed trade'.

 

[dracom]

From an Asset Management standpoint, two years of Cam Fowler, won't get Jacob Trouba (a 22 yr. old RD).

This specific trade would actually be 50 cents on the dollar (4 years of RFA status-Trouba vs 2 years of Fowler, then he's a UFA).

IMO, this type of deal isn't even being considered....'fair' is not a word I would use describing this 'proposed trade'.

Let's be real though, Trouba is not going to get a similar age player who is just as good as Trouba. You're either getting an older defensemen (mid to late 20s) with other assets or get BPA kind of offer. If you don't want Fowler, that's fine, but you're most likely going to get 50 cents on the dollar for Trouba anyways.

 

[Hunter368]

From an Asset Management standpoint, two years of Cam Fowler, won't get Jacob Trouba (a 22 yr. old RD).

This specific trade would actually be 50 cents on the dollar (4 years of RFA status-Trouba vs 2 years of Fowler, then he's a UFA).

IMO, this type of deal isn't even being considered....'fair' is not a word I would use describing this 'proposed trade'.

Agreed. That's why I used 50 cents on the dollar, tbh I was being generous b/c that calling ability/skill equal to Trouba....which as a know Fowler isn't.

I call Fowler for Trouba horribad

 

[Hunter368]

Let's be real though, Trouba is not going to get a similar age player who is just as good as Trouba. You're either getting an older defensemen (mid to late 20s) with other assets or get BPA kind of offer. If you don't want Fowler, that's fine, but you're most likely going to get 50 cents on the dollar for Trouba anyways.

I agree getting a similar young talented lhd signed long term is unlikely but hockey trades happen and the whole unsigned thing is a red herring b/c a deal will be agreed to beforehand.

BPA zero reason why we would lose any value. Much sooner take a very good forward young etc instead of giving away Trouba for Fowler type of return.

 

[lomiller1]

Trouba >> Fowler >>> Debrusk

 

[PsychoDad]

I agree getting a similar young talented lhd signed long term is unlikely but hockey trades happen and the whole unsigned thing is a red herring b/c a deal will be agreed to beforehand.

BPA zero reason why we would lose any value. Much sooner take a very good forward young etc instead of giving away Trouba for Fowler type of return.

Remember what happened when Hamilton refused to sign with the Bruins? Similar player values, similar situations. I'd rather had Fowler + 2nd and not what we got from CGY.

The truth is that WPG deal from the position of weakness here and I can't remember a single fair value deal made under such circumstances.