Confirmed Trade: [BOS/ANA] Ondrej Kase for David Backes (25% retained), Axel Andersson, and 2020 1st round pick

[BurntToast]

I can’t help but feel this wasn’t the original plan for Boston. Plus, it’s never a “win”, when a team has to shell out a 1st round pick to get rid of a bad contract. The most valuable aspect of this trade for Boston is the flexibility.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I can’t help but feel this wasn’t the original plan for Boston. Plus, it’s never a “win”, when a team has to shell out a 1st round pick to get rid of a bad contract. The most valuable aspect of this trade for Boston is the flexibility.

Maybe, they have a plan for rookies coming up in the future?

 

[BostonBob]

If Kase weren't so injury-prone, it's definitely a win for Boston, or probably just giving Backes without retention. I don't know. That's just my opinion; probably, you, as a Bruins fan, would know better.

Nothing wrong with having an opinion....without them this board would not exist. See you later tonight.

I can’t help but feel this wasn’t the original plan for Boston. Plus, it’s never a “win”, when a team has to shell out a 1st round pick to get rid of a bad contract. The most valuable aspect of this trade for Boston is the flexibility.

You might be right - there was a lot of talk about using that 1st round pick along with a bunch of other assets to get Kreider but I think Sweeney balked about surrendering another 1st round pick for a possible 1 year rental after what happened with Rick Nash. Trust me - that extra year of Kase's contract was very appealing to Boston. And yes - the salary cap flexibility was certainly a big thing because now it becomes hopefully easier to re-sign Krug and DeBrusk.

 

[ijuka]

People claiming that the the cost of taking Backes was the first are ignoring the retention, actual dollars, and money going out. Backes contract will cost the ducks $3M in real dollars next year (not much more than Kase's salary), though the cap his will be higher (irrelevant to the ducks who are well under the cap). And if they want, the ducks can buyout Backes and save another $1M. With that retention, Boston could have traded Backes to a lot of teams and not given up a first.

It's a very late first, and would be a very late 2nd round pick. Let's take the Marleau one in comparison. 1.8mil less cap saved, but a latter first. Think of how much it costs to move up just a few spots. In 2016, Winnipeg Jets traded #22OA and #36OA for #18OA, as an example. Just think of that. A couple spots are worth an early second round pick. As such, the latter first for 4.5mil is probably just as fair a value as 6.3mil for an expected earlier first(No one should have expected Leafs to this season do better than Bruins are doing now). This also is why people saying the real value should have been a 2nd round pick aren't making a whole lot of sense.

Hence, it essentially is a random depth prospect for a young 2nd line winger. Massive win for Bruins.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Nothing wrong with having an opinion....without them this board would not exist. See you later tonight.

Thanks for understanding.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Is Kase injury-prone?

Seems that’s the Kase.

edit- was not aware it was a Kase where the pronunciation varied so much from the spelling. Ka-shuh.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Seems that’s the Kase.

edit- was not aware it was a Kase where the pronunciation varied so much from the spelling. Ka-shuh.

It's a good enough of a pun, though.

 

[BB88]

I can’t help but feel this wasn’t the original plan for Boston. Plus, it’s never a “win”, when a team has to shell out a 1st round pick to get rid of a bad contract. The most valuable aspect of this trade for Boston is the flexibility.

Why not?

Boston is looking at a #2Rw& being able to re-sign Krug, cap space was needed, they just got that.

 

[BurntToast]

Why not?

Boston is looking at a #2Rw& being able to re-sign Krug, cap space was needed, they just got that.

Instead Boston took a 3/4 line RW, hoping he has the potential to get over 40pts. It’s not a bad gamble, but to me this trade was strictly about clearing the books.

 

[BB88]

Instead Boston took a 3/4 line RW, hoping he has the potential to get over 40pts. It’s not a bad gamble, but to me this trade was strictly about clearing the books.

They are after a bigger guy, still are, but all this time they have needed cap space, not just for this year but next as well.
Enter Backes dumping, they were able to do it while adding another cheap top9 winger into the mix.

So why wouldn’t this line up with their original plan?

This was a needed move for the follow up

 

[BostonBruins11]

Bruins just got younger +cap space

They have a ton of quality pieces for the future and only need to worry about replacing Bergeron in the next few years now as he regresses(slowly into vintage shut down Bergy :p)

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Bruins just got younger +cap space

They have a ton of quality pieces for the future and only need to worry about replacing Bergeron in the next few years now as he regresses(slowly into vintage shut down Bergy :p)

Kase is injury-prone, though, not like Eriksson or Baertschi.

 

[Blowfish]

Certainly beats Marleau, 1st, 7th for a 6th

Unreal!

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Is Kase sick or concussed right now?

 

[Leonardo87]

Boston Fans - good trade
Ducks Fans - good trade
Other Fans - Ducks got screwed

Ducks wanted a 1st round. Kase alone was not going to get it done because of his “concussion and injury history” Ducks who are not concerned with cap the next two years took on a cap dump to get that 1st which the cap dump alone would not have gotten a 1st. They got a 1st and a better prospect. A RHD which they needed in their system.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Is Kase sick or concussed right now?

There's a high likelihood of him being that.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

There's a high likelihood of him being that.

What? Brain flu?

 

[BostonBruins11]

Kase is injury-prone, though, not like Eriksson or Baertschi.

Indeed he has been, lets hope he can turn it around the same way Bergeron did after his multiple consecutive concussions early in his career.

 

[CDJ]

Boston Fans - good trade
Ducks Fans - good trade
Other Fans - Ducks got screwed

Ducks wanted a 1st round. Kase alone was not going to get it done because of his “concussion and injury history” Ducks who are not concerned with cap the next two years took on a cap dump to get that 1st which the cap dump alone would not have gotten a 1st. They got a 1st and a better prospect. A RHD which they needed in their system.

yup as a bruins fan I see both teams accomplishing what they wanted to accomplish

I can’t complain because they upgraded the top 9 and got rid of Backes with one move. Two birds with one stone. The ducks gets a 1st to absorb a guy who should help the youngsters in the room and a solid defense prospect in Andersson

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Indeed he has been, lets hope he can turn it around the same way Bergeron did after his multiple consecutive concussions early in his career.

Hopefully, Kase does well for Boston.

 

[veganbruin]

Don’t mind the deal. My only apprehension is the injury history and now we don’t have a 1st for a bigger deal.

 

[The don godfather]

Bruins have drafted well they can afford the 1st round pick loss. They got a 24 yr old kid who can pop 20 goals a year and now can resign krug. Don did well here.

 

[Team Cozens]

Bruins just got younger +cap space

They have a ton of quality pieces for the future and only need to worry about replacing Bergeron in the next few years now as he regresses(slowly into vintage shut down Bergy :p)

This trade could give the Bruins the push they need to get out of the East over the Lightning, Capitals and maybe Penguins. Fantastic trade.

 

[Wanderson]

Hey, I'm not a Ducks fan, so I don't completely know about Kase. Just that he's a good player.

However, water can't wet anything, if it's bound by cohesion.

you’re a Anaheim fan. it’s obvious.

 

[OVO16]

I thought for sure the Bruins were gonna go after someone with more grit and Physicality (Kreider/Palmeri).

I guess there's still time to go after one of those players but I would assume that 2020 1st was something both teams would want.

Marchand - Bergeron - Pasternak
Debrusk - Kreiji - Kase
Heinen - Coyle - Bjork
Nordstrom - Kuraly - Wagner

Is that right bruins fans?