Blues Trade Proposals 2020-21 - Part II

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bleedblue1223

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If Army on any level wants to make a strong run at Hall in the summer, I hope he trades for him, so we can get a good preview to see if he actually fits. Hoffman not working out is no big deal because of the discount we got on him, but if Hall doesn't work on a multi-year deal, then that's trouble.
 

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I think Mikkola is going to surprise people once he gets a full time opportunity. Probably next year after Seattle takes Dunn.
Unless he drastically changes the way he handles the puck, I don't see him becoming anything more than a 7th defenseman. Skates well, big body, decent offensive instincts, but he just can't handle the puck well enough to justify playing over someone like Walman, Perunovich, or Dunn, which is saying a lot.
 
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Just to summarize JR’s article for those of you who aren’t subscribed, he says teams have checked in on Schwartz’s availability but he doesn’t believe he will be traded because both sides have interest in an extension. He doubts Bozak is moved either at this point.

He says Hoffman and Dunn could be on the way out and we would try to replace them with other players that need a change of scenery. He says we want Oleksiak but it’s unknown if Dallas will part with him. Carolina is interested in Dunn and has been for a while.
 
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Just to summarize JR’s article for those of you who aren’t subscribed, he says teams have checked in on Schwartz’s availability but he doesn’t believe he will be traded because both sides have interest in an extension. He doubts Bozak is moved either at this point.

He says Hoffman and Dunn could be on the way out and we would try to replace them with other players that need a change of scenery. He says we want Oleksiak but it’s unknown if Dallas will part with him. Carolina is interested in Dunn and has been for a while.
So basically he read all of the HFBlues threads and reported the same things we've been discussing with about the same level of certainty of it all happening.
 

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I see your point. I was just pointing out the logjam of small and smallish offensive defensemen on the left side. Yes, you are right. Of course Perunovich has more value than Mikkola. My idea was not so much to substitute Perunovich to save Mikkola, but rather as Perunovich has more value, offering him in a trade for Hall might save us a 1st, or perhaps get Buffalo to retain more on Hall, or even get us a small add. As we have a number of LD's in the same age bracket who possess a similar skill set to Perunovich, his loss may be more easily absorbed. I should have been more clear, my bad.
I see what you mean, no worries. I just misunderstood you and was really confused at the seeming suggestion of trading Perunovich to keep Mikkola. As you say, Perunovich definitely has more value than Mikkola in a trade...it could make sense to offer a more valuable prospect to avoid giving up a 1st. Personally tho, I'd like to hold on to him and see how he develops. This is probably all not going to happen anyway, I kind of doubt we are trading either Mikkola or Perunovich.

Watching Parayko play with Walman has been interesting. Obviously it's a small sample, but they have looked really good together IMO. It's made me think more about what type of partner Parayko can excel with. Not saying Perunovich is the guy (or Walman for that matter), but I don't think Parayko necessarily needs to play with a big defensive d partner in order for this team to be successful.

I think Mikkola is going to surprise people once he gets a full time opportunity. Probably next year after Seattle takes Dunn.
Ehhh maybe I am being too hard on Mikkola, but he has not looked very good this year IMO. He's only played 20 games this season (25 total for his career), so it would be foolish to write off his NHL potential completely...but nothing I've seen this year has inspired a ton of confidence. Hope you're right tho, it would be huge for the team if he can put it together. He's got the size and physical tools, no doubt.
 
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I will be really relieved when I see a "Confirmed with link" thread. I hope the Blues aren't in on this.
 
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I think Hoffman is gone regardless, but if the Blues made no moves tomorrow I’d be fine with it. The prices are not impressive.
With Hall being traded, the Blues may get more teams circling back to Hoffman as a backup. Hopefully we can turn that into a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Would also like to see us pick up a defensive minded defenseman to play in a shutdown role.
 

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If we can just get to 3 pm today with our 1st, Kostin, and even our 3rd intact, I will be happy.
Was there anyone else on the market that would've demanded a high price? I could see a change of scenery type move with Dunn. I think the Thomas injury sort of kills a Hoffman trade unless Dunn brings a forward.
 
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Was there anyone else on the market that would've demanded a high price? I could see a change of scenery type move with Dunn. I think the Thomas injury sort of kills a Hoffman trade unless Dunn brings a forward.
I don't know. Obviously, Armstrong is all in on the playoffs. Does he really have enough confidence in Walman or Mikkola to deal Dunn? I know I certainly wouldn't.
 

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I don't know. Obviously, Armstrong is all in on the playoffs. Does he really have enough confidence in Walman or Mikkola to deal Dunn? I know I certainly wouldn't.
I think it's more likely we do nothing, and let the boys ride it out. A Dunn trade probably gets most bang for buck around the draft.
 
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