Prospect Info: Blues 2024-2025 Prospect Thread

BlueDream

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Outside of his shot, what gives him top line upside?
I mean, scoring goals is one of the main things that makes someone a top line player so…we can’t just diminish that.

The rhetoric surrounding Snuggerud on this board lately is definitely silly. From what I can tell, it started with one poster watching a game and saying “Snuggerud has 3 assists but I don’t like his effort” and from there, a handful of posters started acting like he’s trade bait.

He’s not getting traded.
 
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I mean, scoring goals is one of the main things that makes someone a top line player so…we can’t just diminish that.

The rhetoric surrounding Snuggerud on this board lately is definitely silly. From what I can tell, it started with one poster watching a game and saying “Snuggerud has 3 assists but I don’t like his effort” and from there, a handful of posters started acting like he’s trade bait.

He’s not getting traded.
I gave my assessment of his game. And have watched quite a few of his games. He’s been better as of late. But we’re fooling ourselves if we don’t admit Snuggy has some serious flaws in his game. His shot is elite and he’s a quality player but there’s plenty of risk there.

I wouldn’t look to trade him to just trade him but I value him quite a bit less than I did a year and a half ago. Still a quality prospect but I think he’s a bit overrated.
 

BlueDream

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I gave my assessment of his game. And have watched quite a few of his games. He’s been better as of late. But we’re fooling ourselves if we don’t admit Snuggy has some serious flaws in his game. His shot is elite and he’s a quality player but there’s plenty of risk there.

I wouldn’t look to trade him to just trade him but I value him quite a bit less than I did a year and a half ago. Still a quality prospect but I think he’s a bit overrated.
Yeah, I’m not saying your assessment was wrong. I didn’t watch that game so I’m not arguing it.

I just thought other people’s reaction to it was a little odd. And you’re a good poster so it’s definitely not a shot at you but I’m not sure any single post from anyone should carry that much sway. Maybe my memory is wrong here but from what I recall this board seemed to be pretty high on him and then that one post changed things. That’s what I noticed.

Hope people realize he still adds elements that we are desperately lacking currently.
 

Celtic Note

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I mean, scoring goals is one of the main things that makes someone a top line player so…we can’t just diminish that.

The rhetoric surrounding Snuggerud on this board lately is definitely silly. From what I can tell, it started with one poster watching a game and saying “Snuggerud has 3 assists but I don’t like his effort” and from there, a handful of posters started acting like he’s trade bait.

He’s not getting traded.
I don’t know if the rhetoric comment is aimed at me, but I will say that the Snuggy hype train around took off early. It got bloated as the excitement around him swelled (understandably). He is certainly talented, but being around exceptional players masked some gaps in his game that became apparent once they left. He, like Neighbours, has a good shot. Snuggy’s is better. But, like Neighbours, he will have to up his playmaking and distribution game in addition to his all around game to get to a level I would classify as top line.
 

PocketNines

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We've been getting reports for near a calendar year that there are some issues we don't want to hear about with this kid, despite an NHL caliber shot.
 

Celtic Note

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Basically they want to build him up enough that when he goes to STL they are planning to never see him again.

And anyone who says they never think of someone moving up to the NHL, they are lying
I just found it odd that those were the quotes selected. Without the context of the article it just sounded like jibberish.
 

PocketNines

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The highlights of Mrsic's game are good. Take note of #7 in blue, that is Jackson Smith for Tri City, potentially available in round 1 where we may draft. These highlights have numerous moments with Mrsic operating up ice and in the offensive zone. He is fast, shifty, gets his shot away. You can see from the highlights how many times he provoked chances, very funny his second goal was such a fluke but he generates flukes because he's so active.

 

PerryTurnbullfan

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The highlights of Mrsic's game are good. Take note of #7 in blue, that is Jackson Smith for Tri City, potentially available in round 1 where we may draft. These highlights have numerous moments with Mrsic operating up ice and in the offensive zone. He is fast, shifty, gets his shot away. You can see from the highlights how many times he provoked chances, very funny his second goal was such a fluke but he generates flukes because he's so active.

I can't say any of them look like NHL goals, but nonetheless they went in...
 

PocketNines

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I can't say any of them look like NHL goals, but nonetheless they went in...
When I watch him he is definitely an aggressive offensive play driver with the puck. He can make a cut skating that forces defenders to be wary. He buzzes around the zone and his name gets called out because he's involved with the puck. 11 goals in 15 games, he knows how to shift and shoot
 

LGB

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Outside of his shot, what gives him top line upside?
The narrative that all he can do is shoot is crazy. I personally think his playmaking is actually a strength, not a weakness. Weird to say with the pitiful assist total last year, but that looks like it will be an outlier. He’s good with the puck in transition, he’s good at finding space without the puck, he’s good at stealing pucks and quickly finding an open teammate to counter, he’s good in front of the net, the list goes on. I’m personally very high on him, but I acknowledge there are posters whose opinions I respect that have cooled on him. That Bonin guy I put no stock in and I feel like he swayed some people.
 

Drubilly

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The narrative that all he can do is shoot is crazy. I personally think his playmaking is actually a strength, not a weakness. Weird to say with the pitiful assist total last year, but that looks like it will be an outlier. He’s good with the puck in transition, he’s good at finding space without the puck, he’s good at stealing pucks and quickly finding an open teammate to counter, he’s good in front of the net, the list goes on. I’m personally very high on him, but I acknowledge there are posters whose opinions I respect that have cooled on him. That Bonin guy I put no stock in and I feel like he swayed some people.
Bonin, what a ham.
 

PocketNines

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I'm still higher on Snuggler than Bolduc. Snuggler we're going to give 2d PP minutes to and shelter him otherwise. And this will work as long as he is not a problem defensively. His game will come along. He is an NHLers kid and he doesn't have a prima donna attitude. If anything he is a team-first guy.

I think he is popping up in potential trades because he's a quality prospect who's not a blue chipper. He fits the profile of legitimate prospect to be put in deal where we are getting the highest quality asset back. I wouldn't read much more into it than that from a trade standpoint. If it means have we cooled that he could be a blue chip prospect, yes it does.
 

Celtic Note

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The narrative that all he can do is shoot is crazy. I personally think his playmaking is actually a strength, not a weakness. Weird to say with the pitiful assist total last year, but that looks like it will be an outlier. He’s good with the puck in transition, he’s good at finding space without the puck, he’s good at stealing pucks and quickly finding an open teammate to counter, he’s good in front of the net, the list goes on. I’m personally very high on him, but I acknowledge there are posters whose opinions I respect that have cooled on him. That Bonin guy I put no stock in and I feel like he swayed some people.
I am not sure I agree with the playmaking as a strength response, but for the other observations I don’t necessarily disagree. I just don’t think any of his skills aside from shooting related ones are 1st line caliber. They may grow to be, but right now they don’t project to be. That doesn’t mean all he can do is shoot. It just means his shot is the only thing at that level. And I am happy his shooting is that high. We need that skill. I just don’t have the expectation that he is a 1st liner lock. I see him more as a second or third line guy, but I would lean toward second line and possibly at the higher end of those guys. I think if all goes right he could be a 1st liner. But he will need big jumps in other areas of his game for that to happen IMO.
 

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