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Confirmed Trade: [BOS/ANA] Ondrej Kase for David Backes (25% retained), Axel Andersson, and 2020 1st round pick

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Number8 said:
To Wally’s point, when Backes was “sent” to Providence the Bruins room, including its leaders, were very vocal about how strongly the felt about Backes as a teammate and friend. Business is business, but there is little doubt that Bruins players had a vested interest with Backes being treated respectfully as a vet that, while bitterly disappointed to not dress in SCF G7, said he’d waive the Pom poms and do whatever else he could to root his teammates on.

Backes and Sweeney handled a difficult situation with class. That, and leaders like Chara and Bergeron, is very likely why Boston players don’t tend to try and milk every penny out of every deal.

I don’t for a second think Boston presented Backes with any ultimatums. I suspect quite the opposite.

Good luck DB42. You’re a class act and a warrior. Young players in Anaheim just got a massive benefit in obtaining a veteran presence in the room who has and will continue to mentor young players to be best they can.
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Backes has to accept that any trade out of Boston and this not getting sent to the A meant that he wasn’t going to be moved to a playoff team. So long as he was ok with that Boston would do what they could to move him and they did.
 
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StreetHawk said:
Backes has to accept that any trade out of Boston and this not getting sent to the A meant that he wasn’t going to be moved to a playoff team. So long as he was ok with that Boston would do what they could to move him and they did.
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I don’t know the inner workings. I also don’t think I can fault your logic. Playing in the NHL vs. the A is a big motivator no doubt.

My only point is this seemed like a very inclusive process between Backes, Sweeney, and Backes’ agent.

I don’t for a second believe those who might suggest that Bruins brass was driving the ship and telling Backes that he’d have to accept whatever they did/decided.
 

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Number8 said:
I don’t know the inner workings. I also don’t think I can fault your logic. Playing in the NHL vs. the A is a big motivator no doubt.

My only point is this seemed like a very inclusive process between Backes, Sweeney, and Backes’ agent.

I don’t for a second believe those who might suggest that Bruins brass was driving the ship and telling Backes that he’d have to accept whatever they did/decided.
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What playoff team could have absorbed his contract?

he has a mntc but if he’s listing only playoff caliber teams he’s not getting traded.

those teams are not taking him.

fine with players getting paid. But you have to deliver. If you don’t and you don’t have a nmc to prevent waivers then sorry, don’t think fans should care that you got sent to the A despite being in the NhL for over a decade. Then don’t sign the deal if you can’t produce up to the contract.

it comes with expectations.
 
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Patagonia said:
Ducks could easily gotten more.

They inherited a massive cap dump in return for a bottom 1st + low level prospect. A trade for simply a 2nd would have better deal which most teams would have easily offered.

ANA is projected to have nearly $10M next season, $3.5M is wasted on Backes considered among the most untradeable players with a NMC.
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Foolish post. If we could've gotten more we would've taken it. And no, getting a 2nd is absolutely not a better deal than a 1st and a RHD prospect. Backes is irrelevant to our cap situation, we have no one needing a substantial extension until he's off the books.
 
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Gee Wally said:
could DS do that per the CBA ? Absolutely

Would he ? No way.

no I dont. It had to be mutual. The rest of that team was watching. One reason he gets many extensions done below market is because of culture.
The reason this took so long was that it was Backes dictating where he would or wouldnt go and what guarantees he needed.
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p.s. (quoted this already)
but you can tell we're north of whatever, have a particular view and never grew up on EA sports. David Backes is an actual person and not an 'asset'. And he's damn well one that has earned league-wide respect. Start treating those kinda guys like trash and you'll be on the outside looking in going forward.

Anaheim is a good fit for him - are one of the few teams, like The Bruins, that have played a solid heavy game for a long time and although I don't think he'll Wow people there... I know Ducks fans will appreciate him.
 
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tomd said:
hmmm...I can't imagine that is true. Maybe a Ducks fan (singular) wouldn't do it but...
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No, it was multiple fans multiple times. I could probably dig it up if you want. It was in the midst of a hot streak of his last year though, so I suppose folks were expecting more.
 

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No, it was multiple fans multiple times. I could probably dig it up if you want. It was in the midst of a hot streak of his last year though, so I suppose folks were expecting more.
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He only played 30 games last year so it must have been a short hot streak! 11 goals in those 30 games but Anthony Mantha is a much more impactful player and was last year as well.
 
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At face value this looks like a pretty bad trade for Anaheim. A cap dump + late 1st + maybe B prospect for Kase. I would have thought that they could do way better than that. Backes pretty much nullifies the 1st, so it's really Kase for a guy who might not ever be a contributor at the NHL level.
 
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Yeah good thing the leafs are too smart to give out bad contracts and have to give up 1sts to get rid of them
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No arguments here... I was against the Marleau signing from day 1. Dubas had to pay a heavy price to get out from underneath Lou's mistake. Different situation here though... B's gave up a 1st and a solid D prospect for a decent winger, not a great player, but a decent player... one with some extreme health issues (several concussions + major shoulder injury last year).
 
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Patagonia said:
Bruins already have a weak farm due their NHL success. Yet, they didn’t send a Top 10 player and free cap space to extend their young players? They also got a good player.

I’m not a Bruins fan, but admit this was a brilliant deal.
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I don't see how that is relevant at all to what was being discussed. Trading Kase for Faulk would've been a bad move since it either means we're trading for a rental or trading for a older defensemen who's not that great and signing him to an awful contract.
 
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valet said:
At face value this looks like a pretty bad trade for Anaheim. A cap dump + late 1st + maybe B prospect for Kase. I would have thought that they could do way better than that. Backes pretty much nullifies the 1st, so it's really Kase for a guy who might not ever be a contributor at the NHL level.
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I don't see it that way. Anaheim isn't competing any time soon, so why do they care if Backes sits on their cap? They obviously wanted the 1st and Andersson
 
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It feel like the Ducks should have got a little more with Backes, but another first is nice in this draft.
 
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