Proposal: Boeser to NY Rangers (proposal)

[zcaptain]

If people are going to make proposals for Schneider it can't be for a player making a significant cap hit.

As I said in the original post

If teams want a player, they will move cap to make it happen

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Absolute garbage.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

The only Way I see this working is at the deadline with a third team involved. Vancouver sends Boeser to playoff team. That team sends Blue chip Center prospect to the Rangers and a 1st to the the Canucks and the New York sends Schneider and and a second to Vancouver.
But I’m terrible at trade proposals so take this deal with a grain of salt.

 

[jackjohnson]

Ok, let's recognize that fact that everyone wants something for nothing, and that every bodies players are better than everyone else's.

Now, for the proposal.

Boeser and Rathbone

for

Schneider and Kravtsov

So, onto cap issues involved in the trade. Let's just simply say, that Cap and players can be moved to make it work. We all know it and it has been proven time and time again.

How about NO!!!

 

[jackjohnson]

The only Way I see this working is at the deadline with a third team involved. Vancouver sends Boeser to playoff team. That team sends Blue chip Center prospect to the Rangers and a 1st to the the Canucks and the New York sends Schneider and and a second to Vancouver.
But I’m terrible at trade proposals so take this deal with a grain of salt.

No, the way Boeser is playing Canucks would be dumb to trade him. Trade a young 30 goal scorer for unknowns? He has 5 goals in last 6 games now I think.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

No, the way Boeser is playing Canucks would be dumb to trade him. Trade a young 30 goal scorer for unknowns? He has 5 goals in last 6 games now I think.

Your probably right.

 

[jackjohnson]

If people are going to make proposals for Schneider it can't be for a player making a significant cap hit.

There is No way you trade schneider and get a bonafide young 30 goal scorer. His true potential is being shown under Bruce and he got 25 goals last year under green. I think Canucks fans are really underrating Boeser right now.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

There is No way you trade schneider and get a bonafide young 30 goal scorer. His true potential is being shown under Bruce and he got 25 goals last year under green. I think Canucks fans are really underrating Boeser right now.

Big time

 

[pld459666]

The only deal I envision Schneider being available for (with Canucks) is in a package for Pettersson.

Other than that, hes a non-starter

 

[Flan the incredible]

As I said in the original post

If teams want a player, they will move cap to make it happen

And your comment shows you do not know or understand the Rangers cap situation. All their big contracts have NMC's. They need to sign a 2C in the offseason (probably Strome). Besides that they only have 3 guys in Lindgren, Goodrow and Chytil who could be traded that are not on an ELC.

So my ccomment stands if anyone wants to create a proposal that want be trashed by Rangers fans it can't have significant salary coming back.

 

[Flan the incredible]

There is No way you trade schneider and get a bonafide young 30 goal scorer. His true potential is being shown under Bruce and he got 25 goals last year under green. I think Canucks fans are really underrating Boeser right now.

There is no way Rangers can fit him in under the cap.

 

[jackjohnson]

The only deal I envision Schneider being available for (with Canucks) is in a package for Pettersson.

Other than that, hes a non-starter

Schneider seems way overrated to get any of Canucks big 5: Miller, Horvat, Petersson, Boeser and Hughes. Those are Canucks young core players which JR will build around and I see them more valuable to the team vs. Schneider. Then we have Garland, Hoglander, Podkolzin etc. I dont know why all the proposals are targeting our core players. I dont see them being moved .

 

[jackjohnson]

And your comment shows you do not know or understand the Rangers cap situation. All their big contracts have NMC's. They need to sign a 2C in the offseason (probably Strome). Besides that they only have 3 guys in Lindgren, Goodrow and Chytil who could be traded that are not on an ELC.

So my ccomment stands if anyone wants to create a proposal that want be trashed by Rangers fans it can't have significant salary coming back.

Rangers and Canucks dont make good trade partners.

 

[pld459666]

Schneider seems way overrated to get any of Canucks big 5: Miller, Horvat, Petersson, Boeser and Hughes. Those are Canucks young core players which JR will build around and I see them more valuable to the team vs. Schneider. Then we have Garland, Hoglander, Podkolzin etc. I dont know why all the proposals are targeting our core players. I dont see them being moved .

That is both expected, understandable and if a deal can't be done, then we both keep our assets and part as friends.

No harm, no foul

 

[GAGLine]

Ok, let's recognize that fact that everyone wants something for nothing, and that every bodies players are better than everyone else's.

Now, for the proposal.

Boeser and Rathbone

for

Schneider and Kravtsov

So, onto cap issues involved in the trade. Let's just simply say, that Cap and players can be moved to make it work. We all know it and it has been proven time and time again.

In other words, let's just ignore the fact that Boeser is a pending RFA that the Rangers can't afford to re-sign without moving other contracts, which will be difficult to do and may not ultimately result in an improved team.

And what is with the full court press lately by Vancouver and Winnipeg fans to get Schneider? We aren't trading him.

