Value of: Boone Jenner to COL

[Freaky Styley]

To CBJ
Calum Ritchie
2024 1st

To COL
Boone Jenner

I'm getting some heat from fellow Avs fans for suggesting this but I really think this has the potential to make sense for both teams. I'm aware that Jenner isn't available unless it's really worth if for the Jackets and will cost a premium. I also understand the market right now is demanding high prices, so I'd rather overpay for a guy in a Hagel-like deal than for half measures like Henrique or Monahan.

Jenner has 3 playoff runs at 3.75M and would slot in nicely as the Avs 2C, while providing insurance for Landeskog if he can't return as they play a similar game and Jenner could eventually slot into that spot on the wing.

Meanwhile, Ritchie would give the Jackets a guy who just got named OHL player of the month and is progressing very well to slot in behind Fantilli sooner than later and fits the Jacket's timeline of competitiveness. Allows them to capitalize on Jenner while his value is probably as high as it will ever be

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[Viqsi]

At this point I want to answer "No" forcefully enough that y'all will finally be deterred and just leave us alone. We need our veteran mentors who Play The Right Way for the existing kids far, far more than we need even more kids - and no, that doesn't mean that one should start throwing in any 32+ year old thirteenth forwards and seventh defenseman to "make it even".

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Fair offer, if he is available. Jenner is great bang for the buck.

 

[stevo61]

Not saying the value isnt there but Columbus cant just ice a team of kids and expect good things

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Not saying the value isnt there but Columbus cant just ice a team of kids and expect good things

I am sure they would throw in RyJo to help babysit!

 

[Viqsi]

I am sure they would throw in RyJo to help babysit!

 

[stevo61]

I am sure they would throw in RyJo to help babysit!

Fantilli would need to babysit Johansen

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Fantilli would need to babysit Johansen

Yeah, but he bleeds Blue Jacket blood.

 

[Viqsi]

Yeah, but he bleeds Blue Jacket blood.

I'm pretty sure he repainted his basketball court.

 

[MarchessaultCantRead]

Jenner is a great player, but Ritchie might be the Avs answer to their 2C woes as soon as next year.

Ritchie should pretty much be untouchable at this point. Those three ELC years will also be huge for the Avs upcoming cap situation.

I just don’t think there’s a trade here and would rather see the Avs push for someone like Brock Nelson instead.

 

[Double Dion]

The center market is completely void of anything in free agency. It's leading to absurd prices right now. Lindholm will get 9M per in the offseason. Monahan and Henrique will be over 4M for players who just fill a 3C spot with nothing special.

While Ritchie + 1st is an overpay for Jenner, how do the Jackets replace him? They need at least 1 or 2 more forwards who can play hard minutes and insulate the young guys, not one less.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Jenner is a great player, but Ritchie might be the Avs answer to their 2C woes as soon as next year.

Ritchie should pretty much be untouchable at this point. Those three ELC years will also be huge for the Avs upcoming cap situation.

I just don’t think there’s a trade here and would rather see the Avs push for someone like Brock Nelson instead.

No disrespect to Avs fans.... But you should give it a full season before annointing Ritchie the next-one. Believing he could occupy the 2C next season is so Newhook-ish.

 

[Double Dion]

No disrespect to Avs fans.... But you should give it a full season before annointing Ritchie the next-one. Believing he could occupy the 2C next season is so Newhook-ish.

Ritchie is a 2nd line forward I think moving forward, but not next year. It's also not a certainty he even plays C at the next level. He's certainly no where close to being defensively responsible even at the AHL level. He's below average defensively in junior. He'd get caved as a 2C in the NHL next year. No NHL GM is dumb enough to plan to start him there, especially one like Sakic who played the position and is a smart dude.

The Avs should look at Kadri or Henrique. Kadri for Johansen and a 2nd would be a good move for them. Henrique for a 1st even though he's not worth that normally too.

 

[Freaky Styley]

The center market is completely void of anything in free agency. It's leading to absurd prices right now. Lindholm will get 9M per in the offseason. Monahan and Henrique will be over 4M for players who just fill a 3C spot with nothing special.

While Ritchie + 1st is an overpay for Jenner, how do the Jackets replace him? They need at least 1 or 2 more forwards who can play hard minutes and insulate the young guys, not one less.

