Value of: Boone Jenner

[Sens Vader]

Well, given that we keep saying "top-6 center" and you responded with "what about this here bottom-6 center we have", I figured a response in kind was the best policy.

what are you adding to Jenner for a legit top 6 center?



and the only top 6 center offered in this thread is one you rejected. So get your head out of your ass, it will make this place far more pleasant for the rest of us.

 

[Viqsi]

what are you adding to Jenner for a top 6 center?

Nope. You don't get to do that. We aren't in any rush to trade Jenner. You came to us. You asked for a price. We told you what we were looking for. You can accept that price, or you can conclude that it's too high and move on. You do not get to say "that's not worth that, how dare you".

EDIT: ...well, okay, I suppose you can say that, but that's not going to make your desired price any more feasible. Neither will any of those other replies you're probably thinking of now along the lines of "but really, he's not", "when did you become the GM", "fine then enjoy what you have", and all the other typical sour-grapes replies folks come up with Every. Single. Time.

 

[Sens Vader]

Nope. You don't get to do that. We aren't in any rush to trade Jenner. You came to us. You asked for a price. We told you what we were looking for. You can accept that price, or you can conclude that it's too high and move on. You do not get to say "that's not worth that, how dare you".

the only top 6 center offered in this thread is one you rejected. So get your head out of your ass, it will make this place far more pleasant for the rest of us.

I didnt come to YOU for anything - YOU provide nothing to the conversation.

I can ask about a package and get told no "I think this would work better", But YOU - HF CLASSICALLY - responded with a moronic comment, so you can check yourself with the 'typical' comment as well.

And yes I get to say he is not worth what you say he is (a legit top 6 without add) - because that claim is rational

 

[ManofSteel55]

what are you adding to Jenner for a legit top 6 center?



and the only top 6 center offered in this thread is one you rejected. So get your head out of your ass, it will make this place far more pleasant for the rest of us.

Why would they add to Jenner for a top 6 centre? He's off to a slow start but that doesn't diminish his value. The guy scored 30 goals last year on a team that didn't score a ton, is a good all around player, and he is only going to grow as a player. If teams are offering less than a top 6 center for Boone Jenner, they aren't going to have a shot in hell of getting him.

From Edmonton I might do something around Nugent-Hopkins, we need another goal scorer and as great as Nuge is, he is going to have to bounce pucks off of bottom six guys to have a shot at really producing well for us, unless McLellan moves Draisaitl to the wing. Nuge is too good offensively to throw in the role we currently have him in, and I think he could flourish in a new environment. And Jenner brings what we need. Not sure if Columbus would have any interest in a deal like that, and I wouldn't blame them if they would rather keep Jenner because he is really good, but I think it could work out well for both teams.

 

[Viqsi]

the only top 6 center offered in this thread is one you rejected.

Funny, I don't recall actually rejecting Nazem Kadri or Tyler Johnson; just that some adjustments would be needed to make it work for both sides (and that I wasn't in a rush to trade Jenner to begin with).

As for the rest...

* * *​

Why would they add to Jenner for a top 6 centre? He's off to a slow start but that doesn't diminish his value. The guy scored 30 goals last year on a team that didn't score a ton, is a good all around player, and he is only going to grow as a player. If teams are offering less than a top 6 center for Boone Jenner, they aren't going to have a shot in hell of getting him.

From Edmonton I might do something around Nugent-Hopkins, we need another goal scorer and as great as Nuge is, he is going to have to bounce pucks off of bottom six guys to have a shot at really producing well for us, unless McLellan moves Draisaitl to the wing. Nuge is too good offensively to throw in the role we currently have him in, and I think he could flourish in a new environment. And Jenner brings what we need. Not sure if Columbus would have any interest in a deal like that, and I wouldn't blame them if they would rather keep Jenner because he is really good, but I think it could work out well for both teams.

Managing cap would make this a bit of a dicey proposition to make happen equitably, but in principle I'd definitely be interested in RNH.

 

[Sens Vader]

^
NO! we want a legit top 6

3 legit top 6 center's offered

"meh", "maaaybbbeee", "cant take the cap"

at least we can establish your terrible taste in art on top of your horrendous contribution to the conversation. never change hf.

 

[Viqsi]

^
NO! we want a legit top 6

3 legit top 6 center's offered

"meh", "maaaybbbeee", "cant take the cap"

at least we can establish your terrible taste in art on top of your horrendous contribution to the conversation. never change hf.

This reads to me like you can't tell the difference between "not as is but this is a reasonable basis for negotiation, let's negotiate" and "hell no, this is awful, go away". There's kind of, y'know, subtle yet important differences between the two.

 

[ManofSteel55]

^
NO! we want a legit top 6

3 legit top 6 center's offered

"meh", "maaaybbbeee", "cant take the cap"

at least we can establish your terrible taste in art on top of your horrendous contribution to the conversation. never change hf.

Just because they want a legit top 6 centre doesn't mean they would take ANY top 6 centre. Still has to be the right fit in terms of cap, skill set needed by the team, etc.

