Blues Trade Proposals Part 4

[Robb_K]

That's all I carry since I work where the Ghetto starts in Midtown

D'Ags will be moved at the deadline for whatever they can get for him, and it won't be much.

Any other deals? C'mon, patience! LOL That will depend on how bubble teams play in the next 2 weeks. Then we will know for sure on who is buying or selling.

I don't think so. Getting a 4th rounder doesn't help as much as having him around for depth during the playoffs, in case the whole team has the flu, or several forwards get hurt at the same time. Now, if he were to bring a 3rd Rounder, The Blues might grab it.

 

[ManyIdeas]

Highly doubt it.

 

[ExJbeck]

I was wondering if you guys think the Blues could be interested in him, and what they would be willing to give up if they were

No, but this should go into trade thread.

 

[542365]

I think his salary is a little steep for the Blues. We have a lot of guys that are going to get raises in the summer(Petro, Shattenkirk, Stewart etc.) and we already have a surplus of wingers as it is, with a couple of prospects that should be in St. Louis sooner rather than later in Jaskin and Rattie. He's a great player, but for a team on a budget that's preparing for major raises, it just wouldn't work.

 

[Lord Helix]

He makes too much, Hitch would eat him alive, and there's no way the Blues should give up what it'll take to get him.

 

[Alklha]

Nope. Too much money, too little effort and we have Oshie, Stewart and Tarasenko on RW.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Way too much money, and we are stacked on the right wing.

 

[Novacain]

I don't think so. Getting a 4th rounder doesn't help as much as having him around for depth during the playoffs, in case the whole team has the flu, or several forwards get hurt at the same time. Now, if he were to bring a 3rd Rounder, The Blues might grab it.

I'd say Porter or Cracknell can do the same job. Actually, a better job.

 

[BlueDream]

IF (and this may be a big if) they do acquire a defenseman with a decent cap (or any other player I guess) it would make some sense to throw D'Agostini in the deal to clear some salary. If they are such a tight-budget team then Armstrong insisting he only wants to move picks is interesting.

 

[bleedblue1223]

So I decided to actually look up the report on Stewart, and I have lost all respect for Dreger. He literally just looked up Strickland's twitter page and regurgitated random speculation.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Kulda is going back to Winnipeg, so Hainsey or Stuart will most likely be traded. If we strike out on a bigger name, at least there are some decent rentals out there.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

Nah, unless the Blues acquire another forward (maybe a depth center) I think they'll just keep D'Agostini as an insurance policy. He's not a terrible player, but just not good enough to win a way into the line-up. But he could play on a scoring line in the playoffs in a pinch.

 

[Blue Goose]

Kulda is going back to Winnipeg, so Hainsey or Stuart will most likely be traded. If we strike out on a bigger name, at least there are some decent rentals out there.

As much as I'd love him in STL, it's hard to see them trading Stuart. Hainsey, on the other hand, should start packing his bags now...

 

[Robb_K]

Nah, unless the Blues acquire another forward (maybe a depth center) I think they'll just keep D'Agostini as an insurance policy. He's not a terrible player, but just not good enough to win a way into the line-up. But he could play on a scoring line in the playoffs in a pinch.

This is why they'll keep him unless they are offered a 3rd Rounder or better for him.

 

[PocketNines]

D'Agostini is more valuable as a postseason injury replacement than returning a middling draft pick. Only goes if he's not the main piece in the deal.

 

[bluemandan]

What about something around Matt D'Agostini and Ron Hainsey at the deadline?

 

[HockeyGuy73]

No, but this should go into trade thread.

You are right, and thats one of the things I dont like about this board. Everything gets clumped into one thread, and lots of thoughts and ideas get lost because people cant check in every few hours.

Anyway, because of reasons mentioned already, I hope we have no interest. Besides, we have a few d-men that need to get locked up for a while, and we dont have the Rangers budget.

 

[Alklha]

What about something around Matt D'Agostini and Ron Hainsey at the deadline?

D'Agostini would be a throw in really. The demand for defense at the deadline looks like it is going to be crazy, and D'Agostini's value is really low just now.