Theoretically I think this triggers each team to complete other trades in the offseason. This signals a re-tool for the Jackets (perhaps also after a management change?) that would also see someone like Provorov moved. He could recoup a forward to insulate the youngsters.

The Avs would also probably trade a guy like Girard to recoup a future asset or 2 to help with that loss.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Jenner is a great player, but Ritchie might be the Avs answer to their 2C woes as soon as next year.

Ritchie should pretty much be untouchable at this point. Those three ELC years will also be huge for the Avs upcoming cap situation.

I just don’t think there’s a trade here and would rather see the Avs push for someone like Brock Nelson instead.

I'm a Ritchie fan, I wanted Seattle to take him at 21. But I think you'll be disappointed if you're expecting him to go from junior to being an effective NHL 2C as soon as next year. 2 years out would be a blessing.

 

[Viqsi]

Theoretically I think this triggers each team to complete other trades in the offseason. This signals a re-tool for the Jackets (perhaps also after a management change?) that would also see someone like Provorov moved. He could recoup a forward to insulate the youngsters.

The Avs would also probably trade a guy like Girard to recoup a future asset or 2 to help with that loss.

The bolded is unlikely because there's a minimum quality level necessary and, frankly, those guys are in such high demand nowadays that it'd be unreasonably expensive - the potential market isn't just teams rebuilding and needing veteran help but also teams trying to compete and needing that extra push. That really drives up the price.

 

[The Abusement Park]

No disrespect to Avs fans.... But you should give it a full season before annointing Ritchie the next-one. Believing he could occupy the 2C next season is so Newhook-ish.

Or Jost-ish. Or Compher-ish. Or Kerfoot-ish....

 

[bleuetbio]

if you throw 1st AND Ritchie, better having a great center in the mix

 

[stevo61]

You can say this all you want. You aren't management and nothing you say has any impact on what they do.


We(Avs fans) have it on good authority that Jenner to the Avs is a real possibility, that Jenner is aware of the Avs interest in him, and that he would waive his NTC to come to Colorado.


So yeah, keep saying whatever you want. Ultimately it doesn't matter what you want/think for the team.

You know Colorado is interested, thats 1 thing. Doesnt have to mean Columbus is interested in trading the player

 

[Double Dion]

You can say this all you want. You aren't management and nothing you say has any impact on what they do.


We(Avs fans) have it on good authority that Jenner to the Avs is a real possibility, that Jenner is aware of the Avs interest in him, and that he would waive his NTC to come to Colorado.


So yeah, keep saying whatever you want. Ultimately it doesn't matter what you want/think for the team.

This is true, but these boards are kind of a fanager type of experience. I don't think the Jackets should trade Jenner. I also don't think the Avs should part with Ritchie and a 1st for him. The Jackets would then have exactly 0 2 way veteran forwards. They need more of them, not less. If you wanted one of Provorov or Severson I'd imagine that would be a productive conversation.

 

[MarchessaultCantRead]

No disrespect to Avs fans.... But you should give it a full season before annointing Ritchie the next-one. Believing he could occupy the 2C next season is so Newhook-ish.

Obviously, I think it’s probably unlikely that he does next year, but it’s not completely out of the realm of possibilities.

Also, I don’t think there’s a better situation to insulate a rookie 2C next year than on the Avs. Having a combination of Val, Lehkonen, and potentially Landy as his wingers would take a tremendous amount of pressure off him and they would do all the dirty work on his line.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

You know Colorado is interested, thats 1 thing. Doesnt have to mean Columbus is interested in trading the player

We know more than that.

 

[stevo61]

We know more than that.

Enlighten us to all these special conversations. I dont doubt Colorado wants Jenner, would be a smart move on a good bang for your buck contract. But Id like to hear where Columbus stands in all this, seems like a pretty important part of the whole equation. Basically the most important part

 

[Cypher]

Not saying the value isnt there but Columbus cant just ice a team of kids and expect good things

As opposed to all the good things they've been doing the past months/years/decades?

 

[lionsDen]

At this point I want to answer "No" forcefully enough that y'all will finally be deterred and just leave us alone. We need our veteran mentors who Play The Right Way for the existing kids far, far more than we need even more kids - and no, that doesn't mean that one should start throwing in any 32+ year old thirteenth forwards and seventh defenseman to "make it even".

Let’s be fair here, assume he’s up for sale. That’s kind of what this sub forum is about? Having said that anyone who knows anything about c-bus knows he’s not available