We don't need or want Rathbone, so you can leave him out of any Ranger proposals.

 

[GAGLine]

Rangers fans seem to think Trouba is going to either become a 8m 3rd pairing guy, or someone will be willing to take on that contract in a year or two.
They also don't think that a top 3 team in the league is close to going deep enough in the playoff to sell futures.

If you are going to characterize Ranger fans' arguments, at least get them right.

Trouba is playing the best hockey of his career this year. The reason Ranger fans suggest that Trouba will be traded in a few years is because we have Schneider. If Schneider can become what Trouba is today, then it's just smart business to trade Trouba and use that cap space elsewhere. Trouba has 2 more years on his NMC, after which he has 2 years with a 15 team no trade list. By then, the players' debt should be paid off, or very close to it, and the cap will go up significantly. As long as Trouba is still playing at this level, and there's no reason to think he won't since he's only 27, he will absolutely be tradeable.

As far as being a top 3 team and selling futures, no one is saying we won't do that. But that doesn't mean giving up our best futures or trading for players we can't afford to re-sign. More than likely we are looking at rentals, probably ones on the cheaper side. We aren't going all in. This team is being built to contend for more than 1 year. And despite our record, we have some major flaws that will likely kill us in the playoffs. Flaws that won't be fixed by adding Boeser and then gutting our team to re-sign him.

 

[GAGLine]

Schneider seems way overrated to get any of Canucks big 5: Miller, Horvat, Petersson, Boeser and Hughes. Those are Canucks young core players which JR will build around and I see them more valuable to the team vs. Schneider. Then we have Garland, Hoglander, Podkolzin etc. I dont know why all the proposals are targeting our core players. I dont see them being moved .

It ain't Ranger fans making these proposals.

 

[Flan the incredible]

Rangers and Canucks dont make good trade partners.

You are correct. If the Rangers moved Schneider it would probably for a similar center prospect on an ELC. I dont see it happening.

 

[Groo]

You are correct. If the Rangers moved Schneider it would probably for a similar center prospect on an ELC. I dont see it happening.

Such as?

 

[Flan the incredible]

Such as?

No examples i am just saying what it would take for the Rangers to listen due to that being their weakest position prospect wise.

Again I dont see him being moved.

 

[bernmeister]

Ok, let's recognize that fact that everyone wants something for nothing, and that every bodies players are better than everyone else's.

Now, for the proposal.

Boeser and Rathbone

for

Schneider and Kravtsov

So, onto cap issues involved in the trade. Let's just simply say, that Cap and players can be moved to make it work. We all know it and it has been proven time and time again.

underline is wrong
1. still have to be able to make such moves
2. they come with a cost

Rangers fans seem to think Trouba is going to either become a 8m 3rd pairing guy, or someone will be willing to take on that contract in a year or two.
They also don't think that a top 3 team in the league is close to going deep enough in the playoff to sell futures.

As for Canucks fans interest in him, he is looking like an ideal future RHD for Hughes. He could also Crack bottom pairing as early as next season.

Rangers also have lundkvist on the right-side, so Canucks fans see Schneider as a piece the Rangers could use to upgrade for this, and possibly, next year's playoffs.

Personally, I see it just as likely they trade Schneider as keep him at this point. Many GMs will be trading futures with the team the Rangers have to make it better.

he will be moved
even if wem retain
which may/may not be nec

As I said in the original post

If teams want a player, they will move cap to make it happen

WRONG

And your comment shows you do not know or understand the Rangers cap situation. All their big contracts have NMC's. They need to sign a 2C in the offseason (probably Strome). Besides that they only have 3 guys in Lindgren, Goodrow and Chytil who could be traded that are not on an ELC.

So my ccomment stands if anyone wants to create a proposal that want be trashed by Rangers fans it can't have significant salary coming back.

this^

 

[Kupo]

As I said in the original post

If teams want a player, they will move cap to make it happen

Rangers would need to move Kreider or Trouba. Kreider and Trouba have a full NMC for another two whole seasons after this year.

Which team(s) are they waiving their NMC for, that can afford their salary and cap hit while giving up the necessary assets in a trade?

Figure that shit out first before creating a dumb proposal.

 

[innitfam]

Not enough coming from NYR

 

[BCNate]

Schneider seems way overrated to get any of Canucks big 5: Miller, Horvat, Petersson, Boeser and Hughes. Those are Canucks young core players which JR will build around and I see them more valuable to the team vs. Schneider. Then we have Garland, Hoglander, Podkolzin etc. I dont know why all the proposals are targeting our core players. I dont see them being moved .

Our core was pretty broken until the coaching change. If things didn't turn around after the front office overhaul, there would have been some big roster changes next. I agree with you though, it's very unlikely that the Canucks deal a core piece now that they have found their game. 8 wins in 9 games is a small sample, but its the overall changes in style of play and systems that leads me to believe that even when we cool down a bit we will be a vastly improved team.

 

[Canucks LB]

With every game, the boeser trade ship is sailing