 

[Hooliganx3]

Contract is way to high and RW is a position of strength. I pretty much like everyone of our right wings better then Gaborik even if Gaborik is the better point producer. Maybe it's just the homer in me but I wouldn't trade Tarasenko, Oshie, or Stewart 1 for 1 for Gaborik.

 

[Hooliganx3]

I think the most important thing with Stewart is that he finally has an excellent coach to teach him about the nuances of the game. Playing away away from the puck. Playing in a detailed system. How competing creates offense. Unlike Andy Murray, Hitch has a Stanley Cup Ring and an Olympic Gold Medal to back up his words. Stewart's story about being the anti-Jonathan Toews and not taking hockey seriously until later in life is well known. I'm sure he never had to play anything remotely akin to a structured game in his formative years because he was such a physical specimen. And then from 2007 - February of 2011 the only two professional coaches he ever knew were Tony Granato and Joe Sacco, two of the worst NHL coaches in the last decade.

So I think fans last year and earlier this year had every right to question whether Stewart could play in Hitchcock's system. I made a post as recently as Feb 28th after the Hawks game I went to saying how brutal he looked. But I also think in hindsight (and reading Dan O'Neil's nice article today), it was unrealistic to think the Stewart/Hitchcock dynamic wasn't going to take a good deal of time to gel.

Rumrokh the other day made a good post in comparing Halak and Allen when he said Jaro looks like he stops pucks and Allen looks a goaltender. I think the same is becoming true for Stewart who is starting to look like a hockey player and not someone who just plays hockey. He will never be the smartest player on the ice, but all his shifts lately have a sense of purpose which is the biggest 180 from his game last year when he was aimless on the ice. I think a huge part of that is just good ole fashioned coaching. And props to Stewball for taking Hitch's message to heart.

As much as I question and am harder on Hitchcock then almost anyone here. I really do think Hitchcock is the best thing to happen to Stewart. I think Stewarts current success has so much to do with Hitchcock demanding so much out of him. I don't know if Stewart could have had a better coach to help him become the player he is then Hitchcock.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

You are right, and thats one of the things I dont like about this board. Everything gets clumped into one thread, and lots of thoughts and ideas get lost because people cant check in every few hours.

Anyway, because of reasons mentioned already, I hope we have no interest. Besides, we have a few d-men that need to get locked up for a while, and we dont have the Rangers budget.

Yeah, but it also gets old having repetitive threads with the same topic. Frankly, you can make a case for all the trade discussion belonging in the Trade Forum. I think its just a courtesy that the Blues have a trade thread at all.

 

[Alklha]

You are right, and thats one of the things I dont like about this board. Everything gets clumped into one thread, and lots of thoughts and ideas get lost because people cant check in every few hours.

I think you are right when it comes to the big market teams, things can get lost really easily in their mammoth threads. Around here it isn't really such an issue!

 

[Blue Goose]

D'Agostini is more valuable as a postseason injury replacement than returning a middling draft pick. Only goes if he's not the main piece in the deal.

I agree to some extent, only because I think his optimum value would be a 2nd round pick, and those mean so little to us at this point. My hope is that Dags would be traded for a depth roster player, either on defense (ie. Tallinder, if he was healthy) or a proper bottom-6 forward (like a Mike Rupp-type or Erik Condra, for example)

What about something around Matt D'Agostini and Ron Hainsey at the deadline?

Saw this on another thread. It's a weird scenario in which each player would address a need for the other team: we could get picks for Dags, and we can also send picks to get Hainsey - why not trade them for each other, since the value is virtually the same? Could make sense, but I'd hate to lose a roster player for a "rental".

D'Agostini would be a throw in really. The demand for defense at the deadline looks like it is going to be crazy, and D'Agostini's value is really low just now.

My hope was that if we did make a deal with WPG involving Dags-for-Hainsey, maybe see if they can throw in a pick, so that we'd at least have something when Hainsey walks this summer.

 

[The Note]

Way too much money, and we are stacked on the right wing.

This about sums it up I think. If we're adding a player it should be a LD or Center (as has been said who knows how many times now)

 

[Lord Helix]

Possible center targets I have in mind are Pavelski, Filppula, Ribeiro, Anisimov, Little, and Burmistrov. All would have different asking prices, but nothing too unreasonable.