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Proposal: Boeser to NY Rangers (proposal)

jay from jersey

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UnleashRasmus said:
My guess is a dial tone on the other end. Kravstov has no real value in the market. Schneider is a nice piece, but isn't good enough for Boeser let alone adding Rathbone.
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Rangers wouldn’t do the deal. Not to add another high priced wing and not dealing Schneider. I think If Van trade Boeser, it will be for someone more established already. A young D whose got 1-2 years NHL time under his belt already.
But your Absolutely wrong on Kravtsov though. Especially how he’s been playing and how PoolParty in EDM has come back and played after going thru a similar situation.
15 teams had interest in acquiring him last I heard.
What everyone knows is his value is def lower now since he was picked 9OA because of everything that’s gone on and him publicly asking for a trade.
If they deal him 1 for 1, the rangers likely lose out on the deal. My guess, he’ll be used as a sweetener piece in a larger package deal where he’s not the main piece.
Many teams would love a big fast skilled RW that can score and has years of ELC/cheap control years left. Especially at a discount.
If I’m OTT, SEA, ARI, etc there are a bunch of others that would look very smart giving him a top 6 role.
If he wasn’t such a douche and just reported for his conditioning stint in Hartford, he’d probably be playing top 6 min with NYR right now.
Apparently, he’s allergic the the AHL.
 
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zcaptain

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McJedi said:
I don’t know. That seems to be harder than ever. To move cap. Was definitely easier a few years ago. Vancouver did it successfully for OEL and Garland. And that GM has already lost his job and the team he built for this season is terrible. Not exactly an endorsement for taking on the type of trade, cap hit and risk Benning did to make that deal.
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While I don't disagree with you about cap being harder to move, both OEL and Garland have been great.

Benning lost his job because he refused to terminate Travis Green, and his system was not working.........

The new coach Bruce Boudeau is 6 and 0, and the players are playing much better. Does it last? Who knows

Myers takes a lot of hits, and does make the odd bo bo, but he also makes the odd great play too............

Stats don't tell everything, but the coach had him play 28+ minutes the other game..............he did well!
 

zcaptain

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McJedi said:
I’d do that deal as the NYR. Boeser is a big time scorer and would look nasty on their PP with Fox and others.

what I don’t know, because I’m not a fan of the NYR is their cap situation. But I can surmise this type of trade would probably create big cap issues that make it infeasible. Or would require NYR to shed salary elsewhere.

Like that Buchnevch trade to St Louis the Rangers so clearly lost. So it’s potentially impractical for NYRs to win this trade for Boeser if it demands NYR lose another trade they’d be required to make in order to fit his current and future cap hits.

totally unrelated but as an Avs fan that’s now watched several NYR games. Chris Krieder is really underrated and under the radar. That guy is quite impressive shift to shift.

Unfortunately, I’m equally as underwhelmed by LaF. He was a hot mess in the NYR game in Colorado. Made several bad plays, bad reads and lost too many puck battles. Based just on that game, he’s still an AHL level player that needs some seasoning. He was out of his depth in that game.
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Thanks for the great response.........and I agree about cap

which is an entirely different argument than what NYR fans are making

personally, them trading for Miller makes more sense, because we can carry cap for them.

But, each to their own
 
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zcaptain

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Nucklehead Supreme said:
Yes, yes it was, holy hell, how are there still people that believe this, it is the honeymoon period right now, we will come back down to earth and our borderline AHL blueline will be exposed.

Also it has been stated over and over again on multiple news outlets that the system Travis ran was not only his decision it was also the higher up's making that call too, which yes makes it Benning's fault too.

The defense needs a bit of work :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:, understatement of the century.
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Nuklehead

Your comment is not specific enough.............Hughes and OEL are above average dmen, so specifically, it is the RHD that needs the work, which is what most have been saying.

In saying that 5 goals against in the last 4 games, isn't that bad, regardless of Demko standing on his head. The improved Offense keeps the puck 180 ft away, which happens on most good teams, so "IF" the Canucks can move things around and get that RHD they need it pushes Myers down the depth chart and really improves the defense.

Myers has been playing great, as his 28+ minute game the other night points out...............not great, but decent

Any hockey fan could and did see that...........not totally disagreeing, but be careful to point out exactly what the problem is
 

bernmeister

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McJedi said:
I don’t know. That seems to be harder than ever. To move cap. Was definitely easier a few years ago. Vancouver did it successfully for OEL and Garland. And that GM has already lost his job and the team he built for this season is terrible. Not exactly an endorsement for taking on the type of trade, cap hit and risk Benning did to make that deal.
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correct and it is not only harder than ever, moves have costs and consequences.

AND\
long term contract adds require a reasonable expectation you cn juggle cap in future years

NY can NOT afford anything for next 2 years unless Trouba does us a favor
 
One Winged Angel

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Schneider seems way overrated to get any of Canucks big 5: Miller, Horvat, Petersson, Boeser and Hughes. Those are Canucks young core players which JR will build around and I see them more valuable to the team vs. Schneider. Then we have Garland, Hoglander, Podkolzin etc. I dont know why all the proposals are targeting our core players. I dont see them being moved .
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I don’t see any of those 5 Canucks being moved either, but more than likely, the Rangers aren’t moving Schneider for anything less.

I don’t see where a deal is made here.
 

FireBenning

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zcaptain said:
Ok, let's recognize that fact that everyone wants something for nothing, and that every bodies players are better than everyone else's.

Now, for the proposal.

Boeser and Rathbone

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Schneider and Kravtsov

So, onto cap issues involved in the trade. Let's just simply say, that Cap and players can be moved to make it work. We all know it and it has been proven time and time again.
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Better Chance we see Miller moved, but even that I doubt. He's too much of a leader and still is only 28. JR will talk to him and see what his plans are, if he wants to stay, what he thinks he needs money wise to stay, then make the decision.
Miller/Rathbone (Fox's partner in college and they lit it up so there is massive chemistry)
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Schnieder and Kakko (have to give to get, and Kakko has not lived up to his draft position) and a second.

I don't see Kravstov having much value. He is done with the Rangers, may have some attitude issues (clearly), and has never played in the NHL.

Schneider, while a high value prospect has also never played in the NHL. As such, the Canucks will want some 'certainty' back. That certainty is Kakko. He has upside but he could also end up being at best a 2/3w but at least he's proven to be able to be an NHL player.

NHL player (young) + high value prospect + first or second.
 
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FireBenning said:
Better Chance we see Miller moved, but even that I doubt. He's too much of a leader and still is only 28. JR will talk to him and see what his plans are, if he wants to stay, what he thinks he needs money wise to stay, then make the decision.
Miller/Rathbone (Fox's partner in college and they lit it up so there is massive chemistry)
for
Schnieder and Kakko (have to give to get, and Kakko has not lived up to his draft position) and a second.

I don't see Kravstov having much value. He is done with the Rangers, may have some attitude issues (clearly), and has never played in the NHL.

Schneider, while a high value prospect has also never played in the NHL. As such, the Canucks will want some 'certainty' back. That certainty is Kakko. He has upside but he could also end up being at best a 2/3w but at least he's proven to be able to be an NHL player.

NHL player (young) + high value prospect + first or second.
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you sure about this?
 

Flan the incredible

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Comical they trade Buch for a 2nd and a 3rd liner and now they are going to trade multiple former 1st round picks for a player they would have to give a bigger contract too. Some of these proposals are insane.
 
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Boeser would be perfect for what Calgary is looking for. Probably charge us an arm and a leg though.
 
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