 

[Sarcastic]

^
NO! we want a legit top 6

3 legit top 6 center's offered

"meh", "maaaybbbeee", "cant take the cap"

at least we can establish your terrible taste in art on top of your horrendous contribution to the conversation. never change hf.

You're weird. Maybe avoid the Trade Board if your blood pressure can't even handle a simple rebuttal.

 

[Crede777]

It would require a bona fide #1 center.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

Would need to be part of a package that returns a center who is a good bit better than Dubinsky.

What would the Coyotes have to add to Hanzal?

 

[Viqsi]

It would require a bona fide #1 center.

Obviously that's preferred, but I don't think we quite have to reach that far.

* * *​

What would the Coyotes have to add to Hanzal?

That feels kind of lateral to me, mostly because of injury history. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Hanzal and think he's criminally underrated; I'm just kind of ambivalent in this context.

 

[Poignant Discussion*]

Ottawa would offer Colin White and a 2017 2nd.

Blue Jackets hang up the phone

 

[Crede777]

Obviously that's preferred, but I don't think we quite have to reach that far.

I don't think the CBJ are even considering moving him. Hence that's what I think it would take.

Is Jenner worth that? No. Columbus would have to add a significantly (even a piece that is as valuable as Jenner). Do I think anyone would offer a #1 C? No.

 

[major major]

The Hanzal proposal makes sense in one respect - it would give the Jackets a more dominating presence up the middle. It's the one area where the team has really sagged in the last few years. Forget Johansen, even having Dubinsky up to his old level, or having Anisimov back would be huge. Hanzal can play like Arty. I think the Jackets would make this deal if the age wasn't at issue.

Of course, Jenner is 23 and Hanzal 29 and soon to be a UFA. So the value isn't halfway there. The adds would have to be big - my guess (a total guess) is in the neighborhood of several 2nd round picks.

It would require a bona fide #1 center.

Yeah, someone who can slot behind Wennberg.

 

[Zarathustra]

Why would they add to Jenner for a top 6 centre? He's off to a slow start but that doesn't diminish his value. The guy scored 30 goals last year on a team that didn't score a ton, is a good all around player, and he is only going to grow as a player. If teams are offering less than a top 6 center for Boone Jenner, they aren't going to have a shot in hell of getting him.

From Edmonton I might do something around Nugent-Hopkins, we need another goal scorer and as great as Nuge is, he is going to have to bounce pucks off of bottom six guys to have a shot at really producing well for us, unless McLellan moves Draisaitl to the wing. Nuge is too good offensively to throw in the role we currently have him in, and I think he could flourish in a new environment. And Jenner brings what we need. Not sure if Columbus would have any interest in a deal like that, and I wouldn't blame them if they would rather keep Jenner because he is really good, but I think it could work out well for both teams.

I'd do this in a heartbeat. (I'm not as high on Jenner as most of CBJ fans though, even though I think he's a good player). RNH would, IMO, thrive between Atkinson and Hartnell.

 

[CBJx614]

Tbh I don't want to trade for a #1C because it'll take minutes away from Wennberg. I honestly don't think management is looking for another center until they can get a better idea of what Wennbergs ceiling is.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Tbh I don't want to trade for a #1C because it'll take minutes away from Wennberg. I honestly don't think management is looking for another center until they can get a better idea of what Wennbergs ceiling is.

Trading for a top-line center wouldn't be taking minutes away from Wennberg. It would be to bump Dubinsky down to a 3C role.

 

[Hello Johnny]

Value is at an all-time low. No point in trading him now.

 

[veganbruin]

How about 1 of Krejci or Spooner for Boone Jenner?

 

[Phry]

How about 1 of Krejci or Spooner for Boone Jenner?

Further to this offer: I propose Wideman for Atkinson.

 

[Kamiccolo]

TIL Jenner has the value of a star NHLer.

Kadri + Kapi + for Jenner + capdump? And they say no? Lol

Kadri is a shutdown 60 point C for us. Kapi is lighting up the AHL in his first eligible AHL season if he was drafted out of the CHL.

Jenner by even their own admission hasn't been good this year. He has 1 49 point season.

Just brutal.

 

[The Great Weal]

Would love him in Montreal. Not sure what the price would be

 

[Avs44]

TIL Jenner has the value of a star NHLer.

Kadri + Kapi + for Jenner + capdump? And they say no? Lol

Kadri is a shutdown 60 point C for us. Kapi is lighting up the AHL in his first eligible AHL season if he was drafted out of the CHL.

Jenner by even their own admission hasn't been good this year. He has 1 49 point season.

Just brutal.

Nazem Kadri, the career high 50 point shutdown 60 point centre. And then after that fabrication you point out Jenner's career high is only 49 points

 

[PG Canuck]

TIL Jenner has the value of a star NHLer.

Kadri + Kapi + for Jenner + capdump? And they say no? Lol

Kadri is a shutdown 60 point C for us. Kapi is lighting up the AHL in his first eligible AHL season if he was drafted out of the CHL.

Jenner by even their own admission hasn't been good this year. He has 1 49 point season.

Just brutal.

In what world in Kadri a 60 point player?